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they got raided in cincinnati ohio a few years ago too. they still hire illegals..
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That means the penalty are too lenient.
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"Roughly 150 locals attended an August 12 job fair to apply for jobs at the Koch Foods’ plants in Mississippi."

"The job starts at $12 an hour, which is decent pay for the area, Whitley said. “That’s not bad to start, and it can always go up"
 Quoting: javierruizleon


Here's the problem - "Americans" expect $12 an hour for a low-skill job -- and probably expect "health benefits" too

and they would probably complain about "bad working conditions" or "the animals are suffering "

then they wonder why a company would hire "illegals"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592853


That's a load of nonsense if I ever heard one. Piss poor excuse for business owners. I run a manufacturing plant and offer full benefits and good salaries (yes salaries at a manufacturing plant). My neighbor makes this excuse that he hires illegals because no American wants to work in his plant, meanwhile he's clueless how to really run a business, because all he wants is ridiculous margins without thinking things through. The guy has ancient rewinder machines and all illegals operate them. Accident after accident and now he's complaining some high tech competitor moved in the city next to us.
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So these are not included in the jobs Americans don't want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70260206


You must have missed the part where they have 680 openings and 150 Americans showed up to apply. Wonder where all those unemployed Americans are that are sitting at home because the illegals took all their jobs?
 Quoting: Only Original Documents


There aren’t 680 openings.

You missed the part where it says 243 illegals were actually removed. And them another article states the vast majority nearly all were release with a court date waaaaaay in the future.

So the initial news article of over 600 people were then whittled down to 243 people then from those nearly all were released with court date. And of course not a peep on how many were allowed back to work.


Take a look at any large liberal city. Plenty of bums jacking off in the street.
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Capitalism needs slaves without which it fails, the price of chicken will rise or become in short supply, deporting the slaves is a stupid idea.

Why are you deporting slaves when you need them to service your needs for pennies on the dollar?

These people live in substandard conditions and they do a job which most will not.

Hate does not payout, nor does racism.
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This company is owned by the Koch Bros. who are nothing but "Robber Barons". They claim to be "libertarian" but actions speak louder than words...

A true libertarian/capitalist understands that a free market needs to operate free of interference to be effective. The Kochs want to imbalance wages by interfering with the labor supply thereby bringing their costs down. THAT is why they are open borders. OPEN BORDERS IS ANTI-CAPITALISM (Economics 101) because it affects supply/demand dynamics. The ONLY time open borders would be acceptable would be if all economies were operating free market worldwide or the remote possibility of a dire need of labor of some kind.

Anyone who says that so-called "undocumented workers" should be given a free pass is for unfair wages. More than likely such people don't care about that because they are overpaid or they just want to pretend they are "better" than others who are acting "mean". The best way to improve wages is to let the actual market make self-corrections in wages. The market would then LOWER the wages of the less productive and RAISE the wages of others.
 Quoting: Kapitalist


the Koch Bros are like Nazi thugs.. they are not loyal Americans nor are they conservatives.

they should be fined personally for doing this.
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"Roughly 150 locals attended an August 12 job fair to apply for jobs at the Koch Foods’ plants in Mississippi."

"The job starts at $12 an hour, which is decent pay for the area, Whitley said. “That’s not bad to start, and it can always go up"
 Quoting: javierruizleon


Here's the problem - "Americans" expect $12 an hour for a low-skill job -- and probably expect "health benefits" too

and they would probably complain about "bad working conditions" or "the animals are suffering "

then they wonder why a company would hire "illegals"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592853


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"Roughly 150 locals attended an August 12 job fair to apply for jobs at the Koch Foods’ plants in Mississippi."

"The job starts at $12 an hour, which is decent pay for the area, Whitley said. “That’s not bad to start, and it can always go up"
 Quoting: javierruizleon


Where you make $12 and hour after taxes your taking home about $8 and hour and will still need Government help to get buy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8468576


Low income tax bracket means you get your tax money back at the end of the year 9or don't pay at all if you choose the right amount of dependants)
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"Roughly 150 locals attended an August 12 job fair to apply for jobs at the Koch Foods’ plants in Mississippi."

"The job starts at $12 an hour, which is decent pay for the area, Whitley said. “That’s not bad to start, and it can always go up"
 Quoting: javierruizleon


Here's the problem - "Americans" expect $12 an hour for a low-skill job -- and probably expect "health benefits" too

and they would probably complain about "bad working conditions" or "the animals are suffering "

then they wonder why a company would hire "illegals"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592853


I had a $12 a hour job with health care benefits as a warehouse worker filling orders, that was 40 years ago.

How can people think that $12 a hour now is too high to pay someone?
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The company is just gathering new social security numbers for when things simmer down.
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"Roughly 150 locals attended an August 12 job fair to apply for jobs at the Koch Foods’ plants in Mississippi."

"The job starts at $12 an hour, which is decent pay for the area, Whitley said. “That’s not bad to start, and it can always go up"
 Quoting: javierruizleon


Here's the problem - "Americans" expect $12 an hour for a low-skill job -- and probably expect "health benefits" too

and they would probably complain about "bad working conditions" or "the animals are suffering "

then they wonder why a company would hire "illegals"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592853


Doesnt matter what you fucking think. This is a country of laws. Of course stupid fucking businesses are trying to exploit cheap illegal labor for next to nothing, no oversight, no regulations, no taxes. The fact that a dumbass leftist like you wants this to happen means you are a human rights abuser and terrorist in general. get fucked
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Here's the problem - "Americans" expect $12 an hour for a low-skill job -- and probably expect "health benefits" too

and they would probably complain about "bad working conditions" or "the animals are suffering "

then they wonder why a company would hire "illegals"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592853


Here's the problem. If you work for a living, you need to make a living wage. $12 an hour is just barely cutting it. $12 an hour is no windfall amount of money.
 Quoting: Carshing D. Moran


that's your problem...not the employer's. adjust your standard of living or make yourself more valuable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76283130


THIS.

$12 an hour is too much for a job that involves low-level work like cleaning up chicken poop or cutting chicken's beaks off

if I 'm a business owner and an "illegal" will do the same for $7.25 an hour and no health insurence -- and they won't whine and complain ?

guess what? I'm hiring the "illegal"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74605442



You should go to jail yourself. You are the disease that's killing America, you goddam maggot.
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"Roughly 150 locals attended an August 12 job fair to apply for jobs at the Koch Foods’ plants in Mississippi."

"The job starts at $12 an hour, which is decent pay for the area, Whitley said. “That’s not bad to start, and it can always go up"
 Quoting: javierruizleon


Here's the problem - "Americans" expect $12 an hour for a low-skill job -- and probably expect "health benefits" too

and they would probably complain about "bad working conditions" or "the animals are suffering "

then they wonder why a company would hire "illegals"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592853


It's not so much that companies hire illegals, it's that they use Staffing Agencies who send laborers of all creeds to do the low skill job because the company would rather pay $15/hr to the Agency so that they can pay the Temp $10/hr instead of hiring the laborer at $13/hr+benefits & 401K.

Who comes rolling through that door from the Temp Service is a roll of the dice that companies are seemingly willing to undertake just so that their "bottom line" can be bigger at the end of the year by not paying out the benefits, which are costly. So, even if the Hispanics' papers were good, they'd still be kept at arms length by being kept on-board through the Agency.

Unfortunately, Hispanics take the brunt of being taken advantage of in the US because the market to pay them is lower than what they pay other ethnicities to do the same job. Most Hispanics, except for the drunks, figure the $10/hr is a come-up for them, so they do excellent work and are loyal. If only they'd gotten their paperwork in order instead of getting comfortable....

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"Roughly 150 locals attended an August 12 job fair to apply for jobs at the Koch Foods’ plants in Mississippi."

"The job starts at $12 an hour, which is decent pay for the area, Whitley said. “That’s not bad to start, and it can always go up"
 Quoting: javierruizleon


Here's the problem - "Americans" expect $12 an hour for a low-skill job -- and probably expect "health benefits" too

and they would probably complain about "bad working conditions" or "the animals are suffering "

then they wonder why a company would hire "illegals"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592853


Here's the problem. If you work for a living, you need to make a living wage. $12 an hour is just barely cutting it. $12 an hour is no windfall amount of money.
 Quoting: Carshing D. Moran


I'd love to see any of these blowhards live on $12/hr with no assistance from anyone else.
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And you can bet that the new hires will be more Mexican-Americans!



lol 0:35, Mexicans take a nightcourse in Spanish and still get a B

oof!
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Here's the problem - "Americans" expect $12 an hour for a low-skill job -- and probably expect "health benefits" too

and they would probably complain about "bad working conditions" or "the animals are suffering "

then they wonder why a company would hire "illegals"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592853


Here's the problem. If you work for a living, you need to make a living wage. $12 an hour is just barely cutting it. $12 an hour is no windfall amount of money.
 Quoting: Carshing D. Moran


that's your problem...not the employer's. adjust your standard of living or make yourself more valuable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76283130


THIS.

$12 an hour is too much for a job that involves low-level work like cleaning up chicken poop or cutting chicken's beaks off

if I 'm a business owner and an "illegal" will do the same for $7.25 an hour and no health insurence -- and they won't whine and complain ?

guess what? I'm hiring the "illegal"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74605442


*YOU* are the problem.

Adjust the salary you offered 30 years ago for inflation, then tack in increased cost of living, and tell us what you come up with?

A true cost and inflation adjusted minimum wage from 1965 would now be around $21/hr.

It's really that you want more for less.
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"Roughly 150 locals attended an August 12 job fair to apply for jobs at the Koch Foods’ plants in Mississippi."

"The job starts at $12 an hour, which is decent pay for the area, Whitley said. “That’s not bad to start, and it can always go up"
 Quoting: javierruizleon


Here's the problem - "Americans" expect $12 an hour for a low-skill job -- and probably expect "health benefits" too

and they would probably complain about "bad working conditions" or "the animals are suffering "

then they wonder why a company would hire "illegals"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592853


At this point, you’re projecting.
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hesright
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"Roughly 150 locals attended an August 12 job fair to apply for jobs at the Koch Foods’ plants in Mississippi."

"The job starts at $12 an hour, which is decent pay for the area, Whitley said. “That’s not bad to start, and it can always go up"
 Quoting: javierruizleon


Derr takin our jobbbs

Haha
I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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So these are not included in the jobs Americans don't want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70260206


You must have missed the part where they have 680 openings and 150 Americans showed up to apply. Wonder where all those unemployed Americans are that are sitting at home because the illegals took all their jobs?
 Quoting: Only Original Documents


There aren’t 680 openings.

You missed the part where it says 243 illegals were actually removed. And them another article states the vast majority nearly all were release with a court date waaaaaay in the future.

So the initial news article of over 600 people were then whittled down to 243 people then from those nearly all were released with court date. And of course not a peep on how many were allowed back to work.


I have an even better answer. They all moved away to look for work.
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"Roughly 150 locals attended an August 12 job fair to apply for jobs at the Koch Foods’ plants in Mississippi."

"The job starts at $12 an hour, which is decent pay for the area, Whitley said. “That’s not bad to start, and it can always go up"
 Quoting: javierruizleon


Here's the problem - "Americans" expect $12 an hour for a low-skill job -- and probably expect "health benefits" too

and they would probably complain about "bad working conditions" or "the animals are suffering "

then they wonder why a company would hire "illegals"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592853


At this point, you’re projecting.
 Quoting: Fossy


hesright
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77236987




Medicaid IS health benefits. Only real American citizens don't have to steal SSN or identities to get it....

You catching what I'm tossing ya?! Keep eating what they're feeding you. Eventually you'll realize it's Soylent Green -- aka YOUR OWN PEOPLE

And before you call me "racist" think if this would apply or be allowed ANYWHERE else in the world
I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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"Roughly 150 locals attended an August 12 job fair to apply for jobs at the Koch Foods’ plants in Mississippi."

"The job starts at $12 an hour, which is decent pay for the area, Whitley said. “That’s not bad to start, and it can always go up"
 Quoting: javierruizleon


Where you make $12 and hour after taxes your taking home about $8 and hour and will still need Government help to get buy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8468576


If you live in Mississippi, no you fucking don’t. Plus, if you can’t live on 12 dollars an hour, you’re doing something wrong. Get rid of your luxuries. No more Netflix. No more vacations. No more bar outings every weekend.

It forces people to budget. And stop having fucking kids when you can’t afford them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51353379


Lol $10/mth on Netflix what a luxury. Nobody on $12/hr is taking a vacation anywhere.

Bar outings can be surprisingly cheap. They have $12 all you can drink nights around my parts.
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150 black families off welfare
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The Koch's should be held accountable. They finance Republicans to support illegals to save money and lower wages for American citizens.
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So these are not included in the jobs Americans don't want?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70260206


You must have missed the part where they have 680 openings and 150 Americans showed up to apply. Wonder where all those unemployed Americans are that are sitting at home because the illegals took all their jobs?


...pretty far commute if you don't live in Mississippi...
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Anyone supporting illegal labor is a piece of shit nwo dicksucker. Fuck you. The employer should be put in jail. This is the real answer.

If your "business" cannot afford to pay people to work for them, they are NOT A FUCKING BUSINESS and should fail and go away. If profit wasn't the only motive, wages would balance out using real capitalism which doesn't happen.

The people running these fucking corporations have gotten insane increases in salary, while American workers haven't gotten any real raises in 50 fucking years. The problem is not the workers.
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Here's the problem - "Americans" expect $12 an hour for a low-skill job -- and probably expect "health benefits" too

and they would probably complain about "bad working conditions" or "the animals are suffering "

then they wonder why a company would hire "illegals"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592853


Here's the problem. If you work for a living, you need to make a living wage. $12 an hour is just barely cutting it. $12 an hour is no windfall amount of money.
 Quoting: Carshing D. Moran


that's your problem...not the employer's. adjust your standard of living or make yourself more valuable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76283130


THIS.

$12 an hour is too much for a job that involves low-level work like cleaning up chicken poop or cutting chicken's beaks off

if I 'm a business owner and an "illegal" will do the same for $7.25 an hour and no health insurence -- and they won't whine and complain ?

guess what? I'm hiring the "illegal"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74605442
then your business should be shut down and funds confiscated and you should be jailed.
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This company is owned by the Koch Bros. who are nothing but "Robber Barons". They claim to be "libertarian" but actions speak louder than words...

A true libertarian/capitalist understands that a free market needs to operate free of interference to be effective. The Kochs want to imbalance wages by interfering with the labor supply thereby bringing their costs down. THAT is why they are open borders. OPEN BORDERS IS ANTI-CAPITALISM (Economics 101) because it affects supply/demand dynamics. The ONLY time open borders would be acceptable would be if all economies were operating free market worldwide or the remote possibility of a dire need of labor of some kind.

Anyone who says that so-called "undocumented workers" should be given a free pass is for unfair wages. More than likely such people don't care about that because they are overpaid or they just want to pretend they are "better" than others who are acting "mean". The best way to improve wages is to let the actual market make self-corrections in wages. The market would then LOWER the wages of the less productive and RAISE the wages of others.
 Quoting: Kapitalist


the Koch Bros are like Nazi thugs.. they are not loyal Americans nor are they conservatives.

they should be fined personally for doing this.
 Quoting: Rosicrucian1 77892559


This company is owned by the Koch Bros. who are nothing but "Robber Barons". They claim to be "libertarian" but actions speak louder than words...

A true libertarian/capitalist understands that a free market needs to operate free of interference to be effective. The Kochs want to imbalance wages by interfering with the labor supply thereby bringing their costs down. THAT is why they are open borders. OPEN BORDERS IS ANTI-CAPITALISM (Economics 101) because it affects supply/demand dynamics. The ONLY time open borders would be acceptable would be if all economies were operating free market worldwide or the remote possibility of a dire need of labor of some kind.

Anyone who says that so-called "undocumented workers" should be given a free pass is for unfair wages. More than likely such people don't care about that because they are overpaid or they just want to pretend they are "better" than others who are acting "mean". The best way to improve wages is to let the actual market make self-corrections in wages. The market would then LOWER the wages of the less productive and RAISE the wages of others.
 Quoting: Kapitalist


the Koch Bros are like Nazi thugs.. they are not loyal Americans nor are they conservatives.

they should be fined personally for doing this.
 Quoting: Rosicrucian1 77892559



They are ALSO NOT THE OWNERS OF THIS PLANT. Holy crap, the people on this thread yelling about the Koch brothers when they literally have nothing to do with this chicken processing plant. Before you all start throwing "facts" around, know what the facts are.

I would 100% pay a few bucks more for products if it means an American makes the product, be it chicken or a light-bulb. 12.00 an hour in AR is a decent wage for that part of the US.
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The Koch's should be held accountable. They finance Republicans to support illegals to save money and lower wages for American citizens.
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THE KOCH BROTEHERS DO NOT OWN THIS PLANT. My God you lefties are so ill-informed, it's really embarrassing to watch.
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"Roughly 150 locals attended an August 12 job fair to apply for jobs at the Koch Foods’ plants in Mississippi."

"The job starts at $12 an hour, which is decent pay for the area, Whitley said. “That’s not bad to start, and it can always go up"
 Quoting: javierruizleon


Here's the problem - "Americans" expect $12 an hour for a low-skill job -- and probably expect "health benefits" too

and they would probably complain about "bad working conditions" or "the animals are suffering "

then they wonder why a company would hire "illegals"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592853


you re trying too hard
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Capitalism needs slaves without which it fails, the price of chicken will rise or become in short supply, deporting the slaves is a stupid idea.

Why are you deporting slaves when you need them to service your needs for pennies on the dollar?

These people live in substandard conditions and they do a job which most will not.

Hate does not payout, nor does racism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41102344


There's nothing of sort called capitalism being practiced in America today.

Hell you gotta have a SOCIALIST INSECURITY NUMBER to work for nearly any business as the companies want a tax write-off.





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