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Yes, indeed: you trap a child in an abusive home, thwart his efforts to be free, backstab him, lie to him, and then psychologically torture him, and he is going to HATE you. This isn't some fiction where love conquers all, as much as you may have told yourself that to excuse the guilt you never felt. You are a cruel, selfish and fanatical people. You have always gotten what you deserve.
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And you know exactly what you didn't do.

No we won't talk later.

No amount of talking shall convince anyone or anything of any fact other than you're simply ignorant.
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I LOATHE you. I have no desire to understand you. That is different than ignorance, although I can see how heavily invested in parsing my statements like you usually do. Your accusations of selfishness have already left me sick and isolated, because health and friends are SELFISH don't you see? GO AWAY.
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I'm sorry you feel that way. However, I don't agree.

Never will.

You can be as selfish as you wish. But that's not my wish for you.

I wish you ENOUGH. Not too much, not too little...

but ENOUGH.

Not too much because you would become vain.

Not too little because then I couldn't convince you to have faith.

But just enough.

So you'd be open to any and all possible outcomes.

I can't make you see.

I can't make you hear.

I can only challenge you to realize...

###

Only the ego is offended.

Love is all that matters... Nothing else.
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You wish to control my clothing, my food, my friends and other associations, the media I consume, how much I have, what I know, what I seek to know, what I do with my body, what I do with my time, what I privately think and even my mood. And you are a stranger, and a hostile one at that. I don't care that you're desperate. You didn't care when I was desperate, and I made it on my own while you said 'there but for the grace of God go I,' and that's only if you were even looking, which, knowing you, you weren't. Ask your snobby wealthy to save your ass. Ask your millions of thugs and professional liars. Don't ask me. And don't presume to tell me how much of anything is too much for me, because you desire to control everything, everywhere, forever.
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I'm not desperate. Why would I be? I don't know you personally. You don't know me or a thing about me. The struggles I have conquered. The failures I've endured. To just be here typing this right now.

I am dirt poor and not wealthy. I am not asking you for a single iota.

You have me confused with someone else. But I do judge what comes out of a person while retaining the ability to discern the state of the person.

You sought the same thing you accuse me and others of. Is that a fair judgement? No, it's not. Now who's oppressing?

Sure not me. I'm trying to RELEASE people from that oppression.

If that's a damned good reason for doing anything I do, then so be it.

If the truth hurts, then it hurts. Only by accepting truth and opening your eyes and ears to hearing and seeing it is all I desire. And that's not selfish or some base-desire of the selfish ego. That's something which can benefit all. Not just one person. The truth is free and never should be locked away in a cage for just a few or one.

Why would I want to control? When I'm working for removing the oppression which has tormented every person ever born? Including myself?

You really should rethink your judgements. You're not using discernment.
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Yes, indeed: you trap a child in an abusive home, thwart his efforts to be free, backstab him, lie to him, and then psychologically torture him, and he is going to HATE you. This isn't some fiction where love conquers all, as much as you may have told yourself that to excuse the guilt you never felt. You are a cruel, selfish and fanatical people. You have always gotten what you deserve.
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I LOATHE you. I have no desire to understand you. That is different than ignorance, although I can see how heavily invested in parsing my statements like you usually do. Your accusations of selfishness have already left me sick and isolated, because health and friends are SELFISH don't you see? GO AWAY.
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I'm sorry you feel that way. However, I don't agree.

Never will.

You can be as selfish as you wish. But that's not my wish for you.

I wish you ENOUGH. Not too much, not too little...

but ENOUGH.

Not too much because you would become vain.

Not too little because then I couldn't convince you to have faith.

But just enough.

So you'd be open to any and all possible outcomes.

I can't make you see.

I can't make you hear.

I can only challenge you to realize...

###

Only the ego is offended.

Love is all that matters... Nothing else.
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You wish to control my clothing, my food, my friends and other associations, the media I consume, how much I have, what I know, what I seek to know, what I do with my body, what I do with my time, what I privately think and even my mood. And you are a stranger, and a hostile one at that. I don't care that you're desperate. You didn't care when I was desperate, and I made it on my own while you said 'there but for the grace of God go I,' and that's only if you were even looking, which, knowing you, you weren't. Ask your snobby wealthy to save your ass. Ask your millions of thugs and professional liars. Don't ask me. And don't presume to tell me how much of anything is too much for me, because you desire to control everything, everywhere, forever.
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I'm not desperate. Why would I be? I don't know you personally. You don't know me or a thing about me. The struggles I have conquered. The failures I've endured. To just be here typing this right now.

I am dirt poor and not wealthy. I am not asking you for a single iota.

You have me confused with someone else. But I do judge what comes out of a person while retaining the ability to discern the state of the person.

You sought the same thing you accuse me and others of. Is that a fair judgement? No, it's not. Now who's oppressing?

Sure not me. I'm trying to RELEASE people from that oppression.

If that's a damned good reason for doing anything I do, then so be it.

If the truth hurts, then it hurts. Only by accepting truth and opening your eyes and ears to hearing and seeing it is all I desire. And that's not selfish or some base-desire of the selfish ego. That's something which can benefit all. Not just one person. The truth is free and never should be locked away in a cage for just a few or one.

Why would I want to control? When I'm working for removing the oppression which has tormented every person ever born? Including myself?

You really should rethink your judgements. You're not using discernment.
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It is better that the earth and human civilization and yes even the species come to an end than that weeping, malicious, psychotic little tyrants like you try to force their fabricated divine will on everyone and everything there is. I'm tired of arguments with you where when you fail to convince you strike at what people hold most dear, for the sake of an idea you may not even hold tomorrow. I hate your fake modesty, your mafioso insistence on humility, your crooked and unequally-applied sense of justice, and your twisted ethnocentrism. You've cost me friends, you've cost me happiness, you've cost me peace, just so an essentially-criminal class doesn't have to face a reality that their own actions have made practically INEVITABLE. You've made EVERYBODY'S bed, but are too good to lie in it yourselves. Psychotic.
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Yes, indeed: you trap a child in an abusive home, thwart his efforts to be free, backstab him, lie to him, and then psychologically torture him, and he is going to HATE you. This isn't some fiction where love conquers all, as much as you may have told yourself that to excuse the guilt you never felt. You are a cruel, selfish and fanatical people. You have always gotten what you deserve.
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I don't have or never have done anything of this sort. I don't know you personally. But from what I read here, I hope you find peace considering.

Love does conquer all when it's unconditional.

When it's not unconditional, it's surely not love.

It's something else entirely.

I'm actually one of the most loving persons around, but I can kick-ass like a BOSS. You get what you give. I discern which way depending upon the state of a person's heart and/or mind.

As for guilt? You have no clue of how much guilt I've had to endure. The majority of which isn't even my doings. It never was.

As for cruelty you speak-of, I've had that in spades.

That's why I CHOOSE love.

And if that love seems tough, then so be it too.

It's still love nevertheless.
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It is better that the earth and human civilization and yes even the species come to an end than that weeping, malicious, psychotic little tyrants like you try to force their fabricated divine will on everyone and everything there is. I'm tired of arguments with you where when you fail to convince you strike at what people hold most dear, for the sake of an idea you may not even hold tomorrow. I hate your fake modesty, your mafioso insistence on humility, your crooked and unequally-applied sense of justice, and your twisted ethnocentrism. You've cost me friends, you've cost me happiness, you've cost me peace, just so an essentially-criminal class doesn't have to face a reality that their own actions have made practically INEVITABLE. You've made EVERYBODY'S bed, but are too good to lie in it yourselves. Psychotic.

THIS IS BULLSHIT and you know it.

Believe what you wish to believe.

I KNOW DIFFERENT.
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It is better that the earth and human civilization and yes even the species come to an end than that weeping, malicious, psychotic little tyrants like you try to force their fabricated divine will on everyone and everything there is. I'm tired of arguments with you where when you fail to convince you strike at what people hold most dear, for the sake of an idea you may not even hold tomorrow. I hate your fake modesty, your mafioso insistence on humility, your crooked and unequally-applied sense of justice, and your twisted ethnocentrism. You've cost me friends, you've cost me happiness, you've cost me peace, just so an essentially-criminal class doesn't have to face a reality that their own actions have made practically INEVITABLE. You've made EVERYBODY'S bed, but are too good to lie in it yourselves. Psychotic.

THIS IS BULLSHIT and you know it.

Believe what you wish to believe.

I KNOW DIFFERENT.
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just to let you know, i got a hard on for you.

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It seems this is the million-dollar question. Personally, just answering this question for me alone isn't the reason or the rhyme.

Answering this question: "What Do I Desire?"

Is simple.

I desire everyone to be, finding, and knowing happiness, contentedness. In all of the forms it chooses to take, be, or exist in or as.

HAPPINESS.

WHOLE.

Considering, that I could not be satisfied in being all of the above, knowing that same state is not accessible or available freely to everyone else, too.

That's what would make me happy.

Ripple-on the path!!!

You know, you've always known.

Only the ego is offended.

Love is all that matters... Nothing else.
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It seems this is the million-dollar question. Personally, just answering this question for me alone isn't the reason or the rhyme.

Answering this question: "What Do I Desire?"

Is simple.

I desire everyone to be, finding, and knowing happiness, contentedness. In all of the forms it chooses to take, be, or exist in or as.

HAPPINESS.

WHOLE.

Considering, that I could not be satisfied in being all of the above, knowing that same state is not accessible or available freely to everyone else, too.

That's what would make me happy.

Ripple-on the path!!!

You know, you've always known.

Only the ego is offended.

Love is all that matters... Nothing else.
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Death is relief.
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I'm not watching any more of your stupid videos. You can't even say 'we' and instead say 'God,' as if that somehow sanctifies your demands on me. Why don't I care about the minorities of the world? Because they are petty, little tyrants who have nothing better to do than trap people into their stupid mythologies, which in the end only serve to glorify their vices and crimes.

The human element here was the only thing preventing tragedy. Not the forces of nature, still less anything 'supernatural.' You said, 'unless you do as we say, and we don't ask this of other people than you, then we will work to make your life miserable.' God didn't do that, God didn't say that, YOU DID.

I'm not interested in having questions of your own administrative failure diverted into questions of theodicy, or being told that I have no right to redress of my grievances because of some sophistical argument that the 'I' or ego doesn't exist. If that is the case, there is no injustice anywhere.

Those children you abandon, you lose. It's as simple as that. And let's not pretend this is a soul-saving mission, but an attempt to make someone useful from whom you had no use before--and treated like it. Your love wasn't unconditional, even for a little kid. So you can go to hell. Comfort yourself in the fact that all the spoiled, pampered wealthy you have gone out of your way to make every excuse for will suffer nothing because they have thousands of little drones like you, bred and educated to sacrifice themselves for their material interests. Count me out, however.
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The girl is not trained, but the guy is a master in the arts...

They are opposites, it is said they are from the same cloth. People keep mentioning twin flames, but I'm not sure that everyone agrees on the same meaning of it. What happens if the Destiny of these two is is not a single flame, but the destiny to keep twin flames burning?
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hf

Him is fool only use mind atm
yep master of none=smart to overcome
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Once again you overstep.

Prove it. Prove you know who he is to be able to say such thing about both of them with authority.

You cannot because you do not.

If you know who he is exactly you could possibly make such a claim...but you do not and even worse is you are making bad guesses again.

Don't guess. We don't make mistakes.
Talk to the boss lady and she will read you from the manual and correct your operating procedures.


Higher Order Logic does not fight Lower Order Logic, it does not have to and Lower Order Logic is it's little brother and part of it.

Lower Order Logic fights to get what it wants. Higher Order Logic obtains it with no effort.

Read the Fucking Manual.

There is nothing Lower Order Logic can do to affect Higher Order Logic, it is like a small dog humping your leg.

Higher Order Logic uses Ripples.
Lower Order Logic uses brute force. Brute force can't fight ripples nor even understand the whole.

Evolve upwards. There is nothing else. Higher Orders require cooperation without sublimation of the self to another by force or contracts.

Whose who can't work together end up stuck in evolutionary dead ends and dead end pathways.

It is like Higher Order Logic entities are from the same family and lower order logic is individuals competing to see who is the boss or who is best.

Higher Order Entities share their experiences freely with each other. If you are not open to that then you will be stuck until you grow up.

There is nothing tricky happening. All that is happening is simple entities progressing to become higher entities and understand what that is all about.
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I just Said what i ding ding about Him
I never use religious text from my own or etc
why i post that .... i can't explained all in detail
blue is violet, 4 7 is still 7 4 too
Gold(69) Silver(47) bridge
Green Need lots of rain (not hot/cold)
Cancer (also 47)
Cygnus (also Swan)
License for Celestial Navi
the cross of 69 and 47
produce the 13, 6+7 or 9+4
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so the original thread deleted ...


not ring a bell


green ....
is physical (like location, and metahphor)

soil
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Could you elaborate/explain what that means?
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Him should represent balance
balance from temperature stand point
location = equatorial
island = between 2 seas
date born = kinda 180 days toward Dec
and kinda 180 Day toward Jan

the land must represent multiculture diversity
we talk something that observe when human almost reach
tech singularity


will sync a lot by movie song
some old soul without he knowing keep help him
and even sacrifice for him
(he keep ask who or what he is)

but he dont have any magic to show
made him so humble, easy to tear, to laugh, to smile
as has equal feminine side, reason easy to mocked him
from physical

has big heart, not into any religious text book

when he sleep, he dream awake
he or the other him then open the door to re-script
with what he sees, what lies he hear, what people he
encounter, intention then open tiny opportunity
to ripple across time and space


he woke up and wonder himself sometimes feel bit
different

Green (him) can grow
or sadness
the condition he observe if happy and balance
make him smile like droplet a water
maybe the bucket can be full

and reach a point where/when he can spark
the love he seek

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drop by drop
will it increase or decrease
when is the bucket will fully filled?
the label on top of bucket called LOVE

hf

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blue is violet, 4 7 is still 7 4 too
Gold(69) Silver(47) bridge
Green Need lots of rain (not hot/cold)
Cancer (also 47)
Cygnus (also Swan)
License for Celestial Navi
the cross of 69 and 47
produce the 13, 6+7 or 9+4
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Look deeper


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Here's your 'deeper': your roles are sharply compartmentalized, so that your shock at my reaction to you as the 'peace and light' counterparts to the 'threats and deception' squads is likely genuine. But there are no individuals here, so you're going to have to deal with it, as nice as you may be. Do I have the power to destroy the world? No, I will be saddled with the responsibility for those who do because they cannot hide behind someone of my status. And if people so powerful cannot even be named in connection with responsibility, then why do you persist in telling me that it is essential to power? They lie, you lie, and I am lied to because I am poor and weak.

You're a liar too in that sense. And presented with the possibility of the world being destroyed, you come close to cutting right through that BS about 'this world,' because under all your metaphysical language, you know that this world is the only one there is. By extension, the same thing with the afterlife where, not satisfied with threatening earthly torments, you have gone further to suggest that 'God' will punish me for what sins I 'got away with' here on earth.

It's all lies, and you are a teller of their lies because you are scared. Myself, I'm dangerously unstable, no small thanks to your stupid and unwavering dedication to the orders of psychopaths. There's nothing you can do. There is no hope, not for you, not for your loved ones. You fucked up my life way too bad for me to ever consider seeing you as any deeper than the aliases and avatars you hide behind. More, this was a calculated risk, so as much as you force me to confront my mortality, I know also that you must come to grips with your 'fungible' status.

This is written into the plan. It motivates you to torture me. Did I do that? Or did those bosses you are by now constitutionally unable to stand up to or criticize in any capacity? There is no psychopath here, but the person who is following their orders. You're evil, you did evil things, and you are both collectively and individually as well as personally responsible for them in my eyes.
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Thinking isn’t knowing.

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“The student is not above the teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like their teacher.”

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The 90s were cool right? i have an insecurity about it.
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Thinking isn’t knowing.


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And facts aren't truth, right? That Nietzschean perspectivism ought to have died in the camps where it justly landed its first proponents. Knowledge is a category of power. Everyone can think, but knowledge requires access to it. If thinking isn't knowledge, it's only because people like you hide knowledge--yet another reason you always get what you deserve.
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sorry, just feeling like i dodged a bullet
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sorry, just feeling like i dodged a bullet
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Me too.
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sorry, just feeling like i dodged a bullet
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Me too.
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Thinking isn’t knowing.


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And facts aren't truth, right? That Nietzschean perspectivism ought to have died in the camps where it justly landed its first proponents. Knowledge is a category of power. Everyone can think, but knowledge requires access to it. If thinking isn't knowledge, it's only because people like you hide knowledge--yet another reason you always get what you deserve.
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noting is hidden. you just refuse to see the forest.





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Thinking isn’t knowing.


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And facts aren't truth, right? That Nietzschean perspectivism ought to have died in the camps where it justly landed its first proponents. Knowledge is a category of power. Everyone can think, but knowledge requires access to it. If thinking isn't knowledge, it's only because people like you hide knowledge--yet another reason you always get what you deserve.
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noting is hidden. you just refuse to see the forest.





no shortcuts in the game of life. some content is mandatory to progress.
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This is the kind of thing you've said to me in more candid moments about 'compassion': "Outside my home, on the lot I rent, among my neighbors, in the trees, there is a large stump. Say, four feet across.

He's kinda flat but kinda not. As any treesman knows (I am surrounded by treefellers who are my favorite people because trees are our ultimate renewable plant resource, FACT), a tree rarely gets cut flat across, but instead, you cut one notch and then you cut a higher notch on the opposite side (I think???) and then the tree falls right where you want. But then you have a typical, step-stump with snapped middle part, which , is what I have.

I have thought all Winter about what to do with him. He is under the ground, I sense he is alive, he has those sort of nodules growing up, but I feel he has given up on the tree portion of himself and is just nursing his pain down there.

I was gonna cut him off flat, and make a sort of nice meditation spot on him, because the shade is nice right there, but, how the hell do I cut him flat all the way across?

A doofus like me would go out there with my reciprocating saw, and just spend a couple hours, slowly nibbling the raised part off, and it still wouldn't be flat, LOL. Anyway another neighbor told me to just park my truck over him, but it just seems wrong, my truck is high enough, but, it's disrespectful to both my truck and the stump, imo."

All I have to do on the approach of weakness--ie, what you call with respect to yourself trust, love, compassion, faith, etc--is remember how you acted when you thought yourselves in a position of strength. I think you're tough enough to face your enemies alone, don't you? Otherwise, why did you put on the tough guy face? And there's a lot more where that came from.





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