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Omg.

This is what I have been thinking since years. Do they really think the disaster they're creating will NEVER affect them? Seemingly the answer is yes.

Here is another of my theories, that they do not care who they rule over as long as there's someone. But, what I don't get is certain groups that exist in the world are not ever going to accept these people as leaders. I guess they just don't worry about that either.

Of course, now that you have mentioned their use of adoption, I guess "the future" past their own lives means nothing to them.

I get what you mean about chick/dude.
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Omg.

This is what I have been thinking since years. Do they really think the disaster they're creating will NEVER affect them? Seemingly the answer is yes.

Here is another of my theories, that they do not care who they rule over as long as there's someone. But, what I don't get is certain groups that exist in the world are not ever going to accept these people as leaders. I guess they just don't worry about that either.

Of course, now that you have mentioned their use of adoption, I guess "the future" past their own lives means nothing to them.

I get what you mean about chick/dude.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77105205


I think a lot of it, the dumbing down and homogenizing of people in particular, is about making governing easier...more of a one tool does all rather than a complicated symphony.

I've sat in on more of the discussions and engineering "think sessions" than I'd like to admit to, so that's more fact than theory.

And yeah, I argued that one too. We need a symphony to survive as well as progress.

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Repent and eschew evil, sounds like OP has
 Quoting: Furrry Pete


Yep, just without all the pomp and circumstance.


 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft

The pomp and circumstance comes later


1 Samuel 16:7
7 But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.
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Repent and eschew evil, sounds like OP has
 Quoting: Furrry Pete


Yep, just without all the pomp and circumstance.


 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft

The pomp and circumstance comes later


1 Samuel 16:7
7 But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.
 Quoting: Furrry Pete


As much as I understand and recognize the need for religion to maintain a functioning society of people, I'm not as much into the fantasy of a good lord.

While lords (governors of land) may have once been good and had the well being of their people at heart because a cared for slave is loyal and works more reliably; that simply is not the case with the lords of today. Like spoiled children, they expect something for nothing. They may be lords, but they are not good lords.

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Repent and eschew evil, sounds like OP has
 Quoting: Furrry Pete


Yep, just without all the pomp and circumstance.


 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft

The pomp and circumstance comes later


1 Samuel 16:7
7 But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.
 Quoting: Furrry Pete


As much as I understand and recognize the need for religion to maintain a functioning society of people, I'm not as much into the fantasy of a good lord.

While lords (governors of land) may have once been good and had the well being of their people at heart because a cared for slave is loyal and works more reliably; that simply is not the case with the lords of today. Like spoiled children, they expect something for nothing. They may be lords, but they are not good lords.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


owls are known to be able to 'spin' their heads 180 degrees either ways. that's the impression the above gave me, spin.

transparency is not virtue on its own. in some cases it's fuel to the fire.
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Yep, just without all the pomp and circumstance.


 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft

The pomp and circumstance comes later


1 Samuel 16:7
7 But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.
 Quoting: Furrry Pete


As much as I understand and recognize the need for religion to maintain a functioning society of people, I'm not as much into the fantasy of a good lord.

While lords (governors of land) may have once been good and had the well being of their people at heart because a cared for slave is loyal and works more reliably; that simply is not the case with the lords of today. Like spoiled children, they expect something for nothing. They may be lords, but they are not good lords.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


owls are known to be able to 'spin' their heads 180 degrees either ways. that's the impression the above gave me, spin.

transparency is not virtue on its own. in some cases it's fuel to the fire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77631946


What percentage of lies do you require to feel comfortable and keep everything at a certain level of shit, dearest?
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

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The pomp and circumstance comes later


1 Samuel 16:7
7 But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.
 Quoting: Furrry Pete


As much as I understand and recognize the need for religion to maintain a functioning society of people, I'm not as much into the fantasy of a good lord.

While lords (governors of land) may have once been good and had the well being of their people at heart because a cared for slave is loyal and works more reliably; that simply is not the case with the lords of today. Like spoiled children, they expect something for nothing. They may be lords, but they are not good lords.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


owls are known to be able to 'spin' their heads 180 degrees either ways. that's the impression the above gave me, spin.

transparency is not virtue on its own. in some cases it's fuel to the fire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77631946


What percentage of lies do you require to feel comfortable and keep everything at a certain level of shit, dearest?
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


shit, is conflating lords that you align with as any kind of equal to the Lord as in the Bible. play dumb and get burned! no shit! lol
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people have been conditioned for the anti-Christ and there is a bevy of lords ready to cash in! they just don't wish to be high profile about it yet! lol
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As much as I understand and recognize the need for religion to maintain a functioning society of people, I'm not as much into the fantasy of a good lord.

While lords (governors of land) may have once been good and had the well being of their people at heart because a cared for slave is loyal and works more reliably; that simply is not the case with the lords of today. Like spoiled children, they expect something for nothing. They may be lords, but they are not good lords.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


owls are known to be able to 'spin' their heads 180 degrees either ways. that's the impression the above gave me, spin.

transparency is not virtue on its own. in some cases it's fuel to the fire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77631946


What percentage of lies do you require to feel comfortable and keep everything at a certain level of shit, dearest?
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


shit, is conflating lords that you align with as any kind of equal to the Lord as in the Bible. play dumb and get burned! no shit! lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77631946


Who paid to have that bible commissioned?

Was it your sky lord or a king on this planet?

Who made sure they were distributed? Was it the second sons of lords and noblemen (clergy) or was it your man with the golden halo and thunderbolts?

Our relationships with those who own us or seek to own us are relevant, regardless of if you have your head in the clouds so you don't have to see them.

I understand that you need to have that higher belief to be a functioning member of society, but please let the adults have a conversation now and then.
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people have been conditioned for the anti-Christ and there is a bevy of lords ready to cash in! they just don't wish to be high profile about it yet! lol
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perhaps that is where your strategy and their's differ. lol
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owls are known to be able to 'spin' their heads 180 degrees either ways. that's the impression the above gave me, spin.

transparency is not virtue on its own. in some cases it's fuel to the fire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77631946


What percentage of lies do you require to feel comfortable and keep everything at a certain level of shit, dearest?
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


shit, is conflating lords that you align with as any kind of equal to the Lord as in the Bible. play dumb and get burned! no shit! lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77631946


Who paid to have that bible commissioned?

Was it your sky lord or a king on this planet?

Who made sure they were distributed? Was it the second sons of lords and noblemen (clergy) or was it your man with the golden halo and thunderbolts?

Our relationships with those who own us or seek to own us are relevant, regardless of if you have your head in the clouds so you don't have to see them.

I understand that you need to have that higher belief to be a functioning member of society, but please let the adults have a conversation now and then.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


you believe in aura 'halos'. you believe in metaphysical mysteries when they are wrapped in the cloak you wish.

the bible was never commissioned that's you spreading falsehood to defend your involvement, in a multitude of dictates that you claimed to have opposed. a story that cannot be verified or denied as for reliability. I don't particularity see a reason to give you the benefit of the doubt! lol
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Who paid to have that bible commissioned?

Was it your sky lord or a king on this planet?

Who made sure they were distributed? Was it the second sons of lords and noblemen (clergy) or was it your man with the golden halo and thunderbolts?

Our relationships with those who own us or seek to own us are relevant, regardless of if you have your head in the clouds so you don't have to see them.

I understand that you need to have that higher belief to be a functioning member of society, but please let the adults have a conversation now and then.
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Non-believers are the only adults?

Get your nose out of the air

The Old Testament existed far before the "Bible" did, with a silver amulet dating to the 6th century BC being the oldest known recorded verses of Numbers 6:24-26.

The manuscripts used for the New Testament are dated to as early as 55 AD (Paul's letters), 200+ years before the first actual Bible.

AD 96 Clement Bishop of Rome quotes / refers to 11 books used for the New Testament including Matthew, Mark and Luke.

AD 108 Ignatius Bishop of Antioch quotes / refers to 24 books used for the New Testament including all 4 Gospels.

AD 110 Polycarp Bishop of Smyrna quotes / refers to 18 books used for the New Testament including all 4 Gospels.

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Omg.

This is what I have been thinking since years. Do they really think the disaster they're creating will NEVER affect them? Seemingly the answer is yes.

Here is another of my theories, that they do not care who they rule over as long as there's someone. But, what I don't get is certain groups that exist in the world are not ever going to accept these people as leaders. I guess they just don't worry about that either.

Of course, now that you have mentioned their use of adoption, I guess "the future" past their own lives means nothing to them.

I get what you mean about chick/dude.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77105205


I think a lot of it, the dumbing down and homogenizing of people in particular, is about making governing easier...more of a one tool does all rather than a complicated symphony.

I've sat in on more of the discussions and engineering "think sessions" than I'd like to admit to, so that's more fact than theory.

And yeah, I argued that one too. We need a symphony to survive as well as progress.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Do they have some people somewhere they aren't ruining?

Homogenizing... They're using TV world for that, aren't they? (Not just TV, but how everything media spews out the same opinions... Which even I see though I am media avoidant)?

But, they seem into diversity for its on sake. I guess to prevent cohesion outside of TV world.
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Oh, well, and the educational system that is completely ruined at this point.
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Omg.

This is what I have been thinking since years. Do they really think the disaster they're creating will NEVER affect them? Seemingly the answer is yes.

Here is another of my theories, that they do not care who they rule over as long as there's someone. But, what I don't get is certain groups that exist in the world are not ever going to accept these people as leaders. I guess they just don't worry about that either.

Of course, now that you have mentioned their use of adoption, I guess "the future" past their own lives means nothing to them.

I get what you mean about chick/dude.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77105205


I think a lot of it, the dumbing down and homogenizing of people in particular, is about making governing easier...more of a one tool does all rather than a complicated symphony.

I've sat in on more of the discussions and engineering "think sessions" than I'd like to admit to, so that's more fact than theory.

And yeah, I argued that one too. We need a symphony to survive as well as progress.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Do they have some people somewhere they aren't ruining?

Homogenizing... They're using TV world for that, aren't they? (Not just TV, but how everything media spews out the same opinions... Which even I see though I am media avoidant)?

But, they seem into diversity for its on sake. I guess to prevent cohesion outside of TV world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77105205


I'm not privy to everything, but I will say they were into organic farming "before it was cool," so maybe they're trying to keep themselves as the undamaged ones.

Not sure how that's going for anyone. To be honest, even the exclusive organic farm communities were being run by the same idiots with ideals bred in a 1970s science lab run by new age morons with advanced degrees and no common sense.

...These are the same asshats who have been messing with hormones, immune systems, and god knows what else to create "something better" with the end result looking like Frankenstein's health. When ego meets LSD-fueled ideals, science, and major funding, the result is a disaster.

I don't know where the "one of every kind" people collecting came from, but it's definitely a hobby I've seen a few obsess over.
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Omg.

This is what I have been thinking since years. Do they really think the disaster they're creating will NEVER affect them? Seemingly the answer is yes.

Here is another of my theories, that they do not care who they rule over as long as there's someone. But, what I don't get is certain groups that exist in the world are not ever going to accept these people as leaders. I guess they just don't worry about that either.

Of course, now that you have mentioned their use of adoption, I guess "the future" past their own lives means nothing to them.

I get what you mean about chick/dude.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77105205


I think a lot of it, the dumbing down and homogenizing of people in particular, is about making governing easier...more of a one tool does all rather than a complicated symphony.

I've sat in on more of the discussions and engineering "think sessions" than I'd like to admit to, so that's more fact than theory.

And yeah, I argued that one too. We need a symphony to survive as well as progress.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Do they have some people somewhere they aren't ruining?

Homogenizing... They're using TV world for that, aren't they? (Not just TV, but how everything media spews out the same opinions... Which even I see though I am media avoidant)?

But, they seem into diversity for its on sake. I guess to prevent cohesion outside of TV world.
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scripted softball question. 77105205, and tcpoft's writing style and the tone seem similar!

you really should put a pair of glasses on your owl avatar,
it might make your commentary …. nope! nevermind!
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scripted softball question. 77105205, and tcpoft's writing style and the tone seem similar!

you really should put a pair of glasses on your owl avatar,
it might make your commentary …. nope! nevermind!
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So, from the thirty or so bitchy and paranoid comments on this and a couple of my other posts over the past 24 hours, it seems I have your undivided attention.

You believe you've found a TPTB that is low hanging fruit within reach and a perfect level at which to gleefully attack.

I'm assuming this is your five minutes of hate.

I'm going to tell you something. It probably won't change your obsession, but you may as well know who you are attacking.

I was a toddler taken from a war torn area and then illegally adopted. A war orphan, the easiest type of child to disappear on this planet. A ghost.

I was a cash cow for the person who received me.

I was among wealth, but I only benefited from it when my being there would be a benefit to someone else.

So, yes, I did get to see and go places you will never go.

I also had the teeth rotting out of my head while standing in that opulence.

If you think they exploit people harshly from far away, try being an unprotected child within their arm's grasp.

Before you do your schizophrenic dance of glee around me, learn that not everything is as simplistic or clean as they have taught you and millions of others.

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I know a little of your story ms owl
and i won't judge you we all get used and dirty in this
evil world -hugs and love sent your way hf

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scripted softball question. 77105205, and tcpoft's writing style and the tone seem similar!

you really should put a pair of glasses on your owl avatar,
it might make your commentary …. nope! nevermind!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77631946


So, from the thirty or so bitchy and paranoid comments on this and a couple of my other posts over the past 24 hours, it seems I have your undivided attention.

You believe you've found a TPTB that is low hanging fruit within reach and a perfect level at which to gleefully attack.

I'm assuming this is your five minutes of hate.

I'm going to tell you something. It probably won't change your obsession, but you may as well know who you are attacking.

I was a toddler taken from a war torn area and then illegally adopted. A war orphan, the easiest type of child to disappear on this planet. A ghost.

I was a cash cow for the person who received me.

I was among wealth, but I only benefited from it when my being there would be a benefit to someone else.

So, yes, I did get to see and go places you will never go.

I also had the teeth rotting out of my head while standing in that opulence.

If you think they exploit people harshly from far away, try being an unprotected child within their arm's grasp.

Before you do your schizophrenic dance of glee around me, learn that not everything is as simplistic or clean as they have taught you and millions of others.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


she's a victim! lol
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I know a little of your story ms owl
and i won't judge you we all get used and dirty in this
evil world -hugs and love sent your way hf

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hugs thanks
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946, I am a real person. Geez.
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946, I am a real person. Geez.
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Pssst. However they respond to you, it's going to have "lol" at the end. chuckle

I'd put money on it.
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Repent and eschew evil, sounds like OP has
 Quoting: Furrry Pete


Yep, just without all the pomp and circumstance.


 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft

The pomp and circumstance comes later


1 Samuel 16:7
7 But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.
 Quoting: Furrry Pete


As much as I understand and recognize the need for religion to maintain a functioning society of people, I'm not as much into the fantasy of a good lord.

While lords (governors of land) may have once been good and had the well being of their people at heart because a cared for slave is loyal and works more reliably; that simply is not the case with the lords of today. Like spoiled children, they expect something for nothing. They may be lords, but they are not good lords.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


The fantasy is that religion makes a good functioning society, I think looking at society should put the lie to that.
What does the bible say about the Law of religion? We were better off without it.
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Yep, just without all the pomp and circumstance.


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The pomp and circumstance comes later


1 Samuel 16:7
7 But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.
 Quoting: Furrry Pete


As much as I understand and recognize the need for religion to maintain a functioning society of people, I'm not as much into the fantasy of a good lord.

While lords (governors of land) may have once been good and had the well being of their people at heart because a cared for slave is loyal and works more reliably; that simply is not the case with the lords of today. Like spoiled children, they expect something for nothing. They may be lords, but they are not good lords.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


The fantasy is that religion makes a good functioning society, I think looking at society should put the lie to that.
What does the bible say about the Law of religion? We were better off without it.
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Society is already limping along. Religion's a crutch.
I'm not going to kick it out from under them.

But an ideal society... would probably be more transparent about why we should be good to each other, and protective, and put it back in our hands.

Still, mechanically, I don't think enough brains function that way. They genuinely seem to falter without that guy in the sky.

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946, I am a real person. Geez.
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Pssst. However they respond to you, it's going to have "lol" at the end. chuckle

I'd put money on it.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


I'm sure.

It's not like I can prove I'm a person.

Anyway, organic farming...

A tangent, were they into Celestine Prophecy?

The "collecting" makes me think of Angelina Jolie because she admitted it at one point.
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Voted to unpin. This is as bad as leftists yelling at the sky.
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Clickbait shit. I agree.

Ban this guy's ass.
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946, I am a real person. Geez.
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Pssst. However they respond to you, it's going to have "lol" at the end. chuckle

I'd put money on it.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


I'm sure.

It's not like I can prove I'm a person.

Anyway, organic farming...

A tangent, were they into Celestine Prophecy?

The "collecting" makes me think of Angelina Jolie because she admitted it at one point.
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I have no idea about the Celestine Prophesy, but some of the scientists were so far out there that I ...
I've never actually spoken about some of what I saw them do.

Which is surprising considering how much I've blathered on about over the years.
But they genuinely thought they were capable of massive leaps and super futuristic results. They destroyed a lot of lives in their experimentation.

They were Age of Aquarius types. I could easily imagine them in the middle of a cult. I think they may have belonged there more than the lab.

It was just a bizarre result from the 60s.
DoD meets chem department on acid.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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The pomp and circumstance comes later


1 Samuel 16:7
7 But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.
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As much as I understand and recognize the need for religion to maintain a functioning society of people, I'm not as much into the fantasy of a good lord.

While lords (governors of land) may have once been good and had the well being of their people at heart because a cared for slave is loyal and works more reliably; that simply is not the case with the lords of today. Like spoiled children, they expect something for nothing. They may be lords, but they are not good lords.
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The fantasy is that religion makes a good functioning society, I think looking at society should put the lie to that.
What does the bible say about the Law of religion? We were better off without it.
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Society is already limping along. Religion's a crutch.
I'm not going to kick it out from under them.

But an ideal society... would probably be more transparent about why we should be good to each other, and protective, and put it back in our hands.

Still, mechanically, I don't think enough brains function that way. They genuinely seem to falter without that guy in the sky.
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What is religion, just a way to see the world and make sense of it to different people. Religion isn't even the same for everyone.

If a person sees the world through a physicist's reality is that a crutch too.
"It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman)
Calm seas do not a sailor make,
Nor easy horses, a horseman.
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen
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scripted softball question. 77105205, and tcpoft's writing style and the tone seem similar!

you really should put a pair of glasses on your owl avatar,
it might make your commentary …. nope! nevermind!
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So, from the thirty or so bitchy and paranoid comments on this and a couple of my other posts over the past 24 hours, it seems I have your undivided attention.

You believe you've found a TPTB that is low hanging fruit within reach and a perfect level at which to gleefully attack.

I'm assuming this is your five minutes of hate.

I'm going to tell you something. It probably won't change your obsession, but you may as well know who you are attacking.

I was a toddler taken from a war torn area and then illegally adopted. A war orphan, the easiest type of child to disappear on this planet. A ghost.

I was a cash cow for the person who received me.

I was among wealth, but I only benefited from it when my being there would be a benefit to someone else.

So, yes, I did get to see and go places you will never go.

I also had the teeth rotting out of my head while standing in that opulence.

If you think they exploit people harshly from far away, try being an unprotected child within their arm's grasp.

Before you do your schizophrenic dance of glee around me, learn that not everything is as simplistic or clean as they have taught you and millions of others.
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That's terrible. What keeps you going?
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As much as I understand and recognize the need for religion to maintain a functioning society of people, I'm not as much into the fantasy of a good lord.

While lords (governors of land) may have once been good and had the well being of their people at heart because a cared for slave is loyal and works more reliably; that simply is not the case with the lords of today. Like spoiled children, they expect something for nothing. They may be lords, but they are not good lords.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


The fantasy is that religion makes a good functioning society, I think looking at society should put the lie to that.
What does the bible say about the Law of religion? We were better off without it.
 Quoting: Furrry Pete


Society is already limping along. Religion's a crutch.
I'm not going to kick it out from under them.

But an ideal society... would probably be more transparent about why we should be good to each other, and protective, and put it back in our hands.

Still, mechanically, I don't think enough brains function that way. They genuinely seem to falter without that guy in the sky.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft




What is religion, just a way to see the world and make sense of it to different people. Religion isn't even the same for everyone.

If a person sees the world through a physicist's reality is that a crutch too.
 Quoting: Furrry Pete


It's the difference between growing your own corn or just eating it.
Being at your wedding or sending a proxy in your place.

At the end of the day, you're both fed and married.

But how you got there is profoundly different.

We have more respect for the things (and people) who we have to put in effort for. Putting it in god's hands takes away some of that effort.

So, it's okay. God is essentially formula for a baby, and a baby can thrive on formula. But we all know there's something that's even better for them and it comes from the person closest to them.

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I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.





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