Alcohol is a sin

A second person actually said this?!?

Clearly you missed what I wrote to Chip.

He isnt a Christian, he’s jewish

Wine/Oinos used to mean any type of grape/fruit drink, despite the fact that the english, and greek terms, refer solely to alcoholic wine, and have since languages have evolved.

Read the passage Wedding Feast at Cana in John's gospel.

Sin is any willful activity or willful exclusion from any activity that causes a "burn-hole" in your conscience. You have regrets so you cannot stop playing it over and over in your mind.

The very act, or lack of the act, itself has no power or value whatsoever. It is the person engaging in a memory loop time and time again that is the threat and damage.

This is a soul trap. A trap for when after you die you invert from being a space traveler impacted by time you cannot influence into a time dweller within the space you can no longer change because you're dead. You recording space from conception to death is a recording envelope and you are looking for the escape Door (you hopefully installed at some point in your tenure in space-time).

As you time dwell about in your space-time envelope after death, many instances of repeating the regret in pictures in your mind forces you to go there. They amass like radiation becoming more and more influential over your free will to time dwell about in your space-time envelope. You can become "ground hog day" locked in the time loop and it's very hard to escape.

It can be any obsession about any thing, person, event, whatever.

Bullshit.

Scripture says no thing about drinking.

Being a perpetual drunk yes.

Having some drinks?

Op full of shit.

sin entered the world ... everything is sin in this world.
it's not one this is, one thing isn't.

Does it even matter?

You say alcohol is a sin, I say moderation and the right kind are fine. Brandy and wine are my top two choices.

I’ll drink to that!!

Proverbs 14:29 Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes?

30 They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.

31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.

32 At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.

33 Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things.

34 Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast.

35 They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again.

Proverbs 14:31 says to not even look at wine, let alone to become a drunkard/alcoholic. Even wine consumption that does not lead to alcoholism is against the will of YHWH Elohim, as merely a drop of wine causes impairment and confusion to a degree, however minimal in comparison to that which befalls alcoholics.

100% agreed, alcohol ruins families and kills people, the stuff needs to be banned for the collective well being of society, I haven't taken in one drop of it since October 2,2016, and believe me it was a mistake

I will drink to that.

You mean an alcohol? you have the well known types of the class of chemical as follows

Isopropyl Alcohol: and consuming that is a sin.

Methyl alcohol: Totally sin

Ethyl Alcohol: Sin if your ignorant, also super sin for believing in it as "THE ALCOHOL"when in fact it is "A ALCOHOL".

"In chemistry, an alcohol is any organic compound in which the hydroxyl functional group (–OH) is bound to a carbon"
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You are a sin

Alcohol never got me laid, so it's worthless.

I'd rather save my money and pay a hooker instead. That has a guaranteed result that I want. Alcohol is just another lure, like clubs and bars.

According to your definition, organic acids, glycols, and sugars are all alcohols.

So are many more arcane compounds.

Sinnin' means loosing you're way.

Sin is an emotionally loaded word when what it means it without condemnation.

When you shoot an arrow and have no training, it will go all over the place. But the average placement describes "accuracy".

When you get better, because on eye is on target (shooting or aiming eye), or if you had no training, you use the other eye which is always off target, then you "favor" one part of the target and that is called "precision".

YHWH desires to give you the Law and that due to free will led believers to consistently be off target either accurate or precise or both.

YHWH sent Jesus, His only begotten son, which the Bible tells us was always the plan from the start. Jesus tries to inspire us to listen to YHWH as only YHWH meets the definition of "good". Nobody else. You should almost ban the word "good" from your vocabulary as when use it, it is neither accurate nor precise, but incredibly vague.

Then through grace by Jesus on his own deciding to die on the cross for our sins (errors), then ransomed us from the Law. Otherwise nobody could be saved on their merits. You can never be good enough for Heaven.

Then YHWH sent the Holy Spirit to always be with a believer as a guide.

Then beside faith, the Bible cryptically mentions that every single believer has an angel who is watching over us.

YOU ARE NEVER ALONE. So when you feel lonely and scared, that is not from the TRINITY.

Ethanol is a mistake because it masks loneliness.

Our ancestors constantly were worried about sufficient food, water, supplies, and security. And so at festival time, in their abundance might make a little bitty amount of raisin wine. That were ferment and was immediately consumed. And then there was no more.

Our ancestors went wrong and made "errors" as some were lonely and to mask that loneliness bought ethanol made by unscrupulous people for profit. That is wrong. A tiny little bit of red wine is good for your heart but has very low levels of ethanol. It is not at all like distillation.

Distillation is where serious error becomes pronounced and routine. It's so strong in ethanolcontent that it blocks the frontal lobe of the brain and so morals(inward dialogue) and ethics (shared values) are ignored and other sinners (those who routinely make errors) then incite each other to choose inaccurate and imprecise decisions contrary to the TRINITY's plans for us.

That is rebellion.

Jesus, when he was dying on the cross, felt the WEIGHT of every sin (ERROR) that would ever be made for all TIME. And yet still despite knowing every naked error, still loves you regardless.

There is only ONE unforgiveable sin: the Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

Jesus does NOT CONDEMN us but SAVES US. Lucifer encourages error in order to destroy you since you not only sin, but feel shame and guilt, sin more, embrace evil, them get others to sin too.

Why do you think sinners try to get an innocent person drunk?

Don't beat yourself us. Don't give up. Don't encourage others to sin.

Instead get a grip. Realize you are way way way off target amd likely in need of spiritual direction. Find a Bible-based church with a obedient pastor who is a good communicator. WORK to reduce error. Work just to be obedient to the TRINITY. Surround yourself with those flawed souls who also are sinners but working for the cure of their souls.

If you fall off a bike as a kid, you could cry for mommy buy then stay immature. A skinned knee won't kill you. Get up, get a grip, get back onthe bike, and keep going.

Don't let Lucifer steal you victory. Lucifer will do whatever he has to to make you fail. Think how malevolent that is. It's like a bitter woman who intentionally ruins a loving couple's marriage.

Lucifer will send fallen angels and human minions (who have embraced malevolence) and the try to seduce you to sin(make errors).

A failing undisciplined rebellious soul may seem to be a buddy or an easy woman to offer comfort, but that person is unwittingly serving Lucifer.

You cannotbe around those people because when you become an alcoholic, that addiction is so strong, that you will be unable to resist if around your old drinking buddies.

Don't do it. The reason people do is they get lonely. That is why a healthy church with excellent music who honestly helps the suffering will be your new healthy obedient friends. That is where you find a spouse, never in a bar.

The alcoholic with a Flogger!…What else can We say about his weakness, never mind the serious repercussions to his Disciples.

Why didn't the other 12 disciples join the young Drunk,.. in his hysteria??.

Oh bullshit! The Bible doesnt say it was non alcoholic. What a load of crap

i dont drink it nor do i smoke

Well, many believe that tobacco, coffee, cussing, and dancing are sins.

One man's sin is another man's pleasure

Please stop lecturing us about your moral conundrums

Jesus was dying for a drink?

This thread makes me want to pour a drink.