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Pre-Tribulation Church Rapture 101

 
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For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion;
In the secret place of His tabernacle
He shall hide me;
He shall set me high upon a rock.


Psalm 27:5

hmm
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Until Judgement, there's always a remnant but hiding is not the same as removing.
 Quoting: janedoenut


In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.
If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.


John 14:2,3



Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.

For behold, the LORD comes out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity;
The earth will also disclose her blood,
And will no more cover her slain.


Isaiah 26:20:21
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So the wicked are removed and the Wrath of God is death and destruction from God upon His Faithful believers?!
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Yeah, that makes total sense. You graduate with eachatological honors. You should go work at Harvard Theological. They'd hire you.

epiclol
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Of course it's absurd! That's my point!
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So the wicked are removed and the Wrath of God is death and destruction from God upon His Faithful believers?!
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Yeah, that makes total sense. You graduate with eachatological honors. You should go work at Harvard Theological. They'd hire you.

epiclol
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Of course it's absurd! That's my point!
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I'm slow. What was your point?
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Last Edited by janedoenut on 07/24/2019 11:54 PM
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"Seemingly your father nor mother taught you that as a man, it's your job to protect and provide for women and lead strong families. As men, had you done your job, you wouldn't be living in a matriarchal society." - Janedoenut, 2018
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"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season?

Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing.

Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods.

But if that evil servant says in his heart, 'My master is delaying his coming,'

and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards,

the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of,

and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."


Matthew 28:44-51
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Notice how they always say read 1 Thessalonians but never comment on 2 Thessalonians that was written to correct 1 Thessalonians.

If you read 2nd Thessalonians, the "rapture" event is not until the end, like its supposed to be.
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


On top of that - compare what Jesus and Paul say

Matthew 24

29 Immediately* after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other*.


1 Thessalonians 4

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Yes!

Not much gets me as upset as this pre trib rapture falsehood that leads people astray.

I can't stand it!
 Quoting: ~Newton's Own~


My concern is that beleivers will realize that the Tribulation starts - and the rapture hasnt' happened - and they will be the great "falling away" - claiming that since the rapture didn't happen then the Bible is wrong.

verysad
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Yes.

The grand deception.

Irony, but in this case, it isn't funny.

False doctrine and those who push it, is the blind leading the blind, spoken of in scripture.

Glad to see so many people speak out and warn against this delusion.
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Why would a Christian would try to escape the Wrath when you're the ones who are supposed to be bringing the Wrath?

Are you in the army of the Lord, or aren't you? If you're in the celestial army, then over your white horse and ride with the General! If you're not with him, you're against him. Do you people even have the slightest clue that you're supposed to be raptured and ascended with Christ while on earth? Did you think this was dress rehearsal? You're in the great tribulation! Take a look around you.

Revelation 19
11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14And the celestial armies began following him upon their white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

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His point is that he's a satan worshiper.
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Not to difficult to figure out

sisatsana

a ass at sin
satan as is
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Yes, that's obviously what it means.

Satan as is.

Why didn't I think of that?

You got me.

You sure are clever like that.
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You sure are clever like that.
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Apparently not too clever as I misspelled too.

And apologies, I think I may have misunderstood you. I deleted my post too.

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For it will come as a snare
on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always
that you may be counted worthy
to escape all these things that will come to pass,
and to stand before the Son of Man.

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You sure are clever like that.
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Apparently not too clever as I misspelled too.
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Well, that's what spell check is here for.

Take a lap.
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You sure are clever like that.
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Apparently not too clever as I misspelled too.
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Well, that's what spell check is here for.

Take a lap.
 Quoting: sisatsana888 77811313


And my apologies, I think I may have misunderstood you. I deleted my post too.
“If you'll let me tell you what I imagine about myself, you'll find it a lot more interesting” –Anne Shirley


"Seemingly your father nor mother taught you that as a man, it's your job to protect and provide for women and lead strong families. As men, had you done your job, you wouldn't be living in a matriarchal society." - Janedoenut, 2018
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You sure are clever like that.
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Apparently not too clever as I misspelled too.
 Quoting: janedoenut


Well, that's what spell check is here for.

Take a lap.
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And my apologies, I think I may have misunderstood you. I deleted my post too.
 Quoting: janedoenut


No worries.

You aren't the first to misunderstand me, and you won't be last.

Sometimes I even misunderstand myself and start punching myself, but then I remember I'm not supposed to punch people, so I stop.
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You sure are clever like that.
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Apparently not too clever as I misspelled too.
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Well, that's what spell check is here for.

Take a lap.
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And my apologies, I think I may have misunderstood you. I deleted my post too.
 Quoting: janedoenut


No wonder I couldn't respond. Thought I was having a problem.
The hour is near
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Thread: Mike Pompeo is a Christian and a believer in the pre-trib rapture.
hershy
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You're in the great tribulation! Take a look around you.

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Nonsense.

You don't think much of The Tribulation... these are gravy days...
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No need to wait on hidden raptures. Repent and be baptized into Christ's death that you may be raised and raptured to celestial realms while on earth into his resurrected life. The celestial kingdom is within you. No need to stay down there with the earth dwellers. You can have your own personal hidden rapture and let the Good Shepherd lead out into Pastures Beyond by name.



Ephesians 2

But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,5Even when we were dead in sins, hath enlivebed us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) 6And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in the celestial realms in Christ Jesus: 7That in the aeons to come he might show the exceeding riches of his grace in hiskindness toward us through Christ Jesus. 8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus upon good works, which God had before ordained that we should walk within them.
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Do you want to be with Jesus?

I do.


For it will come as a snare
on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always
that you may be counted worthy
to escape all these things that will come to pass,
and to stand before the Son of Man.


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Would you like Jesus to count you worthy

to escape all the terrible things that will soon come upon the earth

and be with Him through it all

and then return with Him?


I would.
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You're in the great tribulation! Take a look around you.

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Nonsense.

You don't think much of The Tribulation... these are gravy days...
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You dishonor the memory of every martyr who has ever been slain for the faith of Christ and came through the great tribulation.

You're understanding of eschatology has all the depth of rice paper.

You know not of what you speak.

John spoke of those martyrs who had already been slain for the name of Christ as coming through the great tribulation. And the sign is to all who will ever be persecuted in this world for the Faith.
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You're in the great tribulation! Take a look around you.

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Nonsense.

You don't think much of The Tribulation... these are gravy days...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77846709


You dishonor the memory of every martyr who has ever been slain for the faith of Christ and came through the great tribulation.

You're understanding of eschatology has all the depth of rice paper.

You know not of what you speak.

John spoke of those martyrs who had already been slain for the name of Christ as coming through the great tribulation. And the sign is to all who will ever be persecuted in this world for the Faith.
 Quoting: sisatsana888 77811313


I dishonor no believer for any reason.

You seek only to accuse me.

Your animosity is palpable..
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The Tribulation and the Great Tribulation speak of a specific time and events on God's calendar of the history of humanity.

For that you insult me as rice paper...

because you are of the Spirit of God?
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You're in the great tribulation! Take a look around you.

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Nonsense.

You don't think much of The Tribulation... these are gravy days...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77846709


You dishonor the memory of every martyr who has ever been slain for the faith of Christ and came through the great tribulation.

You're understanding of eschatology has all the depth of rice paper.

You know not of what you speak.

John spoke of those martyrs who had already been slain for the name of Christ as coming through the great tribulation. And the sign is to all who will ever be persecuted in this world for the Faith.
 Quoting: sisatsana888 77811313


I dishonor no believer for any reason.

You seek only to accuse me.

Your animosity is palpable..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77846709


Good. It should be palpable.

Those martyrs are in glory having come through the great tribulation.

It isn't just animosity, it is utter contempt.

Now go watch your Nicolae Carphathias and Buck Williams in Left Behind films and blow your brains out on anti-Biblical hogslop invented by Jesuits.

Didn't you ever wonder if God was a lot bigger and better than these morons painted him?

Imagine.
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Now go watch your Nicolae Carphathias and Buck Williams in Left Behind films and blow your brains out on anti-Biblical hogslop invented by Jesuits.

Didn't you ever wonder if God was a lot bigger and better than these morons painted him?

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Never seen either of them.

Have only watched a few football games in the last 30 years.

God bless you.
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Now go watch your Nicolae Carphathias and Buck Williams in Left Behind films and blow your brains out on anti-Biblical hogslop invented by Jesuits.

Didn't you ever wonder if God was a lot bigger and better than these morons painted him?

 Quoting: sisatsana888 77811313


Never seen either of them.

Have only watched a few football games in the last 30 years.

God bless you.
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Don't try that passive aggressive "God bless you" on me. I'm was a Bible major. I know all the tricks behind this magic show.

Get your doctrine sound, first. Then you can bless me.
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I last turned on the tv for the Kentucky Derby and Tiger Woods victory day.

I don't watch tv. Not with the information superhighway at our fingertips

and GLP...
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Now go watch your Nicolae Carphathias and Buck Williams in Left Behind films and blow your brains out on anti-Biblical hogslop invented by Jesuits.

Didn't you ever wonder if God was a lot bigger and better than these morons painted him?

 Quoting: sisatsana888 77811313


Never seen either of them.

Have only watched a few football games in the last 30 years.

God bless you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77846709


Don't try that passive aggressive "God bless you" on me. I'm was a Bible major. I know all the tricks behind this magic show.

Get your doctrine sound, first. Then you can bless me.
 Quoting: sisatsana888 77811313

Jesus will judge between us.

God give you what is best for you..
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Now go watch your Nicolae Carphathias and Buck Williams in Left Behind films and blow your brains out on anti-Biblical hogslop invented by Jesuits.

Didn't you ever wonder if God was a lot bigger and better than these morons painted him?

 Quoting: sisatsana888 77811313


Never seen either of them.

Have only watched a few football games in the last 30 years.

God bless you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77846709


Don't try that passive aggressive "God bless you" on me. I'm was a Bible major. I know all the tricks behind this magic show.

Get your doctrine sound, first. Then you can bless me.
 Quoting: sisatsana888 77811313

Jesus will judge between us.

God give you what is best for you..
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Ok. He will, indeed.
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Would you like Jesus to count you worthy
to escape all the terrible things that will soon come upon the earth
and be with Him through it all
and then return with Him?

I would.
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Do you want to be with Jesus?
I do.

For it will come as a snare
on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore, and pray always
that you may be counted worthy
to escape all these things that will come to pass,
and to stand before the Son of Man.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77846709






GLP