Trump was demanding justice for the Jeffrey Epstein victims in 2012

'Sounds like' and hard evidence are two different things. Hillary deleted 33k emails and smashed evidence.. even though that evidence resides elsewhere the fact remains those primary sources are gone.

Big difference between your 'a$$uming' and fact.

TDS is strong with you.

It was reported by members and AC's here today (other threads) that Barr had recused himself from Epstein case in his senate hearing. That's not exactly true, He recused today and mentioned he might in the hearings.

"If Trump or His Administration Wanted to Interfere in the Case, Could They?

Yes. Attorney General William Barr could legally do so and has repeatedly shown a willingness to put loyalty to Trump above all else — though he did tell Congress he might recuse himself from Epstein-related cases since he worked for one of the firms behind Epstein’s controversial plea deal.

On Monday, Bloomberg reported that Barr is reviewing whether or not he needs to recuse himself from the Epstein investigation. He has already recused himself from matters relating to Alex Acosta, a fellow member of Trump’s cabinet.

And yes, Trump could pardon Epstein if he were so inclined."

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"For some people at the ends of the political spectrum on social media, Epstein’s arrest has played out like a partisan Rorschach test. Many right-wing personalities and members of the MAGA crowd have speculated that Epstein will name or otherwise expose and ruin Bill Clinton. The former president, who has himself been credibly accused of sexual misconduct and was friends with Epstein, has been previously scrutinized for the numerous trips he took on the financier’s private plane.

Accusations of sex crimes toward children have also been a central focus of some of the most bizarre (and contagious) conspiracy theories on the far right. And the fact that Robert Mueller led the FBI at the time of the original charges against Epstein has not gone unnoticed by those who still see the former special counsel as one of the president’s deep-state enemies. Speaking of which, there’s a Comey involved too:"

As for the trash being written about Comey’s daughter being part of the Epstein case: Her career at SDNY has nothing to do with her dad. She started there before he was fired as FBI Dir. She’s one of the most talented prosecutors I’ve worked with (& I’m not alone in that view). - Mimi Rocah tweet

Meanwhile, some #resistance diehards have suggested that Epstein’s arrest will lead to the surefire end, or at least the surefire justification for the end, of Trump’s presidency (thus succeeding where all of the previous scandals involving Trump have failed).

I'm seeing lots of folks on the left and the right who seem absolutely sure that Epstein is going to give up their political enemies. Hot tip: he's just as likely to give up your allies. noah Schactman tweet"
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less than 50% - long article

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And Mueller was unable to bring conspiracy charges against thd Trumps because "evidence was destroyed" ... your point being?

Trumps ... Clintons ... same sketchy and criminal shite, different piles

ATTENTION: FOR ALL THE ANTI-TRUMPER SHILLS OUT THERE.

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DOCUMENTATION OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THE CASE.

I'll sum it up for you. Quickly.

1. PER EPSTEIN PLEA BARGING (WHICH IS DOCUMENTED IN THAT TWITTER FEED AND YOU CAN READ FOR YOURSELF) HE WAS NEVER REQUIRED TO TALK TO THE FBI.

Yet, per the released FBI FILES, they stated that he DID talk to Muellers FBI at some point. Undocumented or yet to have been released. AKA, a side deal.

2. Epstein signed his plea bargain before all the victims had the opportunity to speak.

3. Epsteins lawyers were harassing and trying to silence the victims throughout his case.

4. Emails (SHOWN IN THAT FEED) confirm that A. The FBI still hadn't interviewed all the victims, nor seen all the physical evidence by the time Epstein signed his deal. It showed that they were trying to make this a federal case, and the FBI was NOT working with them.

5. Acostas letter he wrote in 2011 in regard to the case confirmed that evidence was "not known" and that victims didnt come out till after the plea agreement was signed.

6. The Miami Herald did its own investigation and found that, in fact, EPSTEIN TALKED TO THE FEDERAL FBI and was a "key witness" in bringing down 2 hedge fund managers, unrelated to Epstein's case.

To sum it up:
In order to avoid federal prosecution for his case, Epstein ratted out Hedge-Fund executives to Muellers FBI and got his ass out of serious trouble. All the while, suppressing his victims from coming out.

Bill Clinton is in that ^ article also.

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HERE IS THE TWITTER THREAD. DUNNO WHY THE LINK ABOVE DIDNT WORK.
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"6. The Miami Herald did its own investigation and found that, in fact, EPSTEIN TALKED TO THE FEDERAL FBI and was a "key witness" in bringing down 2 hedge fund managers, unrelated to Epstein's case."

Turning in other big time folk for a lesser deal - plausible enough. All this needs to come out though so a thorough understanding of why things happened the way they did.

Due process needs to be complete this time - not all the smoke/mirrors that is so common.

I have to wonder - does anyone ever think to themselves 'If this were to go public would it hold up to scrutiny?'.

SMH

Exactly. He gaves Muellers FBI information on some other case they were investigating and so he walked. Muellers FBI would rather take down executives, than go after sick, demented pedophiles that has known ties to political leaders.

And like I said the other day, Muellers set to testify about the Russian shit on the 17th. Coincidence?

Trump is outsmarting all these fools.

I wonder what Trump and the Queen talked about. She was all smiles with Trump. Anyone remember QE2 refusing to abdicate the throne to her hubby in the not-to-distant past? Makes one go 'Hmmz'.

Interesting times..

Thank you for posting Copper.

I reposted it to Farcebook with no problem.

But, when I tried to post it to twatter, this is the message I got.

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Crazy amount of censorship going on regarding the Epstein arrest. Googly is in full on redirect mode attempting to associate Trump with Epstein.

This is going to be a many tentacled salacious clusterfrick as people turn on each other. It's going to take a huge bus to handle all those thrown under it.

Karma is a bitch ain't it.

Des

Thats our Trump - as soon as he found out - banned him. Not surprising Twatter is censoring. I expect it from them so only use mine for business no personal posts beyond business related.

Neither Trump nor Mar a Lago have confirmed that at all. Ask him or whoever his new attorney is.

Best defemse is an offense, right? If he had dirt on Trump, Trump was doubling down, playing hardball.

Hey, remember that time when Steve Bannon went to Epstein's NYC mansion?

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That is why Trump's man Acosta got such a sweetheart deal for Epstein.

Prince Andrew and the royal family will not be harmed - only Epstein gets thrown into the fire. That's why Trump's DOJ didn't rescind the original plea deal for Epstein, as it protects potential co-conspirators from prosecution.

That means with Bill Clinton today claiming only 4 trips on the Lolita Express, and the following revealing 26 times... he would get off scot-free.

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"Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender’s infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the “Lolita Express” -- even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flights, according to records obtained by FoxNews.com."

Not beneath a news outlet to say it was unconfirmed. Its an easy way to take some wind out the sail. Them post the retraction a month later.

Pure speculation. The appeals courts are likely going to find the entire plea deal null and void. Now what do you have?

They will do no such thing. The original plea deal will stand while the new federal charges will go forward and Epstein will go down - alone. The original plea deal assures no co-conspirators get touched, even as names of 'involvement' get dropped to keep the circus going for the gawking public. In the end, the co-conspirators worked to throw Epstein upon the altar in their place. That's how this plays out. When it does, you'll owe anyone left entertaining you on the forum an apology.

It also means Trump gets off scot-free too. He can just as easily be named. Many can.

But they won't be. Hence, the plea deal...

Either way - if it were lifted then Bill would have to answer to his conflicting statements vs flight logs and the NeverTrumpers would salivate over 'possibilities' of Trump being dragged in.

So it's almost as if 'Drop the plea deal and both get dragged in to it' in a classis tet-a-tet.

Not to mention Barr after recusing himself would not be the one ordering any lifting anyway, so all that is left is deepstate in the DOJ. High stakes at hand for sure. In the end I doubt the plea deal will be lifted but hard to say. Have to wait and see.

What evidence do you speak of? Bidens son and the Ukrainian Govt? Mueller's and Hillary's Uranium One attack on the Oregon farmers for their land so the BLM (Bureau of Land Management) could use it for strip mining? You mean the cover up by destroying all evidence by Arkenciding many of them?

Trump had nothing to hide and did not. Heresay turned in to fact is what he did not want. So again - what evidence did Trump destroy?

Still waiting...

Video at 22:50, lol!!!

LMAO!!

Acosta didn't even know Trump back when that deal was made...smh.

Appears former President Clinton can't remember he went to the island, the one he denied yesterday visiting...


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What attracted Clinton to Epstein was quite simple: He had a plane (he has a couple, in fact – the Boeing 727, in which he took Clinton to Africa, and, for shorter jaunts, a black Gulfstream, a Cessna 421, and a helicopter to ferry him from his island to St. Thomas). Clinton had organized a weeklong tour of South Africa, Nigeria, Ghana, Rwanda, and Mozambique to do what Clinton does. So when the president’s advance man Doug Band pitched the idea to Epstein, he said sure. As an added bonus, Kevin Spacey, a close friend of Clinton’s, and actor Chris Tucker came along for the ride.

Yep - the stress is getting to him. Wouldn't be surprised next to hear he has Alzheimer's so can avoid paying any price.