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Is Bob Lazar telling the truth?

 
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I used to write him off as a bullshitter, but if he is lying then he would have to be the king of all bullshitters. He seems so genuine even after all these years. The more I learn about it the more I think he is telling the truth. What say you?

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I used to write him off as a bullshitter, but if he is lying then he would have to be the king of all bullshitters. He seems so genuine even after all these years. The more I learn about it the more I think he is telling the truth. What say you?

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ask trinity runs alot of polls why i dunno
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Re: Is Bob Lazar telling the truth?
No. Seems he is starting to commercialize his story recently and it smells bad.
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I think it's a mixture of both. I'm sure they fed him lots of disinfo while he was there. For all we know his mind was fucked with when he left, partially erased, new memories inserted.

He might not even know what its true and what isn't himself.
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Based on my respect for George Knapp alone, I sided WITH Lazar's story as being true.

But the fact remains that he lied about his two master's degrees, and can provide no evidence of any form that he was at either institution.

The last raid fiasco shows Lazar massaged the dates and reasons to promote his own crediblity - but he was caught out lying.

Then there is the mystery 'suicide' of his first wife, and how Lazar was off in Vegas marrying the next one under a false name - all with the clear intention of financially benefitting from the sale of the first wife's assets.

Did Bob kill his first wife for financial gain and make it look like a suicide? He sure knew she was going to be dead by the time he was in Vegas.

The big question for those of us who actually RESEARCH all sides of this case - is whether George Knapp was duped, or whether he is a willing participant in a massive fraud?

Maybe time will tell.

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Re: Is Bob Lazar telling the truth?
Based on my respect for George Knapp alone, I sided WITH Lazar's story as being true.

But the fact remains that he lied about his two master's degrees, and can provide no evidence of any form that he was at either institution.

The last raid fiasco shows Lazar massaged the dates and reasons to promote his own crediblity - but he was caught out lying.

Then there is the mystery 'suicide' of his first wife, and how Lazar was off in Vegas marrying the next one under a false name - all with the clear intention of financially benefitting from the sale of the first wife's assets.

Did Bob kill his first wife for financial gain and make it look like a suicide? He sure knew she was going to be dead by the time he was in Vegas.

The big question for those of us who actually RESEARCH all sides of this case - is whether George Knapp was duped, or whether he is a willing participant in a massive fraud?

Maybe time will tell.
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trump-HRYK
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Re: Is Bob Lazar telling the truth?
seems like he is telling what he knows...but he does not know all of it and assumes a lot...like he assumes evoluto is true and so aliens are probably more advanced due to this theory... he also seems to assume "aliens" are from other planets rather than other dimensions, which is not what the experts conclude... and he has no notion of the spiritual aspect to ufo/aliens:

yt:Ancient Aliens Debunked



“Human beings are under the control of a strange force that bends them in absurd ways, forcing them to play a role in a bizarre game of deception.”
--Dr. Jacques Vallee
“The UFOnauts and the demons of past days are probably identical.”
--Dr. Pierre Guerin
“The UFO phenomenon simply does not behave like extraterrestrial visitors. It actually molds itself in order to fit a given culture.”
--John Ankenberg
“One theory that can no longer be taken seriously is that UFOs are interstellar spaceships.”
--Sir Arthur C. Clarke
“The evidence suggests that this is a program.”
--Prof. David Jacobs, Temple Univ.



Hundreds of cases of ufo/abductees calling on Jesus to end their abuse have been documented.
yt:Unholy Communion: The Fourth Kind Unveiled - Joseph Jordan and Guy Malone
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I watched the new doc in Netflix a day ago.

I had not watched anything about Lazar in several years but remembered the story quite well from 1989, and had read about his story and some of the conflicting lack of evidence from time to time in forums or web articles.

The guy still come across as like he believes his history, so one might be right by saying he is not lying, but he still can be either victim of self delusion or under some kind of mental control, but I don't think he is purposefully lying, just that he believes his story and for him is real.

For me, element 115 makes no sense, even if 9 physic experts in the world say "It could exist" in stable form, the most stable isotope manufactured to date has a half life of 0,65 seconds, so finding an "island of stability" for it, and being able to sythetize it in such form, IMO is unlikely.

Lazar is a beyond weird character on its own. What in the world was he thinking when he decided to take part on funding a brothel, as is said in the doc? The denial of Los Alamos of his working there when he appeared in a phone directory and a press release as a Los Alamos employee, is also weird.

The story is too contaminated, IMHO he has been used as a disinfo tool, but that fact alone is telling that there is much interest in keeping the public confused about these issues, which is intriguing in an on itself.
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Re: Is Bob Lazar telling the truth?
No way. No one from that late 80's early 90's era should be taken seriously.

Except maybe Carla Turner, who said the whole thing was a government hoax and was promptly cancered.
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sorry bob,i trusted you snd you sold us out.last one left of the old eighties crew.i was loyal until you signed up w aa.i wave to your sinking ship.gooooodbyyyyg!....
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Re: Is Bob Lazar telling the truth?
Based on my respect for George Knapp alone, I sided WITH Lazar's story as being true.

But the fact remains that he lied about his two master's degrees, and can provide no evidence of any form that he was at either institution.

The last raid fiasco shows Lazar massaged the dates and reasons to promote his own crediblity - but he was caught out lying.

Then there is the mystery 'suicide' of his first wife, and how Lazar was off in Vegas marrying the next one under a false name - all with the clear intention of financially benefitting from the sale of the first wife's assets.

Did Bob kill his first wife for financial gain and make it look like a suicide? He sure knew she was going to be dead by the time he was in Vegas.

The big question for those of us who actually RESEARCH all sides of this case - is whether George Knapp was duped, or whether he is a willing participant in a massive fraud?

Maybe time will tell.
 Quoting: nexuseditor


Thanks for your input. I did not know that. I think he is a tool of disinfo and under some kind of mental control. He might be telling what he believes to be truth but still is what he was led to believe, and thus wrong or at least innacurate.

The whole case is intriguing, but I think disinfo is the only thing coming out of this. Contamination of ideas and deceit is what this ongoing disinfo campaign with Lazar as centerpiece has achieved in all these years.
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Re: Is Bob Lazar telling the truth?
I used to write him off as a bullshitter, but if he is lying then he would have to be the king of all bullshitters. He seems so genuine even after all these years. The more I learn about it the more I think he is telling the truth. What say you?

hiding
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I watched his earlier interviews, and his latest netflix doc, the guys story is 100% the same.. No variance in anything he said.. Liars and bull shitters have a hard time telling a lie with the same details one day to the next.. This guys story has not wavered in 30 years..
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Re: Is Bob Lazar telling the truth?
The biggest way to tell is by asking: What has he gained from all of this? Did he write a bunch of books and get money? No. Did he star in tv and film? Yes...but only recently and he donated the paltry few thousand he made. He built a business for himself and has made a living with it, which has nothing to do with aliens or noteriety.

The dude was on Joe Rogan and acted just like I would...wanting to go home and be done with it. The annoying freak who directed that film who was next to him at JRE was poking and prodding him and I wanted Bob to just leave. I might have if I were him but who knows.

So to summarize, what exactly did Bob get for telling his experience? He got a much harder life and freaks showing up day and night at his house. If he is a con-man with a 180+ IQ and only average lifestyle, he is a really bad con-man.
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Two ships over my house: 0530 hours Zulu,3 Feb 2019

photographed from back door.

Saw disc shape ship hovering 2 miles down range, altitude approx 1500 ft. mid June, 2019

[link to ibb.co (secure)]
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Re: Is Bob Lazar telling the truth?
Based on my respect for George Knapp alone, I sided WITH Lazar's story as being true.

But the fact remains that he lied about his two master's degrees, and can provide no evidence of any form that he was at either institution.

The last raid fiasco shows Lazar massaged the dates and reasons to promote his own crediblity - but he was caught out lying.

Then there is the mystery 'suicide' of his first wife, and how Lazar was off in Vegas marrying the next one under a false name - all with the clear intention of financially benefitting from the sale of the first wife's assets.

Did Bob kill his first wife for financial gain and make it look like a suicide? He sure knew she was going to be dead by the time he was in Vegas.

The big question for those of us who actually RESEARCH all sides of this case - is whether George Knapp was duped, or whether he is a willing participant in a massive fraud?

Maybe time will tell.
 Quoting: nexuseditor


George Knapp recently confessed that he's invested $$$ in TTSA.
Tom delong is a freemason.

ZERO credibility.
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Two ships over my house: 0530 hours Zulu,3 Feb 2019

photographed from back door.

Saw disc shape ship hovering 2 miles down range, altitude approx 1500 ft. mid June, 2019

[link to ibb.co (secure)]
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Looks like one of ours..tr3b
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Saw something unbelievable once.. three .90 degree turns in a second or so...mentioned to a nav y brat..a special one...
response'probably one of ours'.

Sick of all of the religious opinions based on nothing but dogma. You guys don't count. Only evidence and research counts and most of you are too tied to your churches to want to think. If you did, you would leave your churches!

Time to grow up.
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Saw something unbelievable once.. three .90 degree turns in a second or so...mentioned to a nav y brat..a special one...
response'probably one of ours'.

Sick of all of the religious opinions based on nothing but dogma. You guys don't count. Only evidence and research counts and most of you are too tied to your churches to want to think. If you did, you would leave your churches!

Time to grow up.
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The only way they are ours is if we figured out how they work and can produce the fuel. The fuel is the problem. We do not have that here and we can't make enough to do anything but air shows. It would take the energy of the entire earth (sun) to make the fuel to get to another system.

We are stuck here on purpose. Get yourselves used to that.
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I met him and sat down and spoke with him about lots of things several years ago. His business that sold pyrotechnic chemicals was raided and they took most of his records. He was letting everyone that he could contact know what happened. A stroke of luck happened that we were both in the same town when he called me. We ended up meeting for lunch and spoke about lots of things. We both had an internist in fireworks, Corvettes and UFOs. I Told him I was not worried about them knowing what chemicals I bought because I had a fireworks manufacture permit and had to keep a record of what I bought and where it was stored or how it was used. I had to report things quarterly or yearly depending on which permit I had at the time. in business or hobby.

Back to Bob, he was a very smart man and if he was lying about things he was the type person that could convince themselves of things and I do not think he was that type person. He did not hesitate when answering a question and things he talked to me about I later saw him saying the same things in interviews not word for word like someone that had memorized a script. He would tell the same story but in different ways
I sent him a link to this website when I 1st found it many moons ago and he replied that he visited here from time to time. But this was back 10-12 years or more ago. If I can find an archive of that email I will post a screenshot of it with some info like his email at the time blacked out. I have used the same main email address since 1999
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I used to write him off as a bullshitter, but if he is lying then he would have to be the king of all bullshitters. He seems so genuine even after all these years. The more I learn about it the more I think he is telling the truth. What say you?

hiding
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Look Bob claims to have been a physicist.


WHERE ARE THE FORMULAS BOB. DON'T GIVE US YOUR CHILDISH DRAWINGS OF THE CRAFT, SHOW US THE FORMULAS.
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I used to write him off as a bullshitter, but if he is lying then he would have to be the king of all bullshitters. He seems so genuine even after all these years. The more I learn about it the more I think he is telling the truth. What say you?

hiding
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Look Bob claims to have been a physicist.


WHERE ARE THE FORMULAS BOB. DON'T GIVE US YOUR CHILDISH DRAWINGS OF THE CRAFT, SHOW US THE FORMULAS.
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There are no formulas for science that does not exist yet, or ever on this planet. We cannot create stable 115 because it does not exist here. Get used to the fact you are on a prison planet.
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If the missing degree theory is right, he could have just been an assistant or a lab tech. I feel like he might have been overstating his actual position there.

If he was there, most of his coworkers from that time are probably retired by now, so why doesn't one of them come out publicly and back him up?
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Saw something unbelievable once.. three .90 degree turns in a second or so...mentioned to a nav y brat..a special one...
response'probably one of ours'.

Sick of all of the religious opinions based on nothing but dogma. You guys don't count. Only evidence and research counts and most of you are too tied to your churches to want to think. If you did, you would leave your churches!

Time to grow up.
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Maybe you'd be surprised at the depth and breadth of the actual hard scientific research the Catholic church is engaged in. Including astrophysics and SETI. No dogma there, just pure scientific endeavour.
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Re: Is Bob Lazar telling the truth?
I watched the new doc in Netflix a day ago.

I had not watched anything about Lazar in several years but remembered the story quite well from 1989, and had read about his story and some of the conflicting lack of evidence from time to time in forums or web articles.

The guy still come across as like he believes his history, so one might be right by saying he is not lying, but he still can be either victim of self delusion or under some kind of mental control, but I don't think he is purposefully lying, just that he believes his story and for him is real.

For me, element 115 makes no sense, even if 9 physic experts in the world say "It could exist" in stable form, the most stable isotope manufactured to date has a half life of 0,65 seconds, so finding an "island of stability" for it, and being able to sythetize it in such form, IMO is unlikely.

Lazar is a beyond weird character on its own. What in the world was he thinking when he decided to take part on funding a brothel, as is said in the doc? The denial of Los Alamos of his working there when he appeared in a phone directory and a press release as a Los Alamos employee, is also weird.

The story is too contaminated, IMHO he has been used as a disinfo tool, but that fact alone is telling that there is much interest in keeping the public confused about these issues, which is intriguing in an on itself.
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He didn't fund a brothel he wrote a computer database for billing etc he pled guilty to funding a brothel at the trial to get a reduced sentence even the judge told him not to do that but the FBI were applying pressure.
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Based on my respect for George Knapp alone, I sided WITH Lazar's story as being true.

But the fact remains that he lied about his two master's degrees, and can provide no evidence of any form that he was at either institution.

The last raid fiasco shows Lazar massaged the dates and reasons to promote his own crediblity - but he was caught out lying.

Then there is the mystery 'suicide' of his first wife, and how Lazar was off in Vegas marrying the next one under a false name - all with the clear intention of financially benefitting from the sale of the first wife's assets.

Did Bob kill his first wife for financial gain and make it look like a suicide? He sure knew she was going to be dead by the time he was in Vegas.

The big question for those of us who actually RESEARCH all sides of this case - is whether George Knapp was duped, or whether he is a willing participant in a massive fraud?

Maybe time will tell.
 Quoting: nexuseditor


I wish u, or someone could interview him and ask these real questions! I would like to see his responses to all these.
Would be a hot article!

I also would like to ask him about if he saw an alien or not? (I remember him saying: you will never know what its like till you see your first alien or something?, did he have his memory erased? and all of those other questions, as far as "Maybe time will tell." well it hasn't told us jack shit since he came out 30 years ago so why should it tell us anything now?
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The biggest way to tell is by asking: What has he gained from all of this? Did he write a bunch of books and get money? No. Did he star in tv and film? Yes...but only recently and he donated the paltry few thousand he made. He built a business for himself and has made a living with it, which has nothing to do with aliens or noteriety.

The dude was on Joe Rogan and acted just like I would...wanting to go home and be done with it. The annoying freak who directed that film who was next to him at JRE was poking and prodding him and I wanted Bob to just leave. I might have if I were him but who knows.

So to summarize, what exactly did Bob get for telling his experience? He got a much harder life and freaks showing up day and night at his house. If he is a con-man with a 180+ IQ and only average lifestyle, he is a really bad con-man.
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We don't know that, and he could be getting his paycheck from the 'company' we know he was in a financial hardships, something was sus in J.R.E he really paid his own flight ticket to go to a podcast? thats just dumb if he didn't want to talk anyway?
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Based on my respect for George Knapp alone, I sided WITH Lazar's story as being true.

But the fact remains that he lied about his two master's degrees, and can provide no evidence of any form that he was at either institution.

The last raid fiasco shows Lazar massaged the dates and reasons to promote his own crediblity - but he was caught out lying.

Then there is the mystery 'suicide' of his first wife, and how Lazar was off in Vegas marrying the next one under a false name - all with the clear intention of financially benefitting from the sale of the first wife's assets.

Did Bob kill his first wife for financial gain and make it look like a suicide? He sure knew she was going to be dead by the time he was in Vegas.

The big question for those of us who actually RESEARCH all sides of this case - is whether George Knapp was duped, or whether he is a willing participant in a massive fraud?

Maybe time will tell.
 Quoting: nexuseditor


George Knapp recently confessed that he's invested $$$ in TTSA.
Tom delong is a freemason.

ZERO credibility.
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Tom delong's an idiot.
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Saw something unbelievable once.. three .90 degree turns in a second or so...mentioned to a nav y brat..a special one...
response'probably one of ours'.

Sick of all of the religious opinions based on nothing but dogma. You guys don't count. Only evidence and research counts and most of you are too tied to your churches to want to think. If you did, you would leave your churches!

Time to grow up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76532264


The only way they are ours is if we figured out how they work and can produce the fuel. The fuel is the problem. We do not have that here and we can't make enough to do anything but air shows. It would take the energy of the entire earth (sun) to make the fuel to get to another system.

We are stuck here on purpose. Get yourselves used to that.
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Viktor Shauberger was quoted by Callum Coats as saying that all the U.F.O's buzzin around were from earth and he was one of its originators, but NO ELEMENT 115!!!

Element 115 seals off the alien question as David hatcher childress says, it means we can never make one, they are all alien because we can't have 115!
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Yes he’s being truthful as is David Huggins.
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Yes he’s being truthful as is David Huggins.
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Based on my respect for George Knapp alone, I sided WITH Lazar's story as being true.

(...)

The big question for those of us who actually RESEARCH all sides of this case - is whether George Knapp was duped, or whether he is a willing participant in a massive fraud?

Maybe time will tell.
 Quoting: nexuseditor


It brought Knapp world fame as an investigative journalist. I think that he kept playing 'his part' but without ever confirming that to anyone, maybe not even to himself. - I like Knapp's work with David Paulides.





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