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POLL: The reason no "public defense" for Holmes may be...
 ...Because the "players" wish Holmes to be their Joan of Ark.
 ...Because loss of stock values has the "mob" rioting for pay-back
 ...because it is an EXAMPLE not to come against BIG PHARMA--ever!
 Because money was made...she's "collateral damage."
 ...BIG PHARMA has all the "chips"--Holmes has no Champions.
 ...because she is a "Valley Girl" nobody can believe now.
 ...Once you "trip" the "boundary" playing with big boys--you CRASH!
 ...because it was ALL a smoke and pony show from day ONE.
 ...No body takes up ARMS for a "dreamer." Hope is gone.
 I can't decide...It's a really sad story for honest change.
 Who the heck is Elizabeth Holmes, why should I care?
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EDITED: 7-2-2019 @ 8:30 A.M. EST

LATEST ARTICLE FOR TODAY ON ELIZABETH HOLMES:


[link to www.statnews.com (secure)]

[Less than 50%]
In a pretrial hearing in federal court in San Jose, Calif., on Friday,
federal prosecutors and defense attorneys agreed to begin jury selection
the week of July 28, 2020, and start opening arguments on Aug. 4, 2020,
a spokesperson for the U.S. Attorney’s Office confirmed. The trial is
expected to last for about three months.
Major re-write to introduction material to provide
a summary to the HBO video on Silicon Valley Entrepreneur,
Elizabeth Holmes. Holmes will be coming up for her criminal
trial for fraud (and numerous other non-violent crimes) later
NEXT YEAR in what promises to be quite the "media circus."

WHO IS ELIZABETH HOLMES...AND WHAT IS HER SENSE OF "MISSION?"


Elizabeth Holmes "2014 Ted Talk" (2 minute duration)


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
2 Minute duration. 2014 eloquent presentation
by the "visionary" medical disrupter/entrepreneur
Elizabeth Holmes addresses the TED audience. How
could this end SO BADLY? Was Holmes a "crusader...
or a criminal?" Why are there so few champions in her
corner? Let's look.


NOTE:
REMEMBER: IN THE U.S.A.--A PERSON IS CONSIDERED "INNOCENT"
UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!
IT MAY BE A FACT, HOWEVER, THAT
ELIZABETH HOLMES HAS ALREADY BEEN "CONVICTED BY THE MEDIA"
WITH AT LEAST 3 "MINI-DOCUMENTARIES" ON HER ASSUMED
FRAUD. (GOOD LUCK FINDING AN IMPARTIAL JURY--JUST LOOK
AT THE POSTS IN MY THREAD. IT'S "MOB JUSTICE!")


At least 3 major mini-series have been created to tell
her story. One of which "The Inventor: Out for Blood in
Silicon Valley" is the one I'm posting. Please realize that
THIS SPECIAL is an extremely NEGATIVE "spin" on the HOlmes
story and may not be what ends up being the entire truth
about what actually happened to Theranos, the company that
promised to "revolutionize medicine in the United States"
by Elizabeth Holmes's Silicon Valley start-up.

A beautiful woman, older men, a jealous mentor (Holmes's
former Standford Professor turned nemesis and a strategically-placed "snitch"
(grandson to former Sec. of State George Schultz)--the Theranos Co. story
--will also be made into a Hollywood movie soon! Below are
a couple of articles you can read ahead of the thread material
for background. It's a compelling story with an ENDING completely unsolved as yet.


FortuneMiss-fort

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]
Trial post-poned until July 2020 (published 7-01-2019):
[link to thehill.com (secure)]


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eqeqeq
Hey! You guys HEAR THAT? What was that BELL?
Was that my micro-wave oven? Did you set the smoke alarm
too high?

ANSWER: That? No...Not the smoke alarm...IT WAS
"THE MACHINE THAT WENT BING!"


MONTY PYTHON'S "THE MACHINE THAT WENT BING!"


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
1 minute duration. "The Machine that goes BING!"
from Monty Python's "The Meaning of Life" (30 year
anniversary this year.

I haven't yet made up my mind. Maybe you can help me
on this one.


The whole TRUTH about Elizabeth Holme's MACHINE THAT
WENT BING"--THE EDISON--has yet to be fully heard. Her
criminal trial for fraud (along with her former boyfriend
and mentor the C.O.O. for Theranos, Sunny) is coming up
summer/fall of 2020 (postponed according to "The Hill.")

Listen to her conviction, her eloquent presentation and
her self-assured position as a "world changer" fit to
be in Silicon Valley in the company of such "greats"
as Steve Jobs, Elon Musk and other young "shakers" inventing
America's future:

Elizabeth Holmes "2014 Ted Talk" (2 minute duration)


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
2 Minute duration. 2014 eloquent presentation
by the "visionary" medical disrupter/entrepreneur
Elizabeth Holmes addresses the TED audience. How
could this end SO BADLY? Was Holmes a "crusader...
or a criminal?" Why are there so few champions in her
corner? Let's look.



The "INVENTOR" special on HBO...and based partially on
the book "BAD Blood" (by Wall Street Journal author John Carreyrou) may be, in fact, both influenced by and secretly
sponsored by(?) BIG MEDICINE/BIG POLITICS. Here's an
article about it:
[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

Thus the HBO documentary pulling heavily from Carryrou's slant in "OUT FOR BLOOD"
may be more than "biased." Could it, in fact, be guilty of RAILROADING a dedicated
and promising young inventor and blowing to KINGDOM COME any hope the American
people still hold for more reasonable access to their
health care information and accurate medical testing?

ElizabethVSGolia

Was the "vision" (low cost medical tests/care in the future of BIG MEDICINE)
--Elizabeth Holmes, CEO/owner of Theranos--a so-called
"fools errand," or did Holmes have an NEW MEDICAL INVENTION
that was not only THREATENING to "special interests" of
Big Pharma, but her company and reputation--and soon her LIFE
--may be destroyed in the "fall-out."

FortuneMiss-fort

And...it is NOT over yet. The gal may end up with a PRISON
SENTENCE depending of the outcome of her criminal trial coming
up this fall 2019. Is ANYONE STANDING WITH ELIZABETH HOLMES
and her "beautiful vision" that: "Nobody should have to
say "Good Bye" to those they LOVE."

SERIES VIDEO FROM HBO will give you the story--but be
advised (it may be "slanted" by BIG PHARMA INTERESTS in
the medical field.)
How can we "tease out" the TRUTH of
this creative and beautiful inventor, Elizabeth Holmes
and her machine "The Edison?"

The strange thing about this whole story is that there
has been FEW (if any) rebuttals to the Elizabeth Holmes
story in the media (where you would expect to see any kind
of "innocent until PROVEN guilty") for the American public.

Let's consider the "slanted view of Holmes and her
company, Theranos" and argue the points they make. I
personally believe she was HERSELF used by "the BIG BOY'S
club" to make billions in stock interests as the company gained public support...then TURNED ON HER--and probably
selling their STOCKS SHORT for a wind-fall profit--with
the announcement of the Theranos "closing and liquidation."
Could 'BIG MEDICINE" be so calculating and so corrupt to
be somehow involved in taking down this promising young
company?

This could be argued both ways...but bottomline, does
this talented woman deserve years in a prison cell? Would
she have had the "political pull" to get certain "approvals"
for her invention gain so much noteriety had not her "Board
of Theranos Company Good Ole' Boys" not been directly involved? Why don't THEY remain in their corner?

:TheranosBoard201:
"High rollers Club" of politically well-placed
personalities who made up the Theranos Company's
Board of Directors. How do these powerful men
place a young, idealistic inventor like Elizabeth
Holmes out in the "trenches" while they are protected
"behind the front lines" by the same power and
influence which built the Holmes company into a
$9 Billion company by 2015. Nobody smells "something
FISHY" here?


FishyINDonsMark



ONE HOUR HBO PRODUCTION OF ELIZABETH HOLMES IN "THE INVENTOR"


["Spoiler alert!" This documentary is an extremely negative and often times misleading "spin" on the Elizabeth Holmes story.
I personally think--back tracking a bit--that if I
were setting out to DISCREDIT a true "disturber" of
the MEDICAL STATUS QUO...I couldn't PAY ENOUGH money
for a better smear on a person's image or career than
this HBO Documentary. There are also several misleading
statements in the film.] But...good luck finding EVEN ONE
DOCUMENTARY that shows Holmes in a positive light. They
don't exist!



[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
1 hour plus.(Remember, take this presentation
with a grain of salt since it is based on a
possible "slanted report" by a Wall Street Journal
reporter bought off by BIG MEDICINE INTERESTS...and
those in "high places" who benefitted richly from
the $9 billion revenue for Theranos at the TOP-point
of its success. The lab testing companies pull down
over $75 billion a year in bloated costs for medical
testing in the U.S.A. alone--2 MAJOR LABS control 90%
of the testing dollars. THAT...IS BIG MONEY.

CashUnderMAT
"Always...FOLLOW THE MONEY!"

Ask yourself while watching the HBO documentary...
"WHO STOOD TO GAIN" from the "Theranos Scandle"==
knowing that EVEN THE FAILURE OF A BIG COMPANY will
mean "big wins by selling SHORT" in stock trading!

Hopefully, the WHOLE TRUTH will come out in the coming
criminal trial for Elizabeth Holmes. Criminal...or
crusader?

cheers
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Elizabeth Holmes began to "answer her accusers" as
early as 2014/2015 at the beginning of the MEDICAL/BIG
PHARMA version of "RELEASE THE KRAKEN...



[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
1 minute duration. Movie Clip "Release the Karken!"

Here she is answering on the question about the FDA
approval for her to go ahead with "Wellness Centers"
in the Arizona Walgreen Drug Stores:


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
14:05 Minutes...claims she's in an FDA "transition"
and that the report Tharanos is only doing ONE TEST
is misleading. They DO have the technology and have
have done multiple tests in the past before the FDA hold.

What a very scary place to find one's self isolated
and alone after having the "big boys" (Kissinger, Schultz,
the heads of Apple, and other silicon big-hitters) formerly
solid in her corner.

TrippyPillowHug


Good luck to Elizabeth and Sunny!

cheers
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SHORTER VERSION OF INFO ON "THERANOS" MINI-BLOOD LAB
AND ELIZABETH HOLMES:



The Drop Out ABC News--In parts (shorter view than the
opening OP video from HBO.)

[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
9 minutes part 1
At the 27 second mark, we see the young idealist,
Elizabeth Holmes being sworn in at a 2017 LEGAL DEPOSITION
taking her sworn testamony as she, her former C.O.O. for
the medical mini-lab/computer company and the company itself
are examining suggestions of wrong-doing and fraud. You can
see in her body language that she is probably terrified.

Video begins examining what some are claiming is a
"fortunate birth into privelege" reporting that Elizabeth
Holmes was raised in a upper class family in Washington D.C.
with parents and friends of the family who truly believed
this young child was a "savant"--a special person with
special abilities which should be developed.

But NOT all "privileged kids" end up starting a $10 billion
company (within 13 years of start-up)...only to have it
crash around her pretty blond hair in disaster and a criminal
investigation for "fraud."

What possibly could have gone wrong?

Mom worked for members of Congress (in unspecified position in
this report), while the dad worked at the State Department (also
an unspecified position...hmmmm....) The grandfather had made
his riches as the KING OF YEAST:

Quote [less than 50%]:

Holmes' great-grandfather, Christian Rasmus Holmes, was a Danish
physician who married Bettie Fleischmann, the wealthy daughter of
Charles Louis Fleischmann, the founder of Fleischmann's Yeast;
Dr. Holmes went on to establish Cincinnati General Hospital and
the University of Cincinnati's medical school.
END QUOTE

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Part 2 for "The Drop Out"

[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
10 minute duration.
Part 2 of "The Drop Out"--the amazing story of
inventor/entrepreneur Elizabeth Holmes.

I was personally surprised that these 2 very intense
examinations of the Theranos story ("The Inventor" and
"The Drop-out") had no adequate rebuttal (presenting
Holmes in a more positive light)...Is this an
ORCHESTRATED lynching sponsored by BIG MEDICINE/BIG
PHARMA? UDECIDE!

NOTE:
The remaining series on "The Drop Out" available online.


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Don't know much about this other than a little I saw in the news. They said she was a fraud.
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Don't know much about this other than a little I saw in the news. They said she was a fraud.
 Quoting: bigD111


Thanks bigD for your post! I know this topic is not one
many folks on GLP may have heard about (unless you are
into the stock market and medical trading stocks like the
failed company "Theranos" was between 2000 and 2016...)

So, Yeah...When you are trying to come up against your
so-called "competition" (and BIG PHARMA/BIG MEDICAL
IS A "BIG GUY!") you should expect just about ANYTHING to
take your challenge down.

I put up this "cartoon" I created for the thread on the
OP...and it says a lot!

ElizabethVSGolia

The REAL "Catch-22" for Elizabeth Holmes bid to "make
it big in the medical blood-testing field, was there actually
would need to have been an IMPARTIAL TESTING FACILITY with
which to compare the Theranos tests against other scientific
tests/labs.

If you are sending what may be a "false-positive" blood test (like
from a Theranos Mini-Lab) under doctor's suspicions that it may
be a faulty "test, you are FOR SURE going to get a FALSE-POSITIVE
from a company in direct competition to the "NEW GUY ON THE BLOCK!" And, all EXISTING BLOOD TESTING LABS at the time
of the Theranos start-up were direct competitors for medical
dollars!

It is coming to be very evident that unless you have
some kind of "generalized health care" where the "PROFIT
MOTIVE" is not something they worry about
...Theranos was
DOOMED from the beginning to fail, even had Elizabeth's
Holmes Mini-Lab for tests that avoid BIG PHARMA/BIG MEDICAL
interests because her company would have a huge financial
impact on their "Golden Goose Industry!"

Sadly, for Holmes, the investors and employees in the
new blood-testing company Theranos...there is NO
IMPARTIAL INTERESTS that could weigh whether or not
her product was accurate or not. Too much money at stake
for a successful challenger.

CashUnderMAT

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EDITED 6-30-2019 3:00 PM EST

FOR THE "FAST-TRACKER" A QUICK BACKGROUND AND A SIMPLE
QUESTION:

ONE HOUR HBO PRODUCTION OF ELIZABETH HOLMES IN "THE INVENTOR"

[link to youtu.be (secure)]
:FairUSE:
1 hour plus.(Remember, take this presentation
with a grain of salt since it is based on a
possible "slanted report" by a Wall Street Journal
reporter bought off by BIG PHARMA INTERESTS...and
those in "high places" who benefitted richly from
the $9 billion revenue for Theranos at the TOP-point
of its success.

Ask yourself while watching the HBO documentary...
"WHO STOOD TO GAIN" from the "Theranos Scandle"==
knowing that EVEN THE FAILURE OF A BIG COMPANY will
mean "big wins by selling SHORT" in stock trading!
(Hint...one person on Holmes's original Board of
Directors Pic. above, was deeply committed to the Asparatame
GREEN LIGHT FROM FDA for the deadly sweetener to be added
to America's foods...know which one?) Here is a clue
(his name is only hinted at in this article but he was
part of a "generation" of men who made decisions for
the financial gain of "higher-ups" in FDA decisions)
find it in this link:
Thread: any gum without aspartame or sucralose or artificial sweeteners anymore?

ONE SIMPLE QUESTION:

Hopefully, the WHOLE TRUTH will come out in the coming
criminal trial for Elizabeth Holmes. Criminal...or
crusader?
----------------------------------------------

END EDITS


eqeqeq
Hey! You guys HEAR THAT? What was that BELL?
Was that my micro-wave oven? Did you set the smoke alarm
too high?
ANSWER: That? No...Not the smoke alarm...IT WAS
"THE MACHINE THAT WENT BING!"



[link to youtu.be (secure)]
:FairUSE:
1 minute duration. "The Machine that goes BING!"
from Monty Python's "The Meaning of Life" (30 year
anniversary this year.

I haven't yet made up my mind. Maybe you can help me
on this one.


The whole TRUTH about Elizabeth Holme's MACHINE THAT
WENT BING"--THE EDISON--has yet to be fully heard. Her
criminal trial for fraud (along with her former boyfriend
and mentor the C.O.O. for Theranos, Sunny) is coming up
this summer/fall.

The "INVENTOR" special on HBO...and the book "Out for Blood" (by Wall Street
Journal author John Carryrou may be, in fact, both influenced by and secretly
sponsored by(?) BIG PHARMA/BIG POLITICS.

Thus the HBO documentary pulling heavily from Carryrou's slant in "OUT FOR BLOOD"
may be more than "biased." It may, in fact, be guilty of RAILROADING a dedicated
and promising young inventor and blowing to KINGDOM COME any hope the American
people still hold for more reasonable blood/medical test costs (with much less
corruption.) And...don't ignore Elizabeth's professed personal vision that:
"Nobody should have to say "Good Bye" to those they love...TOO SOON."


:ElizabethVSGolia:

Was the "vision" (low cost medical tests/care in the future of BIG MEDICINE)
--Elizabeth Holmes, CEO/owner of Theranos--a so-called
"fools errand," or did Holmes have an NEW MEDICAL INVENTION
that was not only THREATENING to "special interests" of
Big Pharma, but her company and reputation--and soon her LIFE
--may be destroyed in the "fall-out."

:FortuneMiss-fort:

And...it is NOT over yet. The gal may end up with a PRISON
SENTENCE depending of the outcome of her criminal trial coming
up this fall 2019. Is ANYONE STANDING WITH ELIZABETH HOLMES
and her "beautiful vision" that: "Nobody should have to
say "Good Bye" to those they LOVE."

SERIES VIDEO FROM HBO will give you the story--but be
advised (it may be "slanted" by BIG PHARMA INTERESTS in
the medical field.)
How can we "tease out" the TRUTH of
this creative and beautiful inventor, Elizabeth Holmes
and her machine "The Edison?"

The strange thing about this whole story is that there
has been FEW (if any) rebuttals to the Elizabeth Holmes
story in the media (where you would expect to see any kind
of "innocent until PROVEN guilty") for the American public.

Let's consider the "slanted view of Holmes and her
company, Theranos" and argue the points they make. I
personally believe she was HERSELF used by "the big
boy's club" to make billions in stock interests as the
company gained public support...then TURNED ON HER when
pressured by BIG PHARMA AND BIG MEDICINE came to bear and
they wanted to GRAB THE MONEY AND RUN!

This could be argued both ways...but bottomline, does
this talented woman deserve years in a prison cell? Would
she have had the "political pull" to get certain "approvals"
for her invention gain so much noteriety had not her "Board
of Theranos Company Good Ole' Boys" not been directly involved? Why don't THEY remain in their corner?

UDECIDE!

:TheranosBoard201:
"High rollers Club" of politically well-placed
personalities who made up the Theranos Company's
Board of Directors. How do these powerful men
place a young, idealistic inventor like Elizabeth
Holmes out in the "trenches" while they are protected
"behind the front lines" by the same power and
influence which built the Holmes company into a
$9 Billion company by 2015. Nobody smells "something
FISHY" here?


:FishyINDonsMark:

ONE HOUR HBO PRODUCTION OF ELIZABETH HOLMES IN "THE INVENTOR"

[link to youtu.be (secure)]
:FairUSE:
1 hour plus.(Remember, take this presentation
with a grain of salt since it is based on a
possible "slanted report" by a Wall Street Journal
reporter bought off by BIG PHARMA INTERESTS...and
those in "high places" who benefitted richly from
the $9 billion revenue for Theranos at the TOP-point
of its success.

Ask yourself while watching the HBO documentary...
"WHO STOOD TO GAIN" from the "Theranos Scandle"==
knowing that EVEN THE FAILURE OF A BIG COMPANY will
mean "big wins by selling SHORT" in stock trading!
(Hint...one person on Holmes's original Board of
Directors Pic. above, was deeply committed to the Asparatame
GREEN LIGHT FROM FDA for the deadly sweetener to be added
to America's foods...know which one?) Here is a clue
(his name is only hinted at in this article but he was
part of a "generation" of men who made decisions for
the financial gain of "higher-ups" in FDA decisions)
find it in this link:
Thread: any gum without aspartame or sucralose or artificial sweeteners anymore?

Hopefully, the WHOLE TRUTH will come out in the coming
criminal trial for Elizabeth Holmes. Criminal...or
crusader?

cheers
O'sCookie
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She is a proven fraud . There is no big pharmaceutical conspiracy or if there was its over now because she is done , she ended herself by being stupid .
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She isn’t the only one.

My favorite up and coming lab... HDL got railroaded too. Either by (breeding lol) greedy execs or manipulative folks that paid folks to bribe doctors to order their tests.

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Don't know much about this other than a little I saw in the news. They said she was a fraud.
 Quoting: bigD111

I watched this or a documentary like it. She wasa fraud.

She claimed this medical miracle machine could run all these sophiticated lab tests very cheaply on a single drop of blood. Itwould revolutionize and bring down thecost of health care.
She raised billions
ini nvestment capital.

but it never actualy worked.

She ran tests behind closeddoors on existingold tech established machines and pawned the results off to investors as having come from her "Edison" machines. whistleblowers inside the firm were harassed ,threatened and isolated.
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I'm near the end, of these long videos. Never heard of her, but voted this was a scam from the beginning.

Parents worked behind the scenes for government players sort of like , black ops kind of?


Could you imagine a watered down version of medical where it doesn't matter if the device doesn't work, if exposure to light and other factors probably, would change the blood profile and errors would be huge? Could you imagine paying a mortgage in medical, and the US is the only country to do this on earth, we have free medical, (and its useless to suggest that the taxes are so large to support it that it aint free when the reality is the US government spends more per person in the US, more percentage wise based on population size, than Canada or any other first world nation, so you're paying more in taxes and then a shitload more for the medical plan????? It's an insane programming you've received) but that your results don't matter, whether they claim you have cancer and have to mortgage or sell your house to give Big Pharma all your families security and assets, thats nothing. Or whether your tests come back negative and you die from not finding out what is wrong? Doesn't matter.

Its a cheap test for medical, and every corrupt exploiter of humanity benefits from this.

You pay, maybe 1000-1800 a month for medical, but still have to cough up 8000 a year, that's like some plans I've seen, and they would probably want a flawed useless test to be the only bloodwork you can get, and even force children into treatments?

Can you imagine a hellish world like that?

I don't think she is just one greedy little girl!

I think like so many children of black ops and cia and various deep state, she was on mission, for them!

And they wanted to bring this in.



In fact, this sounds so much in line with the long term goals of Obamacare.

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By the way, her eyes, and Hillary's: Sanpaku eyes. The eyes of a psychopath.

And it isn't it strange, she actually looks like Hillary's daughter. She looks like she's Chelsea's sister.

Very alarming predator eyes.

Here.

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You can do a search and see it. Its the eyes of a very empowered predator. I believe demon possessed or a demon walk in. Kind of Raptor like or dominating Reptile.

Here is a pic of Chelsea and Elizabeth together:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

They look like sisters.

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I'm near the end, of these long videos. Never heard of her, but voted this was a scam from the beginning.

Parents worked behind the scenes for government players sort of like , black ops kind of?


Could you imagine a watered down version of medical where it doesn't matter if the device doesn't work, if exposure to light and other factors probably, would change the blood profile and errors would be huge? Could you imagine paying a mortgage in medical, and the US is the only country to do this on earth, we have free medical, (and its useless to suggest that the taxes are so large to support it that it aint free when the reality is the US government spends more per person in the US, more percentage wise based on population size, than Canada or any other first world nation, so you're paying more in taxes and then a shitload more for the medical plan????? It's an insane programming you've received) but that your results don't matter, whether they claim you have cancer and have to mortgage or sell your house to give Big Pharma all your families security and assets, thats nothing. Or whether your tests come back negative and you die from not finding out what is wrong? Doesn't matter.

Its a cheap test for medical, and every corrupt exploiter of humanity benefits from this.

You pay, maybe 1000-1800 a month for medical, but still have to cough up 8000 a year, that's like some plans I've seen, and they would probably want a flawed useless test to be the only bloodwork you can get, and even force children into treatments?

Can you imagine a hellish world like that?

I don't think she is just one greedy little girl!

I think like so many children of black ops and cia and various deep state, she was on mission, for them!

And they wanted to bring this in.



In fact, this sounds so much in line with the long term goals of Obamacare.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Thanks for that thoughtful summary. And I do appreciate
your point of view.

Some CIA black ops may very well be...But my point in hosting this
topic/thread is... ALL WE KNOW ABOUT "THERANOS" AND HOLMES
comes from the very "biased slant" of the 2 producers of
the Wall Street Journal (who pander to the very rich and
the ones who would have invested in Teranos stock so, THEY
are the ones "out for blood!") and from the limited coverage
of a popular news broadcasting concern for T.V. (neither of
whom I would trust to give the WHOLE STORY.) WHERE is the
rebuttal?

There needs to be an INDEPENDENT examination of the product
Holmes was attempting to develop and bring forward for cheaper
and faster medical testing (yes, SOME of her tests did work
...the error as I see it isn't with the CONCEPT OF THE
"EDISON COMPUTER/MINI-LAB" but rather that it was put on
the open market way way before it was perfected--WHICH IS
NOT A CRIME!

You would need an independent lab to retest some of those
"false tests" (which they gathered from the Theranos
machine results) that the competing interests in mainstream
medical testing provided as proof for medical fraud. This
would be like Ford announcing they were "recalling certain
model cars for design/safety problems...and SENDING THE
CARS TO TOYOTA to be tested." Everyone who tested the
Theranos medical samples had "skin-in-the-game" so the
whole point of independent investigation needs to be looked
into.


I didn't see any report in either the videos provided nor
in any of the dozens of articles I have researched since the
whole mess broke into the news back in 2015....THAT BOTH
THERANOS TESTS AND THE OTHER MEDICAL LAB TESTS were checked
for accuracy. What I think we saw was the "BIG PHARMA/
BIG MEDICAL" labs got the results they wanted--whether or
not this was the actual outcome of the lab test OR NOT!

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NanotainerHolmes
Holmes hold up her tiny 2" tall "Nano-tainer"
a small, automated blood draw from one pin-prick
to a finger rather than the viles and viles of
drawn blood using a venapuncture proceedure. I'd
rather have the "little test" if given the option.
But at the end of the day it IS NOT THE BLOOD DRAW
or the proceedure/validity of the technology at question
--it's the CHALLENGE she presented to BIG PHARMA/BIG MEDICINE
that was her undoing.


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By the way, her eyes, and Hillary's: Sanpaku eyes. The eyes of a psychopath.

And it isn't it strange, she actually looks like Hillary's daughter. She looks like she's Chelsea's sister.

Very alarming predator eyes.

Here.

[link to i.pinimg.com (secure)]


You can do a search and see it. Its the eyes of a very empowered predator. I believe demon possessed or a demon walk in. Kind of Raptor like or dominating Reptile.

Here is a pic of Chelsea and Elizabeth together:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

They look like sisters.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Hillary and Obama for sure, as I saw them on tv. Obvious possession. I could see it in their eyes. These others look similar! Sanpaku eyes, interesting.
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Thanks AliasX! Love the kittah!

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I am also curious about the reason media exposed her. But, sort of think they didn't want to bring too much heat, after all, many of us know that the whole Trump Russian Collusion crapola was to draw attention away from the liberals who were up to their eyeballs with collusion and crimes, ie they really counted on Hillary winning.

I think throwing her to the wolves is basically because Trump won and they really really really wanted to tie up some lose ends here.


Just think what would have happened to the whole nation and medical, the ponzy scam no one would have toppled, if Trump had not won the election.

I believe they got orders to cut her down, so they wouldn't get into that investigation against the liberals and expose the whole Obama care.

Its already evil. Obama drafted a plan to take the middle class working class in the US, primarily white in numbers, raise their medical so many of them have to go without and give it all to the minorities.

Can you imagine this?

And under Dem majorities with Dem majority judges, people can whistle blow but no ones does a thing. No justices every indict.

So this failure of medical and evil version of it could be foisted on the world for decades.




And by the world, many of us who can see, realize that Europe, especially Germany, UK and Scandavian countries, even France had first rate medical, good economies, good businesses, before suddenly AND INVASION OCCURRED.

And they attacked Canada too with their invasions.

My belief is that they are using these migrants to destroy the medical,and economies of the best nations to try and get everyone done to desperation and join the US in the worst most exploitive evil system going. So they look like the best again.

So this would have been exported everywhere for decades, though its completely random results on all the tests, within a few years.

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By the way, her eyes, and Hillary's: Sanpaku eyes. The eyes of a psychopath.

And it isn't it strange, she actually looks like Hillary's daughter. She looks like she's Chelsea's sister.

Very alarming predator eyes.

Here.

[link to i.pinimg.com (secure)]


You can do a search and see it. Its the eyes of a very empowered predator. I believe demon possessed or a demon walk in. Kind of Raptor like or dominating Reptile.

Here is a pic of Chelsea and Elizabeth together:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

They look like sisters.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Hillary and Obama for sure, as I saw them on tv. Obvious possession. I could see it in their eyes. These others look similar! Sanpaku eyes, interesting.
 Quoting: bigD111


I have seen these kinds of "eyes" in the TV specials on
psychopaths and serial killers.

However, Elizabeth used this "wide-eyed look" as a
manipulation to "hypnotize" her audience or whomever she
was "pitching." WATCH THE VIDEOS--you can see her expression
change when she's dealing with explaining her product "The
Edison mini-lab/computer" versus when she is just interviewed
in a calm or casual setting. The "EVIL EYE" look of someone
who is madly deranged doesn't chenge that much because it
is "hard-wired" into their personality...while Elizabeth
Holmes eye contact, her deep voice, etc. was something
called "an AFFECT" (that is, she just "put it on like a
mask" and was not hardwired into her personality in my opinion.

Her "sin" in doing this wasn't demon possession, it was
in the expectation she would be taken "more seriously" than
a "blond valley girl...with a new medical idea!"

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I am also curious about the reason media exposed her. But, sort of think they didn't want to bring too much heat, after all, many of us know that the whole Trump Russian Collusion crapola was to draw attention away from the liberals who were up to their eyeballs with collusion and crimes, ie they really counted on Hillary winning.

I think throwing her to the wolves is basically because Trump won and they really really really wanted to tie up some lose ends here.


Just think what would have happened to the whole nation and medical, the ponzy scam no one would have toppled, if Trump had not won the election.

I believe they got orders to cut her down, so they wouldn't get into that investigation against the liberals and expose the whole Obama care.

Its already evil. Obama drafted a plan to take the middle class working class in the US, primarily white in numbers, raise their medical so many of them have to go without and give it all to the minorities.

Can you imagine this?

And under Dem majorities with Dem majority judges, people can whistle blow but no ones does a thing. No justices every indict.

So this failure of medical and evil version of it could be foisted on the world for decades.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


I think Trump is changing this. I sure hope so! He has appointed quite a number of judges, and more to come!
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By the way, her eyes, and Hillary's: Sanpaku eyes. The eyes of a psychopath.

And it isn't it strange, she actually looks like Hillary's daughter. She looks like she's Chelsea's sister.

Very alarming predator eyes.

Here.

[link to i.pinimg.com (secure)]


You can do a search and see it. Its the eyes of a very empowered predator. I believe demon possessed or a demon walk in. Kind of Raptor like or dominating Reptile.

Here is a pic of Chelsea and Elizabeth together:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

They look like sisters.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Hillary and Obama for sure, as I saw them on tv. Obvious possession. I could see it in their eyes. These others look similar! Sanpaku eyes, interesting.
 Quoting: bigD111


I have seen these kinds of "eyes" in the TV specials on
psychopaths and serial killers.

However, Elizabeth used this "wide-eyed look" as a
manipulation to "hypnotize" her audience or whomever she
was "pitching." WATCH THE VIDEOS--you can see her expression
change when she's dealing with explaining her product "The
Edison mini-lab/computer" versus when she is just interviewed
in a calm or casual setting. The "EVIL EYE" look of someone
who is madly deranged doesn't chenge that much because it
is "hard-wired" into their personality...while Elizabeth
Holmes eye contact, her deep voice, etc. was something
called "an AFFECT" (that is, she just "put it on like a
mask" and was not hardwired into her personality in my opinion.

Her "sin" in doing this wasn't demon possession, it was
in the expectation she would be taken "more seriously" than
a "blond valley girl...with a new medical idea!"

cheers
O'sCookie
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Yes, agreed. Clintons manipulate like hell too! But that isn't a wide eyed look, its domination.

THis is a wide eyed look:

[link to zidbits.com (secure)]

Scroll down to the Asian girl, but could have searched for much longer to find a Nordic look, its the baby doll innocent look, not the evil raptor look.

I always notice people's eyes as both a sensitive and an artist who focused on people and likenesses for years.

I don't think she's a lone wolf manipulator.

And I truly think it may be that she is an illegitimate Clinton, just because there is a strong resemblance especially face and eyes.

I felt something was off when I saw her childhood photo's and that parents were working for government.

This was a very bad goal of the Dems.

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By the way, her eyes, and Hillary's: Sanpaku eyes. The eyes of a psychopath.

And it isn't it strange, she actually looks like Hillary's daughter. She looks like she's Chelsea's sister.

Very alarming predator eyes.

Here.

[link to i.pinimg.com (secure)]


You can do a search and see it. Its the eyes of a very empowered predator. I believe demon possessed or a demon walk in. Kind of Raptor like or dominating Reptile.

Here is a pic of Chelsea and Elizabeth together:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

They look like sisters.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Hillary and Obama for sure, as I saw them on tv. Obvious possession. I could see it in their eyes. These others look similar! Sanpaku eyes, interesting.
 Quoting: bigD111


I have seen these kinds of "eyes" in the TV specials on
psychopaths and serial killers.

However, Elizabeth used this "wide-eyed look" as a
manipulation to "hypnotize" her audience or whomever she
was "pitching." WATCH THE VIDEOS--you can see her expression
change when she's dealing with explaining her product "The
Edison mini-lab/computer" versus when she is just interviewed
in a calm or casual setting. The "EVIL EYE" look of someone
who is madly deranged doesn't chenge that much because it
is "hard-wired" into their personality...while Elizabeth
Holmes eye contact, her deep voice, etc. was something
called "an AFFECT" (that is, she just "put it on like a
mask" and was not hardwired into her personality in my opinion.

Her "sin" in doing this wasn't demon possession, it was
in the expectation she would be taken "more seriously" than
a "blond valley girl...with a new medical idea!"

cheers
O'sCookie
 Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie


Yes, agreed. Clintons manipulate like hell too! But that isn't a wide eyed look, its domination.

THis is a wide eyed look:

[link to zidbits.com (secure)]

Scroll down to the Asian girl, but could have searched for much longer to find a Nordic look, its the baby doll innocent look, not the evil raptor look.

I always notice people's eyes as both a sensitive and an artist who focused on people and likenesses for years.

I don't think she's a lone wolf manipulator.

And I truly think it may be that she is an illegitimate Clinton, just because there is a strong resemblance especially face and eyes.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


Appreciate your point of view. The idea she may be
related to the Clintons is a little "out there..." but
hey, we can all see Bill creeping around the Stanford
dormitory back in the day (ewwwww....)

I call this: "Chelsea Wants to Help" (and the idea
that there is insane pressure on the kids of "high rollers"
like Chelsea had to deal with in the Clintons as well
as Elizabeth Holme's upbringing under the pressure of
movers and shakers in politics like her own parents. She
was GROOMED to "change things"--in her own unique style
--and she almost did. What remains is her criminal trial
which is a sad legacy for a talented and idealistic young
person.

:ChelseaWants2Hel:
"...And, Chelsea Wants to Help."


ONE THING WE WILL ALL HEAR ABOUT in Elizabeth Holme's
coming criminal trial (if we allowed a front row seat
and it isn't just brushed under the political rug because
it is so inflammatory to so many involved...) is her
STATE OF MIND.


Not that I would expect her to plead "insanity"...maybe
pleading being the "crusader" would be more accurate with
her BELIEF in something she wished to see happen out-pace
the REALITY OF WHAT SHE COULD ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH. Even
the video called her "...a true believer" and in my opinion
just THIS acknowledgment tells us that there was--at least
on her part (not on the part of greedy investors, etc.)
--wasn't CRIMINAL INTENT!

Just sayin...

cheers
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I watched part of it. This documentary looks really good.

I'm in the same industry and can relate to that Engineer that was told to make the machine small... lol.

I deal with this all the time. The project I'm working on now is very High Profile, but I can't talk about it other than it's another Venture Capital deal.

We're all doing our best to make the product a success and not have it turn into another 'Vaporware' story.

So far so good.

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Look. Any chick who alters her voice into the barritone range deserves to be dumped.
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Look. Any chick who alters her voice into the barritone range deserves to be dumped.
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You really don't think other women--especially in an
all male dominated company--work on their "affect" to
be taken more seriously?

Seems like a simple thing to warrant such a fate! :lol1:

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Look. Any chick who alters her voice into the barritone range deserves to be dumped.
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You really don't think other women--especially in an
all male dominated company--work on their "affect" to
be taken more seriously?

Seems like a simple thing to warrant such a fate! :lol1:

cheers
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You probably are correct. However, she is so wierd that she might be from outer space...or...a tranny gasp


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I watched part of it. This documentary looks really good.

I'm in the same industry and can relate to that Engineer that was told to make the machine small... lol.

I deal with this all the time. The project I'm working on now is very High Profile, but I can't talk about it other than it's another Venture Capital deal.

We're all doing our best to make the product a success and not have it turn into another 'Vaporware' story.

So far so good.

Thanks Cookie!
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Yes...I have been at the "drawing board" in industry
(back in the days of Tom Cruise's "Risky Business")
to miniaturize an invention!

Worked for a few years in R & D at Hewlett Packard Co.

We did such a great job miniaturizing that some of us
even lost our jobs to the computers who took over the
design generation! THAT was a shock! I remember when the
inside of computer chips were laid out on a film on a
light table with dozens of people bent over it with
magnifying glasses checking the circuits! Now...that was a rough job!

But computer-aided design was the death-knell to many
jobs in electronics. Can just imagine the changes in the
past 20 years!

Good luck with your project! Thanks for your post!

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Look. Any chick who alters her voice into the barritone range deserves to be dumped.
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You really don't think other women--especially in an
all male dominated company--work on their "affect" to
be taken more seriously?

Seems like a simple thing to warrant such a fate! :lol1:

cheers
O'sCookie
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You probably are correct. However, she is so wierd that she might be from outer space...or...a tranny gasp


cheers. Back at ya!
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Now...THERE is a creative "take!"

Love how your mind works!

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O.K...

I'm seeing that pretty much I am the "lone voice" in
the wind here, where trying to suggest that just MAYBE...
MAYBE there was an orchestrated plan by BIG PHARMA/BIG LABS/
OR BIG MEDICINE to eliminate her/Theranos as any form of competition.


This goes so far as to even MAKE "THERANOS" AN "EXAMPLE"
for any future venture capitalists out there who may wish to
take on the "big boy's medical turf!" Certainly, a $9 billion
company doesn't float to the top of the stock market on
a TOTAL SCAM (sorry, I don't believe that would happen)
...there would have had to have been at least
some MARGINAL SUCCESS with the Theranos "Edison machine"
--as well as Elizabeth Holme's own VISION that would carry
her into these mostly male dominated circles to effect a
challenge.

Below is one video I found which took apart some of
the Holmes interviews to show "manipulation or outright
lying"...but ALSO LISTEN TO WHAT SHE SAYS! The first
interview she reports her belief (and probably well-founded)
that "BIG LABS" (i.e. BIG MEDICINE) was attacking her
company just on its "AUDACITY TO CHALLENGE THEIR INDUSTRY!"


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
(I personally feel this video--and dozens like them
on the internet right now--are an unfair analysis of
a very complicated personality.) For example, the narrator
claims flat-out that the Edison machine "never worked."
In fact, it DID WORK...they just couldn't make the machine
perform over 200 medical tests which was a very BAD
MARKETING DECISION to claim. That the Edison could even
successfully succeed in finding HIV/Aides in one simple
test would be revolutionary enough. So WHY claim such a
huge range? And then there's his claim "people could go
to their pharmacy and have the tests done"...when in fact,
Theranos only reached a "trial stage" with Walgreens and
ONLY in some Arizona locations. So...ALSO take this video
with a grain of salt. UDECIDE!

As I have said in the intro material...THERE ARE NO
POSITIVE VOICES of any merit that take Elizabeth Holme's
SIDE of the argument. Doesn't that seem ODD? And what
is the LEVEL OF MONEY THAT IS BEING CHALLENGED by the
Theranos product?

Get this...A 75 BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY revolves around
"Big lab" and "Big Medicibe" which Elizabeth had the
"stones" to challenge! That is a brave girl, you guys!

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By the way, her eyes, and Hillary's: Sanpaku eyes. The eyes of a psychopath.

And it isn't it strange, she actually looks like Hillary's daughter. She looks like she's Chelsea's sister.

Very alarming predator eyes.

Here.

[link to i.pinimg.com (secure)]


You can do a search and see it. Its the eyes of a very empowered predator. I believe demon possessed or a demon walk in. Kind of Raptor like or dominating Reptile.

Here is a pic of Chelsea and Elizabeth together:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

They look like sisters.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


and she sounds like a man to me when she speaks
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By the way, her eyes, and Hillary's: Sanpaku eyes. The eyes of a psychopath.

And it isn't it strange, she actually looks like Hillary's daughter. She looks like she's Chelsea's sister.

Very alarming predator eyes.

Here.

[link to i.pinimg.com (secure)]


You can do a search and see it. Its the eyes of a very empowered predator. I believe demon possessed or a demon walk in. Kind of Raptor like or dominating Reptile.

Here is a pic of Chelsea and Elizabeth together:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

They look like sisters.
 Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn


and she sounds like a man to me when she speaks
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Here is one article I was able to find that speaks
to the lower voice tones assuring "success." And,
apparently there is some evidence by new studies that
this is very possible. Maybe Elizabeth Holmes will start
a "trend." Wear black...carry a LOW VOICE. Might be a
good substitute for that old saying: "Walk softly...
carry a BIG STICK." Somehow I think it could catch on!:lol1:
[link to www.lifehack.org (secure)]


We did talk about her baratone voice...it is accepted
now that it is just something Holmes "put on" to be
taken more seriously in her mainly male-dominated
industry. Whether or NOT that worked for her, or if
people she was attempting "to charm" were charmed for
THAT reason is still a question. It could very well be
that people who met her KNEW she was putting on an
affected voice and just ignored it as a personality
"quirk." Anyways...you can find some videos on that
aspect of the Holmes story if you like.

Years ago a Hollywood actress, June Alyson, had a deep
baratone voice due to damage to her vocal chords. It
turns out she had surgery on it to correct the "affect"
and people hated it and it effected her popularity.
You just can't win EITHER WAY, it would seem! :lol1:

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