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Not a Single Mention of Jesus ANYWHERE in The Dead Sea Scrolls. Prove Me Wrong.

 
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I already know your shtick.

Quoting references to the "Son of Man" - This is an assumption that the authors of the DSS viewed Jesus as the Son of Man, while Jewish tradition views The Nation of Israel as the "Son of Man".
So, it is more likely the DSS is referring to Israel.

"Virgin Birth" references - These are in SECOND Enoch.
Second Enoch is NOT in the DSS.

So... Prove me wrong.
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Very interesting, the Buddhists have more evidence of Jesus than the bible and it is credible.
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Very interesting, the Buddhists have more evidence of Jesus than the bible and it is credible.
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I don't care about the Buddhists.

In all honesty, either do Christians.
The only reason they slightly care... Is because they are frustrated with Jesus not being found anywhere in Jewish texts (You know... Where it actually matters.) so they find solace in Pagan texts... pfft.
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I already know your shtick.

Quoting references to the "Son of Man" - This is an assumption that the authors of the DSS viewed Jesus as the Son of Man, while Jewish tradition views The Nation of Israel as the "Son of Man".
So, it is more likely the DSS is referring to Israel.

"Virgin Birth" references - These are in SECOND Enoch.
Second Enoch is NOT in the DSS.

So... Prove me wrong.
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I’ve seen your type flee at his name. All proof I need.
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Re: Not a Single Mention of Jesus ANYWHERE in The Dead Sea Scrolls. Prove Me Wrong.
I already know your shtick.

Quoting references to the "Son of Man" - This is an assumption that the authors of the DSS viewed Jesus as the Son of Man, while Jewish tradition views The Nation of Israel as the "Son of Man".
So, it is more likely the DSS is referring to Israel.

"Virgin Birth" references - These are in SECOND Enoch.
Second Enoch is NOT in the DSS.

So... Prove me wrong.
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I’ve seen your type flee at his name. All proof I need.
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So you can't prove me wrong.
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I already know your shtick.

Quoting references to the "Son of Man" - This is an assumption that the authors of the DSS viewed Jesus as the Son of Man, while Jewish tradition views The Nation of Israel as the "Son of Man".
So, it is more likely the DSS is referring to Israel.

"Virgin Birth" references - These are in SECOND Enoch.
Second Enoch is NOT in the DSS.

So... Prove me wrong.
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I’ve seen your type flee at his name. All proof I need.
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So you can't prove me wrong.
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No one gives a fuck.

Piss off.

Retard.
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Isaiah 53
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I already know your shtick.

Quoting references to the "Son of Man" - This is an assumption that the authors of the DSS viewed Jesus as the Son of Man, while Jewish tradition views The Nation of Israel as the "Son of Man".
So, it is more likely the DSS is referring to Israel.

"Virgin Birth" references - These are in SECOND Enoch.
Second Enoch is NOT in the DSS.

So... Prove me wrong.
 Quoting: DPS7


I’ve seen your type flee at his name. All proof I need.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73774715


So you can't prove me wrong.
 Quoting: DPS7


No one gives a fuck.

Piss off.

Retard.
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bsflag

90% of the world's geo politics if based on religion and faith...
75% (Guesstimation) of people's politics is based on belief of this stupid false messiah.

People care... I bet you do too.
You are just butthurt, so you brush it off by saying you "don't care"

Your time is up.
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Isaiah 53
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This thread is about the DSS.

Christianity's claims regarding Isaiah 53 have been thoroughly refuted since the first day Christians used Isaiah 53 as evidence.
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Well considering that they were copies of certain Old Testament books and written 300 years before Jesus was born then I am not surprised.
OP is an idiot.
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I’ve seen your type flee at his name. All proof I need.
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So you can't prove me wrong.
 Quoting: DPS7


No one gives a fuck.

Piss off.

Retard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77761172


bsflag

90% of the world's geo politics if based on religion and faith...
75% (Guesstimation) of people's politics is based on belief of this stupid false messiah.

People care... I bet you do too.
You are just butthurt, so you brush it off by saying you "don't care"

Your time is up.
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Ok..lets say I gave a shit.

What do you expect me or any single person to do against the worldwide juggernaut of multi generational bullshit?

Sit here and whinge about it like you?

Its like screaming at a cloud for daring to rain on you.

Thats what I meant by "RETARD".

Cause thats exactly what you are doing.

And while you are at it...go pick on the koran too.

They fuck gots..children..and blow shit up.

How come yu dont give a fuck about them?
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The son of man is not referring to a artificial country that chosen people of G-d have no right to be in. Fck off schlomo
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The son of man is not referring to an artificial country that the chosen people of G-d/e have no right to be in. Fck off schlomo
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I see the horned demons have control of this site
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I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. Daniel
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OP. Why would you expect to find mention of Jesus in scrolls written 300 years before he was born?

Are you an idiot?
Don't you know how time works?
Did historians in the 1700s write about Hitler?

I can't believe the stupidity of this thread.
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Same old rabbinist back with the same old rabbinist straw man.

For Christians, it matters not whether Jesus is in the Dead Sea scrolls. It matters that he is in the New Testament and that, in that, it matters that he fullfils the messianic prophecies in the Old Testament.

It matters that the top theological (and agnostic/atheistic) scholars consider these writings to be 1st century Jewish writings, that they believe the resurrection to be a fact and that the Dead Sea scrolls show that the OT writings which we were previously told were changed or written later to add Jesus, were not.

As for Jewish tradition on the ‘son of man’, your traditions are babble. Your traditions rely on one rabbi being of more importance than another. Your late 1st century religion relies not on what scripture says, but rather what men say about the scripture. You’re in no position to lecture. Was Ezekiel the state of Israel? No, he wasn’t. But he is referred to as the ‘son of man’.
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Isn't there a reference to The Teacher of Righteousness in DSS?
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I already know your shtick.

Quoting references to the "Son of Man" - This is an assumption that the authors of the DSS viewed Jesus as the Son of Man, while Jewish tradition views The Nation of Israel as the "Son of Man".
So, it is more likely the DSS is referring to Israel.

"Virgin Birth" references - These are in SECOND Enoch.
Second Enoch is NOT in the DSS.

So... Prove me wrong.
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Why would a 1 century BC cult of Judaism mention a 1 century AC figure at all?

The dead sea scrolls said nothing of Nero either nor the destruction of the temple, prove me wrong!
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OP. Why would you expect to find mention of Jesus in scrolls written 300 years before he was born?

Are you an idiot?
Don't you know how time works?
Did historians in the 1700s write about Hitler?

I can't believe the stupidity of this thread.
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Isaiah 53
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This thread is about the DSS.

Christianity's claims regarding Isaiah 53 have been thoroughly refuted since the first day Christians used Isaiah 53 as evidence.
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but not proven, it can be argued but not proven that it isn't about Messiah.
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This may...

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From the moment of their discovery, some scholars suggested that at least some of the scrolls may be the work of early Christians. After all, a certain “Teacher of Righteousness” is mentioned as a persecuted figure and there is also a “Wicked Priest” and other characters that seem to mirror early Christianity. Most scholars, however, have dismissed any connection between the community that hid their scroll library some 2,000 years ago in caves at Qumran and the earliest followers of Jesus. Now, I’ve made a discovery that may change all this. Put simply, I believe that one of the fragments called by scholars by the very unappealing name of “4Q541” explicitly refers to Jesus.

Seems the scholars chose to cherry pick what words they'd translate.

He also said that scholars prefer not to translate “Talia”/crucifixion because the first letter of the word is not clear. When I pointed out that many words in The Dead Sea Scrolls are translated even though they are missing a letter, he shrugged and said, “depends on the word.”

It's funny that most want to make claims that the Bible is not true because "man wrote it"; but, will take the word of so-called scholars as the gospel truth.
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Well considering that they were copies of certain Old Testament books and written 300 years before Jesus was born then I am not surprised.
OP is an idiot.
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And with this DipShit7 has moved on.

Thanks for your retarded thread.
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Hey, I think the Dead Sea Scrolls should be returned to the Palestinians.

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Isaiah 53
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This thread is about the DSS.

Christianity's claims regarding Isaiah 53 have been thoroughly refuted since the first day Christians used Isaiah 53 as evidence.
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Lmao
If I had to lie to prove my views, I might look elsewhere.
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I already know your shtick.

Quoting references to the "Son of Man" - This is an assumption that the authors of the DSS viewed Jesus as the Son of Man, while Jewish tradition views The Nation of Israel as the "Son of Man".
So, it is more likely the DSS is referring to Israel.

"Virgin Birth" references - These are in SECOND Enoch.
Second Enoch is NOT in the DSS.

So... Prove me wrong.
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Modern day Jewish people, are descendants of Edomites and Canaanites, with only a sprinkle of Judean ancestry in the mix.

Jewish people can't even understand the meaning of Keeping the Sabbath, and will walk ten miles collecting wood, but think it is OK, as long as someone else lights it fire.

Also, the Dead Sea Scrolls, are a grab bag of different Scrolls, from different variants of the Temple faith. Most of the Scrolls are from 300 BC to the first Century.

Jewish Tradition, is "the tradition of the Rabbi". It is garbage the Rabbi make up(most of whom are Edomite converts), to suite them for whatever reason.

Lastly, Judeans of that time period, would not think "Son of Man" meant the "Nation of Israel", as Biblically speaking, "Israel" is used to identify with the Ten Northern Tribes.

After Christ, the Rabbi re-edited their version of Scripture, and changed many of their traditions, to coverup that Jesus Christ(Yeshua) was/is the promised redeemer.

The Whole nonsense of a "Jewish Messiah", is just Biblical nonsense. In the sense that, the Judeans where so utterly fallen away, they because supreme chauvinists of the most useless types.

The Judeans, like modern Jewish people, want another Solomon to lead them to never ending prosperity and the enslavement of others. Look at the Judean Prophets, and they where always obsessed with other peoples wealth and well doing.

Such a people could never understand the plain truth of the Messianic prophecies: Jesus Christ was the promised redeemer of Adam and Eve.

As America and the West make the enemies of the Heavenly Father their new priest's and god's, America and the West will continue to fall into darkness.
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I already know your shtick.

Quoting references to the "Son of Man" - This is an assumption that the authors of the DSS viewed Jesus as the Son of Man, while Jewish tradition views The Nation of Israel as the "Son of Man".
So, it is more likely the DSS is referring to Israel.

"Virgin Birth" references - These are in SECOND Enoch.
Second Enoch is NOT in the DSS.

So... Prove me wrong.
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Obsess over Jesus much?
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So you can't prove me wrong.
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No one gives a fuck.

Piss off.

Retard.
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bsflag

90% of the world's geo politics if based on religion and faith...
75% (Guesstimation) of people's politics is based on belief of this stupid false messiah.

People care... I bet you do too.
You are just butthurt, so you brush it off by saying you "don't care"

Your time is up.
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Ok..lets say I gave a shit.

What do you expect me or any single person to do against the worldwide juggernaut of multi generational bullshit?

Sit here and whinge about it like you?

Its like screaming at a cloud for daring to rain on you.

Thats what I meant by "RETARD".

Cause thats exactly what you are doing.

And while you are at it...go pick on the koran too.

They fuck gots..children..and blow shit up.

How come yu dont give a fuck about them?
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I don't expect anything from anyone.

I know exactly what I am doing.

Destroying the collective psyche of Christendom.
It takes time.
A lot of time.

Each thread like this is like a drop of water eating away at a rock, slowly...
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Isaiah 53
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This thread is about the DSS.

Christianity's claims regarding Isaiah 53 have been thoroughly refuted since the first day Christians used Isaiah 53 as evidence.
 Quoting: DPS7


but not proven, it can be argued but not proven that it isn't about Messiah.
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Can be a Hundred % proven it is not about Jesus.

"He shall prolong his days, see seed"
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No one gives a fuck.

Piss off.

Retard.
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bsflag

90% of the world's geo politics if based on religion and faith...
75% (Guesstimation) of people's politics is based on belief of this stupid false messiah.

People care... I bet you do too.
You are just butthurt, so you brush it off by saying you "don't care"

Your time is up.
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Ok..lets say I gave a shit.

What do you expect me or any single person to do against the worldwide juggernaut of multi generational bullshit?

Sit here and whinge about it like you?

Its like screaming at a cloud for daring to rain on you.

Thats what I meant by "RETARD".

Cause thats exactly what you are doing.

And while you are at it...go pick on the koran too.

They fuck gots..children..and blow shit up.

How come yu dont give a fuck about them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77761172


I don't expect anything from anyone.

I know exactly what I am doing.

Destroying the collective psyche of Christendom.
It takes time.
A lot of time.

Each thread like this is like a drop of water eating away at a rock, slowly...
 Quoting: DPS7


It's not working.
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Well considering that they were copies of certain Old Testament books and written 300 years before Jesus was born then I am not surprised.
OP is an idiot.
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