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Something about Epstein's death that I think we are overlooking and which might be the most troubling aspect of all.
Since Epstein won't be going to trial wouldn't that mean that all the evidence against him is thrown out or ruled inconclusive? I don't know a lot about law, maybe someone with more knowledge can chime in and let us know what to expect? If there were any justice at all couldn't this become a Posthumous trial? I really don't see TPTB allowing this case to go any further and since he's dead I only see one thing happening now...

Denial. Denial. Denial.

No proof to claims.

No substantial evidence.

All the research that countless individuals have dug up and compiled will be laughed off and scoffed at by the media and anyone in a position of power as 'conspiracy'.

And with 'conspiracy theorists' branded the new domestic terrorists as well as those who follow QANON and pizzagate, well, it puts a bad taste in my mouth that those who push for more Epstein related research to come out can and will likely be silenced, perhaps even by force and imprisonment.

I've seen people calling to arms today, that Epstein was the 'shot heard around the world' and more calls to violent uprisings which I believe are the stirrings of more false flag planned attacks. Have some unhinged 'conspiracy theorist' go shoot up a bunch of people because they believe they are tied to some 'child sex trafficking ring' 'pizzagate' conspiracy and just so happen to mention QANON in their 'manifesto' and it's all over.

We are right there.

This could happen any day.

What will we do then?
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Very tidy, isn't it? :)
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Very tidy, isn't it? :)
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TPTB will squash any and all opposition and use as much force as necessary.

Those who speak out against a 'child sex trafficking ring at the highest levels of government and politics that involves cannibalism, adrenochrome and organ harvesting' is going to be silenced and removed (i.e. black bagged).

I know I sound like a fear monger by saying that but the direction things are going right now that's not too far fetched.

Stay vigilant, friends.
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Very tidy, isn't it? :)
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TPTB will squash any and all opposition and use as much force as necessary.

Those who speak out against a 'child sex trafficking ring at the highest levels of government and politics that involves cannibalism, adrenochrome and organ harvesting' is going to be silenced and removed (i.e. black bagged).

I know I sound like a fear monger by saying that but the direction things are going right now that's not too far fetched.

Stay vigilant, friends.
 Quoting: lumen naturae


agreed
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Since Epstein won't be going to trial wouldn't that mean that all the evidence against him is thrown out or ruled inconclusive? I don't know a lot about law, maybe someone with more knowledge can chime in and let us know what to expect? If there were any justice at all couldn't this become a Posthumous trial? I really don't see TPTB allowing this case to go any further and since he's dead I only see one thing happening now...

Denial. Denial. Denial.

No proof to claims.

No substantial evidence.

All the research that countless individuals have dug up and compiled will be laughed off and scoffed at by the media and anyone in a position of power as 'conspiracy'.

And with 'conspiracy theorists' branded the new domestic terrorists as well as those who follow QANON and pizzagate, well, it puts a bad taste in my mouth that those who push for more Epstein related research to come out can and will likely be silenced, perhaps even by force and imprisonment.

I've seen people calling to arms today, that Epstein was the 'shot heard around the world' and more calls to violent uprisings which I believe are the stirrings of more false flag planned attacks. Have some unhinged 'conspiracy theorist' go shoot up a bunch of people because they believe they are tied to some 'child sex trafficking ring' 'pizzagate' conspiracy and just so happen to mention QANON in their 'manifesto' and it's all over.

We are right there.

This could happen any day.

What will we do then?
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Video is still video. Its pretty easy to tell if video has been doctored. If they have video they dont need him. More then likely some foreign government has the videos and now they have him too......
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Re: Something about Epstein's death that I think we are overlooking and which might be the most troubling aspect of all.
Since Epstein won't be going to trial wouldn't that mean that all the evidence against him is thrown out or ruled inconclusive? I don't know a lot about law, maybe someone with more knowledge can chime in and let us know what to expect? If there were any justice at all couldn't this become a Posthumous trial? I really don't see TPTB allowing this case to go any further and since he's dead I only see one thing happening now...

Denial. Denial. Denial.

No proof to claims.

No substantial evidence.

All the research that countless individuals have dug up and compiled will be laughed off and scoffed at by the media and anyone in a position of power as 'conspiracy'.

And with 'conspiracy theorists' branded the new domestic terrorists as well as those who follow QANON and pizzagate, well, it puts a bad taste in my mouth that those who push for more Epstein related research to come out can and will likely be silenced, perhaps even by force and imprisonment.

I've seen people calling to arms today, that Epstein was the 'shot heard around the world' and more calls to violent uprisings which I believe are the stirrings of more false flag planned attacks. Have some unhinged 'conspiracy theorist' go shoot up a bunch of people because they believe they are tied to some 'child sex trafficking ring' 'pizzagate' conspiracy and just so happen to mention QANON in their 'manifesto' and it's all over.

We are right there.

This could happen any day.

What will we do then?
 Quoting: lumen naturae


What about that lady that is in every picture with him? The lady who setup the underage girls with Bill? Someone has to inherit the island. She's just as guilty
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Will all the evidence be lost??
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Since Epstein won't be going to trial wouldn't that mean that all the evidence against him is thrown out or ruled inconclusive? I don't know a lot about law, maybe someone with more knowledge can chime in and let us know what to expect? If there were any justice at all couldn't this become a Posthumous trial? I really don't see TPTB allowing this case to go any further and since he's dead I only see one thing happening now...

Denial. Denial. Denial.

No proof to claims.

No substantial evidence.

All the research that countless individuals have dug up and compiled will be laughed off and scoffed at by the media and anyone in a position of power as 'conspiracy'.

And with 'conspiracy theorists' branded the new domestic terrorists as well as those who follow QANON and pizzagate, well, it puts a bad taste in my mouth that those who push for more Epstein related research to come out can and will likely be silenced, perhaps even by force and imprisonment.

I've seen people calling to arms today, that Epstein was the 'shot heard around the world' and more calls to violent uprisings which I believe are the stirrings of more false flag planned attacks. Have some unhinged 'conspiracy theorist' go shoot up a bunch of people because they believe they are tied to some 'child sex trafficking ring' 'pizzagate' conspiracy and just so happen to mention QANON in their 'manifesto' and it's all over.

We are right there.

This could happen any day.

What will we do then?
 Quoting: lumen naturae


What about that lady that is in every picture with him? The lady who setup the underage girls with Bill? Someone has to inherit the island. She's just as guilty
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Ghislaine Maxwell? Yeah, I think she is definitely just as guilty. Will they investigate her? I'm not sure. We will have to wait and see. I don't think this case is going to move any further. I hope I'm wrong.
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Will all the evidence be lost??
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If not lost, I'm sure it will be memory holed by some kind of false flag here in the next 48 hours.
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FBI ... Cleanup on aisle three
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Pretty sure a bunch of it hit the net yesterday did it not? Anything useful? I have not had time to look.
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There is still the pimp named Maxwell.
She is still alive, isn't she?
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Since Epstein won't be going to trial wouldn't that mean that all the evidence against him is thrown out or ruled inconclusive? I don't know a lot about law, maybe someone with more knowledge can chime in and let us know what to expect? If there were any justice at all couldn't this become a Posthumous trial? I really don't see TPTB allowing this case to go any further and since he's dead I only see one thing happening now...

Denial. Denial. Denial.

No proof to claims.

No substantial evidence.

All the research that countless individuals have dug up and compiled will be laughed off and scoffed at by the media and anyone in a position of power as 'conspiracy'.

And with 'conspiracy theorists' branded the new domestic terrorists as well as those who follow QANON and pizzagate, well, it puts a bad taste in my mouth that those who push for more Epstein related research to come out can and will likely be silenced, perhaps even by force and imprisonment.

I've seen people calling to arms today, that Epstein was the 'shot heard around the world' and more calls to violent uprisings which I believe are the stirrings of more false flag planned attacks. Have some unhinged 'conspiracy theorist' go shoot up a bunch of people because they believe they are tied to some 'child sex trafficking ring' 'pizzagate' conspiracy and just so happen to mention QANON in their 'manifesto' and it's all over.

We are right there.

This could happen any day.

What will we do then?
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There is still the pimp named Maxwell.
She is still alive, isn't she?
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She needs to be brought into custody ASAP.

If there's going to be any justice done at all.
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So what happened to him? Poison? some kind of 'death ray' will autopsy findings be revealed? Is he really dead?
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That is billionaire justice. He is likely on a new island by now. Trust no one in government today, not even potus.
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Very tidy, isn't it? :)
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TPTB will squash any and all opposition and use as much force as necessary.

Those who speak out against a 'child sex trafficking ring at the highest levels of government and politics that involves cannibalism, adrenochrome and organ harvesting' is going to be silenced and removed (i.e. black bagged).

I know I sound like a fear monger by saying that but the direction things are going right now that's not too far fetched.

Stay vigilant, friends.
 Quoting: lumen naturae


I am just throwing this out there. In Nancy Pelosi's book she brags that she learned to write as a child by keeping the BOOK for her mobster father of all favors granted and favors owed.

Ask yourself who has the most to lose? Many in the democrat party..

Nancy was at the same hotel with El Chappo's wife and the ex-president of Mexico when she and her CREW were in Italy in July. This last week Pelosi and her CREW visited Guatemala??

El Chappo was in the same jail as Epstein?? El Chappo has major power even from behind bars....

Just asking????

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Since Epstein won't be going to trial wouldn't that mean that all the evidence against him is thrown out or ruled inconclusive? I don't know a lot about law, maybe someone with more knowledge can chime in and let us know what to expect? If there were any justice at all couldn't this become a Posthumous trial? I really don't see TPTB allowing this case to go any further and since he's dead I only see one thing happening now...

Denial. Denial. Denial.

No proof to claims.

No substantial evidence.

All the research that countless individuals have dug up and compiled will be laughed off and scoffed at by the media and anyone in a position of power as 'conspiracy'.

And with 'conspiracy theorists' branded the new domestic terrorists as well as those who follow QANON and pizzagate, well, it puts a bad taste in my mouth that those who push for more Epstein related research to come out can and will likely be silenced, perhaps even by force and imprisonment.

I've seen people calling to arms today, that Epstein was the 'shot heard around the world' and more calls to violent uprisings which I believe are the stirrings of more false flag planned attacks. Have some unhinged 'conspiracy theorist' go shoot up a bunch of people because they believe they are tied to some 'child sex trafficking ring' 'pizzagate' conspiracy and just so happen to mention QANON in their 'manifesto' and it's all over.

We are right there.

This could happen any day.

What will we do then?
 Quoting: lumen naturae


What about that lady that is in every picture with him? The lady who setup the underage girls with Bill? Someone has to inherit the island. She's just as guilty
 Quoting: MyPillow


Ghislaine Maxwell? Yeah, I think she is definitely just as guilty. Will they investigate her? I'm not sure. We will have to wait and see. I don't think this case is going to move any further. I hope I'm wrong.
 Quoting: lumen naturae


She knows just as much or more than Epstein did. She was the one that recruited girls and made arrangements.
Remember the other day someone posted she'd been called to testify to congress or some such (Sorry I can't find the thread or where it was posted).
Her attorneys say they have an address for her in London, but couldn't reach her. Don't know where she is. She is in hiding. Hidden very well, most likely by people involved in this. Or she is dead also.
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If anyone in our government, INCLUDING TRUMP, has a set of balls, they would go and “detain” Prince Andrew right now. He’s a witness and needs to be interviewed.

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You're wrong.
Epstein was the only one with legal standing to contest the legality of the search warrant executed on his house in NY.
They found A LOT in that house.
And second, the team in SDNY that is investigating this is not the criminal or vice team, it is the corruption investigations team.
They have all that evidence and nobody to contest how they got it, making all that evidence permissible in other cases.
Just because that asshole has killed himself, or most probably was helped in killing himself, does not make any of that evidence go away.
I expect more people suddenly dying, eG Ms Maxwell, Epsteins main pimp and confidant, soon.
Just look at all the papers made public yesterday, naming a lot of names and actions.
BTW the one name that was in that published disposition who didn't diddle any of the girl was Trump, just for you Never-Trumpers and SJWs out there.
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The End !!
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The Clinton's discovered early, that death of any and all witnesses eliminated any type of trial or justice in our system.
Even murdering a sitting Supreme Court Justice.

If we learned anything from the President Kennedy assassination, EVERYTHING CAN BE BURIED!
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It is possible for any kind of congressional body that investigate the issues related to the handling of this at all stages, and hold accountable the many conspirators that had to go along with this for the man to have walked free for so long.

Epstein may have been just the tip of the iceberg but there is a big chuck left just under the surface. I don't see how there cannot be a truth commission on all this. What do spend 100s of billions on intel agencies, police courts and military only to allow these kinds of abuses on children and the vulnerable go unpunished and ignored?
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Well, they could always go after his handler...Gislaine Maxwell, or whatever that chicks name is.
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This "death" was sanctioned, Trump would have known about it and they would have spun him the line that the Epstein case would bring down America if allowed to continue.

The only time any of this shit will come to justice is if the citizens rise up and take to the streets demanding answers and that will never happen.

The elites who run this world have been doing it for a long time and are very good at it. They have the odd set back but always get control of the situation and regain control.
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Pretty sure a bunch of it hit the net yesterday did it not? Anything useful? I have not had time to look.
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I heard Marvin Minsky was on the list !
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Since Epstein won't be going to trial wouldn't that mean that all the evidence against him is thrown out or ruled inconclusive? I don't know a lot about law, maybe someone with more knowledge can chime in and let us know what to expect? If there were any justice at all couldn't this become a Posthumous trial? I really don't see TPTB allowing this case to go any further and since he's dead I only see one thing happening now...

Denial. Denial. Denial.

No proof to claims.

No substantial evidence.

All the research that countless individuals have dug up and compiled will be laughed off and scoffed at by the media and anyone in a position of power as 'conspiracy'.

And with 'conspiracy theorists' branded the new domestic terrorists as well as those who follow QANON and pizzagate, well, it puts a bad taste in my mouth that those who push for more Epstein related research to come out can and will likely be silenced, perhaps even by force and imprisonment.

I've seen people calling to arms today, that Epstein was the 'shot heard around the world' and more calls to violent uprisings which I believe are the stirrings of more false flag planned attacks. Have some unhinged 'conspiracy theorist' go shoot up a bunch of people because they believe they are tied to some 'child sex trafficking ring' 'pizzagate' conspiracy and just so happen to mention QANON in their 'manifesto' and it's all over.

We are right there.

This could happen any day.

What will we do then?
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Since Epstein won't be going to trial wouldn't that mean that all the evidence against him is thrown out or ruled inconclusive?
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Do we even care about the evidence against him?

I thought the major interest was in the men who used his services, and for that, all you need are the girls involved, like the one who says she slept with the prince, etc.

Take Clinton, for example. If he was with girls on the island, who's a better witness to what occurred - Epstein, or the girl he was with?

The only thing lost with the loss of Epstein is what he could've confessed and who he could've named. But the girls can also name the men, and it's not like Epstein would have been in the room with them as a witness.
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Very tidy, isn't it? :)
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TPTB will squash any and all opposition and use as much force as necessary.

Those who speak out against a 'child sex trafficking ring at the highest levels of government and politics that involves cannibalism, adrenochrome and organ harvesting' is going to be silenced and removed (i.e. black bagged).

I know I sound like a fear monger by saying that but the direction things are going right now that's not too far fetched.

Stay vigilant, friends.
 Quoting: lumen naturae


those who speak will have a much better chance of surviving than those who promised to keep the secret. don't believe for one moment than you can trust evil, you can't!
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1st of all who tf is this guy anyway lol.......
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Since Epstein won't be going to trial wouldn't that mean that all the evidence against him is thrown out or ruled inconclusive?
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Do we even care about the evidence against him?

I thought the major interest was in the men who used his services, and for that, all you need are the girls involved, like the one who says she slept with the prince, etc.

Take Clinton, for example. If he was with girls on the island, who's a better witness to what occurred - Epstein, or the girl he was with?

The only thing lost with the loss of Epstein is what he could've confessed and who he could've named. But the girls can also name the men,
and it's not like Epstein would have been in the room with them as a witness.
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Unfortunately, I don't think that's going to get much traction. Sorry to say.





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