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Pre-Tribulation Church Rapture 101

 
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Are you a Christian Zionist? Yes or No?

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Define Christian zionist.
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Do you support the nation of Israel founded in 1948?
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:bridec: Here is a great new video from Melissa

of Midnight Hour Oil Ministries. In it she sets out clearly, logically and truthfully why there will be a Pre-Tribulation Rapture. If you are at all interested in the salvation of your soul it would be well worth a little of your time to watch this. [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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No such thing as RAPTURE.

It's a huge lie.
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"Christian Zionism can be defined as Christian support for the Zionist cause — the return of the Jewish people to its biblical homeland in Israel. It is a belief among some Christians that the return of J_ws to Israel is in line with a biblical prophecy, and is necessary for Jesus to return to Earth as its king. These Christians are partly motivated by the writings of the Bible and the words of the prophets. However, they are also driven to support Israel because they wish to “repay the debt of gratitude to the J_wish people for providing Christ and the other fundamentals of their faith,” and to support a political ally, according to David Brog, author Standing With Israel: Why Christians Support the J_wish State.

Christian Zionists interpret both the Torah and the New Testament as prophetic texts that describe future events of how the world will one day end with the return of Jesus from Heaven to rule on Earth. Israel and its people are central to their vision. They interpret passages from the books of Ezekiel, Daniel, and Isaiah as foreshadowing the coming Christian era. The New Testament Book of Revelation is read by many Christians as a prophetic text of how the world will be in the End Times.

Christian support for Israel is not a recent development. Its politcal roots reach as far back to the 1880s, when a man named William Hechler formed a committee of Christian Zionists to help move Russian J_wish refugees to Palestine after a series of pogroms. In 1884, Hechler wrote a pamphlet called “The Restoration of J_ws to Palestine According to the Prophets.” A few years later, he befriended Theodor Herzl after reading Herzl’s book The J_wish State, and joined Herzl to drum up support for Zionism. Hechler even arranged a meeting between Herzl and Kaiser Wilhelm II to discuss Herzl’s proposal to establish a J_wish state in Palestine. The two men remained close friends up until Herzl’s death in 1904."
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Are you a Christian Zionist? Yes or No?

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Define Christian zionist.
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Do you support the nation of Israel founded in 1948?
 Quoting: WhyKnot


What does "support" mean?

I do not disapprove for any reason.
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"Christian Zionism can be defined as Christian support for the Zionist cause — the return of the Jewish people to its biblical homeland in Israel.
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Is that a bad thing?
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the return of the Jewish people to its biblical homeland in Israel.
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Is that a bad thing?
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1 John 2 STRONGLY CONDEMNS the J_ws for rejecting Jesus.

No Christian should be a Zionist. Only YHWH can reestablish the 12 Tribes of the Israelites.

Besides that, a Christian Zionist is not only supporting anti-Christian activity preventing Israeli citizenship and Christian witnessing but antichrists based on 1 John 2.

Every Christian Zionist is part of the Apostasia that Jesus predicted in Matthew 24!
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Yes. YHWH is disgusted by every J_w as they rejected the Messiahship of the Son of YHWH who is Jesus Christ.
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I defy you to explain this:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77927338


Je,ws preaching Jesus to Je,ws in Israel.

What do you say about this?


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Do you support this?


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Only YHWH can reestablish the 12 Tribes of the Israelites.

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And how do YOU say that HE would do that?
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YHWH will decide how the 12 Tribes of the Israelites are reestablished which has nothing to do with me. The Lord of Creation does not ask my permission.

I praise every devout Christian spreading the Gospel. No one who rejects Buddhism and accepts Christianity calls themselves a Buddhist!

Judaism relies on what they call the "oral torah" and they value that higher than the Old Testament! As such, they just are a bunch of heretics practicing a man-made religion.
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Therefore behold, the days are coming," says the LORD, "that it shall no more be said, 'The LORD lives who brought up the children of Israel from the land of Egypt,'

but, 'The LORD lives who brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north and from all the lands where He had driven them.' For I will bring them back into their land which I gave to their fathers.



Jeremiah 16:14,15


How do YOU say that HE would do that?
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100 years ago, Israel was not there.

Not it's there. Bigly.

God did it.
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[link to www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org (secure)]

"Christian Zionism can be defined as Christian support for the Zionist cause — the return of the Jewish people to its biblical homeland in Israel. It is a belief among some Christians that the return of J_ws to Israel is in line with a biblical prophecy, and is necessary for Jesus to return to Earth as its king. These Christians are partly motivated by the writings of the Bible and the words of the prophets. However, they are also driven to support Israel because they wish to “repay the debt of gratitude to the J_wish people for providing Christ and the other fundamentals of their faith,” and to support a political ally, according to David Brog, author Standing With Israel: Why Christians Support the J_wish State.

Christian Zionists interpret both the Torah and the New Testament as prophetic texts that describe future events of how the world will one day end with the return of Jesus from Heaven to rule on Earth. Israel and its people are central to their vision. They interpret passages from the books of Ezekiel, Daniel, and Isaiah as foreshadowing the coming Christian era. The New Testament Book of Revelation is read by many Christians as a prophetic text of how the world will be in the End Times.

Christian support for Israel is not a recent development. Its politcal roots reach as far back to the 1880s, when a man named William Hechler formed a committee of Christian Zionists to help move Russian J_wish refugees to Palestine after a series of pogroms. In 1884, Hechler wrote a pamphlet called “The Restoration of J_ws to Palestine According to the Prophets.” A few years later, he befriended Theodor Herzl after reading Herzl’s book The J_wish State, and joined Herzl to drum up support for Zionism. Hechler even arranged a meeting between Herzl and Kaiser Wilhelm II to discuss Herzl’s proposal to establish a J_wish state in Palestine. The two men remained close friends up until Herzl’s death in 1904."
 Quoting: WhyKnot




The nation is like a mighty lion;
When it is sleeping, no one dares wake it.
Whoever blesses Israel will be blessed,
And whoever curses Israel will be cursed.”
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100 years ago, Israel was not there.

Now it's there. Bigly.

God did it.

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Therefore behold, the days are coming," says the LORD, "that it shall no more be said, 'The LORD lives who brought up the children of Israel from the land of Egypt,'

but, 'The LORD lives who brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north and from all the lands where He had driven them.' For I will bring them back into their land which I gave to their fathers.



Jeremiah 16:14,15


How do YOU say that HE would do that?
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Who are you to question how YHWH will do anything? What a moron you are and what a rebel.
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They don't know it.

He said they wouldn't know He did it.

Do YOU know that?

I bet you can't quote the verse for me.

Admit it. Just tell the truth and we'll continue

and you can continue your pose...
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[link to www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org (secure)]

"Christian Zionism can be defined as Christian support for the Zionist cause — the return of the Jewish people to its biblical homeland in Israel. It is a belief among some Christians that the return of J_ws to Israel is in line with a biblical prophecy, and is necessary for Jesus to return to Earth as its king. These Christians are partly motivated by the writings of the Bible and the words of the prophets. However, they are also driven to support Israel because they wish to “repay the debt of gratitude to the J_wish people for providing Christ and the other fundamentals of their faith,” and to support a political ally, according to David Brog, author Standing With Israel: Why Christians Support the J_wish State.

Christian Zionists interpret both the Torah and the New Testament as prophetic texts that describe future events of how the world will one day end with the return of Jesus from Heaven to rule on Earth. Israel and its people are central to their vision. They interpret passages from the books of Ezekiel, Daniel, and Isaiah as foreshadowing the coming Christian era. The New Testament Book of Revelation is read by many Christians as a prophetic text of how the world will be in the End Times.

Christian support for Israel is not a recent development. Its politcal roots reach as far back to the 1880s, when a man named William Hechler formed a committee of Christian Zionists to help move Russian J_wish refugees to Palestine after a series of pogroms. In 1884, Hechler wrote a pamphlet called “The Restoration of J_ws to Palestine According to the Prophets.” A few years later, he befriended Theodor Herzl after reading Herzl’s book The J_wish State, and joined Herzl to drum up support for Zionism. Hechler even arranged a meeting between Herzl and Kaiser Wilhelm II to discuss Herzl’s proposal to establish a J_wish state in Palestine. The two men remained close friends up until Herzl’s death in 1904."
 Quoting: WhyKnot




The nation is like a mighty lion;
When it is sleeping, no one dares wake it.
Whoever blesses Israel will be blessed,
And whoever curses Israel will be cursed.”
 Quoting: Rapture Truth 55277250

Anyone who puts rabbinic teaching higher than the Torah will be cursed! That is what Jesus said.
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And I am sticking to the point, considering all things are connected. This thread is dying thankfully!

Not filled with hate at all. Just write ters sentences because you don't care to be corrected anyway. If you read everything with a smile it all sounds nice!
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:german3: Not filled with hate, yet you give thanks that this thread about warning people to save their souls is dying! Boy you sure could have fooled me.

As for this thread dying as you so ineloquently put it, this is the internet after all, and 36 pages and over 10,000 views isn't all that bad. If the Rapture hasn't happened in a few weeks then I'll probably start another thread.
 Quoting: Judethz


It would seem there would be a consensus on what scripture says.

Does scripture offer a consensus where everyone is in agreement?

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John all offer witness to the testimony of Jesus Christ on what HE says will occur.

The consensus EVERY SINGLE Apostle writes about in scripture states that Jesus returns AFTER the tribulation.

THEY BEAR WITNESS TO THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS AND WRITE IT OUT FOR US TO READ.

Paul alludes to those exact scriptures when speaking.

Anything other than what Jesus says and people attribute to Paul saying about a Rapture even is in fact just as Jesus lays out Himself in scripture and which they attest and witness to, THAT HE HIMSELF SAYS HE RETURNS AFTER THE TRIBULATION.

Why you seek to put words into Jesus' mouth He doesn't say baffles me.
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Who are you to question how YHWH will do anything? What a moron you are and what a rebel.
 Quoting: WhyKnot

You are truly evil.

I did no such thing.

I repeat, you are truly evil.

If you are not truly evil, QUOTE ME.
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They don't know it.

He said they wouldn't know He did it.

Do YOU know that?

I bet you can't quote the verse for me.

Admit it. Just tell the truth and we'll continue

and you can continue your pose...
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Tell me the name of the demon that possessed your soul.
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Mr. Bible Expert Fervent True Believer in Jesus Christ Heretic Proclaimer,

100 years ago, Israel was not there.

Now it's there. Bigly.

God did it.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77927338

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77927338


They don't know it.

He said they wouldn't know He did it.

Do YOU know that?

I bet you can't quote the verse for me.

Admit it. Just tell the truth and we'll continue

and you can continue your pose...
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They don't know it.

He said they wouldn't know He did it.

Do YOU know that?

I bet you can't quote the verse for me.

Admit it. Just tell the truth and we'll continue

and you can continue your pose...
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Tell me the name of the demon that possessed your soul.
 Quoting: WhyKnot


You will answer to Jesus Christ for that.

I promise you.
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Do you know the verse that says God will regather Israel together in the land of Israel without them knowing it or Him?

Yes or No?
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You don't. Just say no. It's ok. Perhaps He will allow you to still yet learn..
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They don't know it.

He said they wouldn't know He did it.

Do YOU know that?

I bet you can't quote the verse for me.

Admit it. Just tell the truth and we'll continue

and you can continue your pose...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77927338

Tell me the name of the demon that possessed your soul.
 Quoting: WhyKnot


You will answer to Jesus Christ for that.

I promise you.
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I rebuke you in the Name of Yeshua ha Mashiach, the Hebrew Name of Jesus Christ.

Your posts are an abomination before the TRINITY. You have less than a pathetic heretical understanding of the Bible. You disgust me as your actions persecute Christian missionaries to Israeli J_ws.
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By the way, concerning your Zionist Christian discarded avenue of attack...

As a Christian, am I supposed to be against God saying He will regather Israel together in Israel DESPITE the Je,ws?
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I rebuke you in the Name of Yeshua ha Mashiach, the Hebrew Name of Jesus Christ.
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Rebuke me for what?

Quote that which you rebuke.

Show everyone.
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Rebuke me for what?

Quote that which you rebuke.

Show everyone.
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Demon, come out of this poster in the name of Yeshua Malek ha Mashiach.
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They don't know it.

He said they wouldn't know He did it.

Do YOU know that?

I bet you can't quote the verse for me.

Admit it. Just tell the truth and we'll continue

and you can continue your pose...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77927338

Tell me the name of the demon that possessed your soul.
 Quoting: WhyKnot


You will answer to Jesus Christ for that.

I promise you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77927338

I rebuke you in the Name of Yeshua ha Mashiach, the Hebrew Name of Jesus Christ.

Your posts are an abomination before the TRINITY. You have less than a pathetic heretical understanding of the Bible. You disgust me as your actions persecute Christian missionaries to Israeli J_ws.
 Quoting: WhyKnot


You don't know much about logic, do you?
 Quoting: WhyKnot

The way that you consistently respond to everyone that disagrees with you,

with self-righteous certainty and arrogant condescension,

convinces me that you have little or nothing to do with the Spirit of Christ.
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