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Where is this going to end up? Ban on body armor?

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Feds: Dayton shooter's friend bought him body armor, gun accessory

DAYTON, Ohio (AP) — A friend of the Dayton gunman who killed nine people told federal agents he bought him body armor, a gun accessory and a 100-round magazine earlier this year, according to a court document unsealed Monday.

The charging document says Ethan Kollie bought the items for Connor Betts and kept them at his apartment so his friend's parents would not find them.

Prosecutors on Monday unsealed a charge against Kollie that accused him of lying about not using marijuana on federal firearms forms in the purchase of a pistol that was not used in the shooting.

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While investigators haven’t said what motivated Betts to open fire, his Twitter feed was replete with anti-President Donald Trump and anti-Republican content, while he expressed support for socialism, gun control, and environmentalism.

Betts also pushed for violence against so-called “fascists,” a term increasingly used by leftist activists to describe average conservatives.

In one case, he replied to a Buzzfeed story and wrote: “Kill every fascist.” He shared an article from the New Republic about an alleged “global fascist movement,” and shared posts doxxing people who users said attended a pro-Ku Klux Klan rally in Dayton, writing, “Know your enemies.”

Betts shared videos from Some More News that were anti-Republican, including one from host Cody Johnston that claimed “the president wants to shoot migrants at the border.”

Betts described immigration detention centers as “concentration camps,” writing on Twitter: “Cut the fences down. Slice ICE tires. Throw bolt cutters over the fences.” The hyperbolic language, popularized by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), was also used recently by a 69-year-old Antifa member who attacked an immigration facility in Washington state before being shot dead.
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Pro tip: Don't do straw purchases of firearms or equipment for satan worshipping, goon-eyed psychopaths or you can rot in prison along with this retarded mutt here.
If he knew the murderer was a psycho (and how could he not?), that leaves the responsibility for his murders right on this dildo's doorstep.
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Talk about a stretch...and you don't think they will try to take our guns illegally?
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Prosecutors on Monday unsealed a charge against Kollie that accused him of lying about not using marijuana on federal firearms forms in the purchase of a pistol that was not used in the shooting.

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Cannabis kills people.
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Where is this going to end up? Ban on body armor?

Check out the guy's photo.

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Feds: Dayton shooter's friend bought him body armor, gun accessory

DAYTON, Ohio (AP) — A friend of the Dayton gunman who killed nine people told federal agents he bought him body armor, a gun accessory and a 100-round magazine earlier this year, according to a court document unsealed Monday.

The charging document says Ethan Kollie bought the items for Connor Betts and kept them at his apartment so his friend's parents would not find them.

Prosecutors on Monday unsealed a charge against Kollie that accused him of lying about not using marijuana on federal firearms forms in the purchase of a pistol that was not used in the shooting.

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He doesn’t look like an Ethan Kollie
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the gun is only the receiver. not the barrel, not a shroud, not a mag. straw purchases do not apply. You dont fill out paper work for those things. Not sure on body armor laws, however.
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the gun is only the receiver. not the barrel, not a shroud, not a mag. straw purchases do not apply. You dont fill out paper work for those things. Not sure on body armor laws, however.
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No. They couldn't get him on any of that shit, so they got him for lying on the 4473 form. They probably got pictures off his facebook of him smoking pot or something.


Perfect example of why you don't post dumb shit on the internet.

They had to get him for something, because the shooter is dead, people want to see something here.... this is nothing though.
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I thought that Drum magazines were illegal in Ohio. Any magazine holding over 30 rounds is illegal the last I heard there.

But we already know that criminals do not abide by the gun control laws.

Johnny-Good-Citizen obeys laws, while Johnny-Bad-Citizen doesnt care about the law. Thus criminals have an advantage, and the gun-control advocates like it that way.
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Talk about a stretch...and you don't think they will try to take our guns illegally?
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This
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He bought the AR15 lower, body armor and 100 rd drum.
Then he let him assemble the gun in his apartment and hid it there from his parents (who knew he was crazy).
He's an accomplice and should rot in the hoosegow.
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Can we address this, without emotion, and apply some logic for a moment here?

Long rifles, like the AR-15, belong in places where there is room to shoot it. Maybe Midwestern states, down South in some parts, Vermont and so on.

Perhaps the ban should be limited, to a zone, say within a certain radius of a major city, which can be outlined by outlaying markers on every major road, train, water way or access point to that area, which states that such weapons are then prohibited.

That way, people who hunt and own guns responsibly, are not treated like criminals, are not stripped of their 2nd Amendment rights and there's an added degree of safety from having such weapons being fired in close proximity to others.

Because, not for nothing, back when the 2nd Amendment was written, there were no suburbs and large cities like New York, Atlanta, Los Angeles, Chicago, Las Vegas and the likes.

Within suburban areas which have homes within or under, 500 feet of each other, only a shotgun or hand pistol should be permitted and this verification, licensing and such, could be further tied to the owner or renters proof of land deed at the county office showing that property, relative to any adjacent ones.

That way, people can also still protect themselves, without shooting a round through sheet rock and accidentally killing their next door neighbor by accident.

Just an idea, don't come down too hard on me with criticism here.
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Talk about a stretch...and you don't think they will try to take our guns illegally?
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He's screwed:

"felony murder": If you participate in a bank robbery and your robber buddy kills somebody . ; You can be charged with a homicide.You had a hand in it.
from the wiki:

("The rule of felony murder is a legal doctrine in some common law jurisdictions that broadens the crime of murder: when an offender kills (regardless of intent to kill) in the commission of a dangerous or enumerated crime (called a felony in some jurisdictions), the offender, and also the offender's accomplices or co-conspirators, may be found guilty of murder.

The concept of felony murder originates in the rule of transferred intent, which is older than the limit of legal memory. In its original form, the malicious intent inherent in the commission of any crime, however trivial, was considered to apply to any consequences of that crime, however unintended.")

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I don’t remember him using a drum on the rifle.
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I don’t remember him using a drum on the rifle.
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he did
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ANTIFA.
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the gun is only the receiver. not the barrel, not a shroud, not a mag. straw purchases do not apply. You dont fill out paper work for those things. Not sure on body armor laws, however.
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No. They couldn't get him on any of that shit, so they got him for lying on the 4473 form. They probably got pictures off his facebook of him smoking pot or something.


Perfect example of why you don't post dumb shit on the internet.

They had to get him for something, because the shooter is dead, people want to see something here.... this is nothing though.
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How exactly do you have a “picture” of exactly what you are smoking?
What a weak sauce charge.
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the gun is only the receiver. not the barrel, not a shroud, not a mag. straw purchases do not apply. You dont fill out paper work for those things. Not sure on body armor laws, however.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75823179



No. They couldn't get him on any of that shit, so they got him for lying on the 4473 form. They probably got pictures off his facebook of him smoking pot or something.


Perfect example of why you don't post dumb shit on the internet.

They had to get him for something, because the shooter is dead, people want to see something here.... this is nothing though.
 Quoting: Irredeemable


He grows mushrooms in his apartment. He told the cops all this himself. He told them he lied on the forms because otherwise he couldn't buy the crap.
He's literally screwed. So stupid it hurts.
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I don’t remember him using a drum on the rifle.
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This was the Ohio shooter not the Walmart shooter.
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The story subtly changes, from an upper to a lower...
=but here's the scoop on the idiot.
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the gun is only the receiver. not the barrel, not a shroud, not a mag. straw purchases do not apply. You dont fill out paper work for those things. Not sure on body armor laws, however.
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No. They couldn't get him on any of that shit, so they got him for lying on the 4473 form. They probably got pictures off his facebook of him smoking pot or something.


Perfect example of why you don't post dumb shit on the internet.

They had to get him for something, because the shooter is dead, people want to see something here.... this is nothing though.
 Quoting: Irredeemable


He grows mushrooms in his apartment. He told the cops all this himself. He told them he lied on the forms because otherwise he couldn't buy the crap.
He's literally screwed. So stupid it hurts.
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There ya go. The dumbass admitted to it on his own.


None of the other shit was a crime, even the drum mag. Maybe it's banned in Ohio, but the ATF only enforces fed gun laws, not state gun laws.
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The story subtly changes, from an upper to a lower...
=but here's the scoop on the idiot.
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Oh, well then if he bought a lower and gave it to shooter, then yes, that is a straw purchase.

It didn't say that in the original article. Probably because as usual, the media has no fucking clue how guns even work, letalone the laws about them.
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The story subtly changes, from an upper to a lower...
=but here's the scoop on the idiot.
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Oh, well then if he bought a lower and gave it to shooter, then yes, that is a straw purchase.

It didn't say that in the original article. Probably because as usual, the media has no fucking clue how guns even work, letalone the laws about them.
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I must apologize as the changes in the story have me confused now. He told the cops all they need to hang him. That I am sure of.
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The story subtly changes, from an upper to a lower...
=but here's the scoop on the idiot.
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Oh, well then if he bought a lower and gave it to shooter, then yes, that is a straw purchase.

It didn't say that in the original article. Probably because as usual, the media has no fucking clue how guns even work, letalone the laws about them.
 Quoting: Irredeemable


I must apologize as the changes in the story have me confused now. He told the cops all they need to hang him. That I am sure of.
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It might have been an upper. The different papers are all muddying the water.
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Lesson learned, dont fucking talk to cops or federal agents without a lawyer. And dont incriminate yourself....
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Where is this going to end up? Ban on body armor?

Check out the guy's photo.

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Feds: Dayton shooter's friend bought him body armor, gun accessory

DAYTON, Ohio (AP) — A friend of the Dayton gunman who killed nine people told federal agents he bought him body armor, a gun accessory and a 100-round magazine earlier this year, according to a court document unsealed Monday.

The charging document says Ethan Kollie bought the items for Connor Betts and kept them at his apartment so his friend's parents would not find them.

Prosecutors on Monday unsealed a charge against Kollie that accused him of lying about not using marijuana on federal firearms forms in the purchase of a pistol that was not used in the shooting.

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He doesn’t look like an Ethan Kollie
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Agreed. He's probably a muzz FBI provocateur who helped frame the "shooter".

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Pro tip: Don't do straw purchases of firearms or equipment for satan worshipping, goon-eyed psychopaths or you can rot in prison along with this retarded mutt here.
If he knew the murderer was a psycho (and how could he not?), that leaves the responsibility for his murders right on this dildo's doorstep.
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Nothing illegal with what he bought him and no straw purchase.
A straw purchase is when you buy a firearm for someone else so they don't have to fill out a 4473 form.

"A longtime friend of the Dayton gunman bought the body armor, a 100-round magazine, and a gun accessory"

The illegal part is when both of them lied about not using illegal drugs on their 4473 form when they purchased the firearms.
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More evidence that in time pot will be a crucial part of the plans to disarm.
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I don’t remember him using a drum on the rifle.
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Hmmm.... charged. He must be a white male. Just an observation - not my creation.





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