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| sisatsana888 User ID: 10084205 United States07/24/2019 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Proverbs 30 2Surely I am the greatest fool of all men, and have not the understanding of man. 3I neither learned wisdom, nor have the knowledge of the holistic. 4For who was it that ascended up into heaven, or descended? who gathered the wind in his fists? who weaved the waters together like a garment? who established all the ends of the earth? what was his Name, and what was his Son's name, if you could please tell me? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77846709 United States07/24/2019 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People will be buying and selling, getting married, living normal life... when suddenly everything changes. What happened when the flood took people away? Did they go to Jesus? Quoting: Chip It was another one of Jesus' parables and...it explains everything. Those that believed God went into God's Protection where He closed the door behind them and they rode out the storm securely while those left behind outside died. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77846709 United States07/24/2019 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also. John 14:2,3 Come, my people, enter your chambers, And shut your doors behind you; Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment, Until the indignation is past. For behold, the LORD comes out of His place To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity; The earth will also disclose her blood, And will no more cover her slain. Isaiah 26:20:21 |
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janedoenut
 User ID: 75467169 United States07/24/2019 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, what I am saying is that the wicked are taken first. First take the tares and then harvest the wheat and do it at the last trump. I didn't write it so if you need to get upset about it, take it up with Matthew, Jesus and Paul. Matthew 13:30 “Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.” No escapist rapture. Last Edited by janedoenut on 07/24/2019 10:44 PM “If you'll let me tell you what I imagine about myself, you'll find it a lot more interesting” –Anne Shirley "Seemingly your father nor mother taught you that as a man, it's your job to protect and provide for women and lead strong families. As men, had you done your job, you wouldn't be living in a matriarchal society." - Janedoenut, 2018 |
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| janedoenut
User ID: 75467169 United States07/24/2019 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those that believed God went into God's Protection where He closed the door behind them and they rode out the storm securely while those left behind outside died. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77846709 Link? Chapter + Verse please. “If you'll let me tell you what I imagine about myself, you'll find it a lot more interesting” –Anne Shirley "Seemingly your father nor mother taught you that as a man, it's your job to protect and provide for women and lead strong families. As men, had you done your job, you wouldn't be living in a matriarchal society." - Janedoenut, 2018 |
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| janedoenut
User ID: 75467169 United States07/24/2019 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who is gathered together to war against Jesus at His Second Coming? Take it up with Matthew, Jesus and Paul. As I said, I didn't write it, Matthew and Paul did. “If you'll let me tell you what I imagine about myself, you'll find it a lot more interesting” –Anne Shirley "Seemingly your father nor mother taught you that as a man, it's your job to protect and provide for women and lead strong families. As men, had you done your job, you wouldn't be living in a matriarchal society." - Janedoenut, 2018 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77846709 United States07/24/2019 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The wicked are unrepentant. But the rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and idols of gold, silver, brass, stone, and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk. And they did not repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts. Revelation 9:20,21 And men were scorched with great heat, and they blasphemed the name of God who has power over these plagues; and they did not repent and give Him glory. Then the fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and his kingdom became full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues because of the pain. They blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and did not repent of their deeds. Revelation 16:9-11 |
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| janedoenut
User ID: 75467169 United States07/24/2019 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But the rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and idols of gold, silver, brass, stone, and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77846709 And they did not repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts. Revelation 9:20,21 And men were scorched with great heat, and they blasphemed the name of God who has power over these plagues; and they did not repent and give Him glory. Then the fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and his kingdom became full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues because of the pain. They blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and did not repent of their deeds. Revelation 16:9-11 ^Worth stating again. “If you'll let me tell you what I imagine about myself, you'll find it a lot more interesting” –Anne Shirley "Seemingly your father nor mother taught you that as a man, it's your job to protect and provide for women and lead strong families. As men, had you done your job, you wouldn't be living in a matriarchal society." - Janedoenut, 2018 |
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User ID: 75467169 United States07/24/2019 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For in the time of trouble Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77846709 He shall hide me in His pavilion; In the secret place of His tabernacle He shall hide me; He shall set me high upon a rock. Psalm 27:5  Until Judgement, there's always a remnant but hiding is not the same as removing. “If you'll let me tell you what I imagine about myself, you'll find it a lot more interesting” –Anne Shirley "Seemingly your father nor mother taught you that as a man, it's your job to protect and provide for women and lead strong families. As men, had you done your job, you wouldn't be living in a matriarchal society." - Janedoenut, 2018 |
| TheLordsServant
User ID: 12071519 United States07/24/2019 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: TheLordsServant WHERE does Jesus state that we will MISS tribulation? For that matter where does Paul say that? Paul didn't receive nor teach anything other than what the other Apostles did. Thread: To Understand Paul - His Letters Don't Tell Us All of What He Originally Preached - Bible Study Notice how they always say read 1 Thessalonians but never comment on 2 Thessalonians that was written to correct 1 Thessalonians. If you read 2nd Thessalonians, the "rapture" event is not until the end, like its supposed to be. On top of that - compare what Jesus and Paul say Matthew 24 29 Immediately* after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other*. 1 Thessalonians 4 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Yes! Not much gets me as upset as this pre trib rapture falsehood that leads people astray. I can't stand it! My concern is that beleivers will realize that the Tribulation starts - and the rapture hasnt' happened - and they will be the great "falling away" - claiming that since the rapture didn't happen then the Bible is wrong.  I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
| TheLordsServant
User ID: 12071519 United States07/24/2019 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First the wheat and then the tares. Quoting: janedoenut Noah was spared whilst the wicked perished. As in the days of Noe. At the last trump, first the dead and then the living. Good grief, pick up a bible and actually read it. If you get 'raptured', you're either dead or a wicked tare. Tares first. Matthew 13:37-43 37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
| TheLordsServant
User ID: 12071519 United States07/24/2019 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First the wheat and then the tares. Quoting: janedoenut Noah was spared whilst the wicked perished. As in the days of Noe. At the last trump, first the dead and then the living. Good grief, pick up a bible and actually read it. If you get 'raptured', you're either dead or a wicked tare. can you not read? 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. does that ^^^ describe taking the "wicked"?.....No. He's taking those that belong to him. Matthew 13:37-43 37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
| janedoenut
User ID: 75467169 United States07/24/2019 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My concern is that beleivers will realize that the Tribulation starts - and the rapture hasnt' happened - and they will be the great "falling away" - claiming that since the rapture didn't happen then the Bible is wrong. Quoting: TheLordsServant ^yup. “If you'll let me tell you what I imagine about myself, you'll find it a lot more interesting” –Anne Shirley "Seemingly your father nor mother taught you that as a man, it's your job to protect and provide for women and lead strong families. As men, had you done your job, you wouldn't be living in a matriarchal society." - Janedoenut, 2018 |
| TheLordsServant
User ID: 12071519 United States07/24/2019 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  The Lord comes twice. The first time in the Rapture,  as detailed in the verses below. And the second time as you say at the climax of the Great Tribulation. But we will be sheltered in Heaven during that event, which is the wrath being poured out upon all the wicked unbelievers. 1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.[/b] NONSENSE Tares FIRST. Matthew 13:37-43 37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77846709 United States07/24/2019 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus said it will be as the days of Noah. What happened when the flood took people away? Did they go to Jesus? Quoting: Chip It was another one of Jesus' parables and...it explains everything. [link to youtu.be (secure)] . |
| janedoenut
User ID: 75467169 United States07/24/2019 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First the wheat and then the tares. Quoting: janedoenut Noah was spared whilst the wicked perished. As in the days of Noe. At the last trump, first the dead and then the living. Good grief, pick up a bible and actually read it. If you get 'raptured', you're either dead or a wicked tare. Tares first. Yikes, that's a pretty big type-o! FIRST THE TARES!!! Apologizes and hangs my head :( Last Edited by janedoenut on 07/24/2019 11:24 PM “If you'll let me tell you what I imagine about myself, you'll find it a lot more interesting” –Anne Shirley "Seemingly your father nor mother taught you that as a man, it's your job to protect and provide for women and lead strong families. As men, had you done your job, you wouldn't be living in a matriarchal society." - Janedoenut, 2018 |
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User ID: 75467169 United States07/24/2019 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the wicked are removed and the Wrath of God is death and destruction from God upon His Faithful believers?! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77846709 Yeah, that makes total sense. You graduate with eachatological honors. You should go work at Harvard Theological. They'd hire you.  It had to be said “If you'll let me tell you what I imagine about myself, you'll find it a lot more interesting” –Anne Shirley "Seemingly your father nor mother taught you that as a man, it's your job to protect and provide for women and lead strong families. As men, had you done your job, you wouldn't be living in a matriarchal society." - Janedoenut, 2018 |
