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Judge Napolitano: Red Flag Gun Laws based on mental health are unconstitutional and illegal! (are thought crimes)

 
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Judge Napolitano just might change his answer if that Sandy Hook kid had aimed his rifle at the judge. There has to be some way to restrain mentally ill people from obtaining guns. We don't let drunk drivers drive because they present a serious risk to the public. We can no longer let mentally disturbed people use guns to kill citizens. Society must choose the safety of innocent civilians over gun rights for the deranged.

There should be due process in the enforcement of so-called Red Flag Gun Laws, just as there is due process by a judge to take away the drivers license of someone who has a DUI arrest. A hearing with testimony from at least two mental health care professionals should allow a judge to revoke gun possession rights of a mentally ill individual.
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well that is what they are aiming to do, but his point

is what are they basing that on??? Thought Crimes??

Or fear of what somebody may or may not do??


By those standards about 90% of GLP could end up being put on the red flag list
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Maybe you should be asking Donald Trump why he supports Red Flag Laws.
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of course they are illegal.

who made the diagnosis? a vengeful socialist declares all white male conservatives are insane?

we're 2 minutes from that happening should bernie win.

blanket statements, blanket actions, not unlike the USSR ~
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Judge Napolitano just might change his answer if that Sandy Hook kid had aimed his rifle at the judge. There has to be some way to restrain mentally ill people from obtaining guns. We don't let drunk drivers drive because they present a serious risk to the public. We can no longer let mentally disturbed people use guns to kill citizens. Society must choose the safety of innocent civilians over gun rights for the deranged.

There should be due process in the enforcement of so-called Red Flag Gun Laws, just as there is due process by a judge to take away the drivers license of someone who has a DUI arrest. A hearing with testimony from at least two mental health care professionals should allow a judge to revoke gun possession rights of a mentally ill individual.
 Quoting: dogman17


well that is what they are aiming to do, but his point

is what are they basing that on??? Thought Crimes??

Or fear of what somebody may or may not do??


By those standards about 90% of GLP could end up being put on the red flag list
 Quoting: Jake


Maybe you should be asking Donald Trump why he supports Red Flag Laws.
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I already know why.

LINDSEY GRAHAM
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Meanwhile....seems Nap agrees with Trump

Trump Tweets Support For Red Flag Laws: ‘Common Sense Things That Are Good For Everyone’

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Trump is losing me fast if he stays on this road!
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Judge Napolitano just might change his answer if that Sandy Hook kid had aimed his rifle at the judge. There has to be some way to restrain mentally ill people from obtaining guns. We don't let drunk drivers drive because they present a serious risk to the public. We can no longer let mentally disturbed people use guns to kill citizens. Society must choose the safety of innocent civilians over gun rights for the deranged.

There should be due process in the enforcement of so-called Red Flag Gun Laws, just as there is due process by a judge to take away the drivers license of someone who has a DUI arrest. A hearing with testimony from at least two mental health care professionals should allow a judge to revoke gun possession rights of a mentally ill individual.
 Quoting: dogman17


well that is what they are aiming to do, but his point

is what are they basing that on??? Thought Crimes??

Or fear of what somebody may or may not do??


By those standards about 90% of GLP could end up being put on the red flag list
 Quoting: Jake


Maybe you should be asking Donald Trump why he supports Red Flag Laws.
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This +1
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of course they are illegal.

who made the diagnosis? a vengeful socialist declares all white male conservatives are insane?

we're 2 minutes from that happening should bernie win.

blanket statements, blanket actions, not unlike the USSR ~
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they have already said it, Trump supporters are white terrorists
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Judge Napolitano just might change his answer if that Sandy Hook kid had aimed his rifle at the judge. There has to be some way to restrain mentally ill people from obtaining guns. We don't let drunk drivers drive because they present a serious risk to the public. We can no longer let mentally disturbed people use guns to kill citizens. Society must choose the safety of innocent civilians over gun rights for the deranged.

There should be due process in the enforcement of so-called Red Flag Gun Laws, just as there is due process by a judge to take away the drivers license of someone who has a DUI arrest. A hearing with testimony from at least two mental health care professionals should allow a judge to revoke gun possession rights of a mentally ill individual.
 Quoting: dogman17


well that is what they are aiming to do, but his point

is what are they basing that on??? Thought Crimes??

Or fear of what somebody may or may not do??


By those standards about 90% of GLP could end up being put on the red flag list
 Quoting: Jake


Maybe you should be asking Donald Trump why he supports Red Flag Laws.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77325223


I already know why.

LINDSEY GRAHAM
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Ohhh...so it's Lindsey Graham's fault. Miss Lindsey says "jump" and Donald Trump asks "how high?"
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well that is what they are aiming to do, but his point

is what are they basing that on??? Thought Crimes??

Or fear of what somebody may or may not do??


By those standards about 90% of GLP could end up being put on the red flag list
 Quoting: Jake


Maybe you should be asking Donald Trump why he supports Red Flag Laws.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77325223


I already know why.

LINDSEY GRAHAM
 Quoting: Jake


Ohhh...so it's Lindsey Graham's fault. Miss Lindsey says "jump" and Donald Trump asks "how high?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77467359


Lindsey Graham wrote the red flag gun laws

and led the congressional hearings on them.

We also know from Wikileaks that he works for Obama

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Just when you think you hate someone. another do
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Maybe you should be asking Donald Trump why he supports Red Flag Laws.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77325223


I already know why.

LINDSEY GRAHAM
 Quoting: Jake


Ohhh...so it's Lindsey Graham's fault. Miss Lindsey says "jump" and Donald Trump asks "how high?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77467359


Lindsey Graham wrote the red flag gun laws

and led the congressional hearings on them.

We also know from Wikileaks that he works for Obama
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Well, he is ghey as fuck.
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Maybe you should be asking Donald Trump why he supports Red Flag Laws.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77325223


I already know why.

LINDSEY GRAHAM
 Quoting: Jake


Ohhh...so it's Lindsey Graham's fault. Miss Lindsey says "jump" and Donald Trump asks "how high?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77467359


Lindsey Graham wrote the red flag gun laws

and led the congressional hearings on them.

We also know from Wikileaks that he works for Obama
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I don't care who wrote them - Trump says he supports those Red Flag laws.
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Here's more from respected Judge Napolitano:

Thread: Judge Napolitano: Trump has unleashed a torrent of hatred. "When the hate speech comes from a shameless president, we have a problem."
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Once they try and convince you that you are insane with all the stupid liberal bullshit questioning and you snap they will declare the red flag.


You know that is the stupid shit they will do.

A real crazy person would buy the gun just to get red flagged then when the doctor questions him he will eat his fkn eyeballs after ripping them from his fkn skull.
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I am not much of a fan of the judge lately, but he is 100 percent right on this.
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Meanwhile....seems Nap does not agree with Trump

Trump Tweets Support For Red Flag Laws: ‘Common Sense Things That Are Good For Everyone’

[link to www.dailywire.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77325223


I am not much of a fan of the judge lately, but he is 100 percent right on this.
 Quoting: The Forever Deplorable Adytum


Even though Nap is disagreeing with Trump? Does that mean you are not much of a fan of Trump on this one?
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"judge" Nap --> poop
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Of course there are valid concerns about it being a slippery slope. However, SOMETHING MUST BE DONE to insure that those with verified SERIOUS psychiatric illnesses(hearing voices, terrorist threats etc.) don't get weapons that have the ability to mow down a lot of people. It's COMMON SENSE.
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Death penalty, long prison sentences or a Nurse Ratchet...
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this will cause trump to lose alot of support and votes
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"judge" Nap --> poop
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rofl5

Hoe Lee Shit that was funny

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Lol
But jakey poo you've been shillin for Trumpstien and the sellout GOP forever!

Time for you to ban me and delete this comment while you rather me out to the FBI.
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Lol
But jakey poo you've been shillin for Trumpstien and the sellout GOP forever!

Time for you to ban me and delete this comment while you rather me out to the FBI.
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fudge bangers inquisition?
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Meanwhile....seems Nap does not agree with Trump

Trump Tweets Support For Red Flag Laws: ‘Common Sense Things That Are Good For Everyone’

[link to www.dailywire.com (secure)]
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I am not much of a fan of the judge lately, but he is 100 percent right on this.
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Even though Nap is disagreeing with Trump? Does that mean you are not much of a fan of Trump on this one?
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I'm willing to wait and SEE what Trump DOES before I judge him.

I don't jump to conclusions.
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You cannot take away somebodies God given right based upon what you think they might do. THat goes for your right to free speech as well, And Criminal background checks do not work.








Moron Lindsey Graham on red flag gun laws.


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Nice, maybe that’s why Trump was for it, he knew Nappy would go against him either way.
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Meanwhile....seems Nap does not agree with Trump

Trump Tweets Support For Red Flag Laws: ‘Common Sense Things That Are Good For Everyone’

[link to www.dailywire.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77325223


I am not much of a fan of the judge lately, but he is 100 percent right on this.
 Quoting: The Forever Deplorable Adytum


Even though Nap is disagreeing with Trump? Does that mean you are not much of a fan of Trump on this one?
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I'm willing to wait and SEE what Trump DOES before I judge him.

I don't jump to conclusions.
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Trumps not going to do an EO on it. If it passes the Senate, he will sign it. If you don’t like it, he’ll say it had bipartisan support by Congress. I ‘be been suggesting people call their Senators. Once it’s signed into law it will be too late.
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It's based on more than 'think'.

When a call goes out for a domestic violence it usually ends up with the man taken to jail, sometimes the woman and sometimes both.
That's also usually done through he said, she said evidence. Unless something really obvious is present.

It's a judgement call that cops make every day and because they have authority sometimes people can be taken away simply for 'disturbing the peace' which can be highly judgmental and sometimes racial or bigoted or the result of a bad day.

When a person is incarcerated under these 'judgement's' its a loss of basic freedom. The 1st right for every human and whose the front-line judge - the police.

Now in the case of red-flag gun laws we aren't talking about a domestic 2-person outcome. The potential is stopping a mass shooting incident.

let's say these laws save 100 people a year, would that be worth some inconvenience to gun-owners. It's the fringe-violent owners (like the punk Connor Betts) that are fuckin things up for all law abiding gun-owners not the red-flag laws currently on the books...so far.

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Red flagged = guilty till proven innocent, guns go first, due process second.....burnit
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Meanwhile....seems Nap does not agree with Trump

Trump Tweets Support For Red Flag Laws: ‘Common Sense Things That Are Good For Everyone’

[link to www.dailywire.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77325223


I am not much of a fan of the judge lately, but he is 100 percent right on this.
 Quoting: The Forever Deplorable Adytum


Even though Nap is disagreeing with Trump? Does that mean you are not much of a fan of Trump on this one?
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I'm willing to wait and SEE what Trump DOES before I judge him.

I don't jump to conclusions.
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Trumps not going to do an EO on it. If it passes the Senate, he will sign it. If you don’t like it, he’ll say it had bipartisan support by Congress. I ‘be been suggesting people call their Senators. Once it’s signed into law it will be too late.
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I'm in CA.


My senators are idiots.
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JN-anti red flag laws
Trump-pro red flag laws
=trumpers confused on how to insult Napolitano.
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5 stars and green for "Trump was setting alarm off" thread
I.have to pay triple attention to work now. I don't know how I've done it, how you do.it, but I still might pop in now and then and keep trolling the forces of darkness relentlessly.
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It's based on more than 'think'.

When a call goes out for a domestic violence it usually ends up with the man taken to jail, sometimes the woman and sometimes both.
That's also usually done through he said, she said evidence. Unless something really obvious is present.

It's a judgement call that cops make every day and because they have authority sometimes people can be taken away simply for 'disturbing the peace' which can be highly judgmental and sometimes racial or bigoted or the result of a bad day.

When a person is incarcerated under these 'judgement's' its a loss of basic freedom. The 1st right for every human and whose the front-line judge - the police.

Now in the case of red-flag gun laws we aren't talking about a domestic 2-person outcome. The potential is stopping a mass shooting incident.

let's say these laws save 100 people a year, would that be worth some inconvenience to gun-owners. It's the fringe-violent owners (like the punk Connor Betts) that are fuckin things up for all law abiding gun-owners not the red-flag laws currently on the books...so far.

.
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Most states already have that domestic violence law

South Carolina Passed it under Nikki Haley.

She signed it into law.

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Even though Nap is disagreeing with Trump? Does that mean you are not much of a fan of Trump on this one?
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I'm willing to wait and SEE what Trump DOES before I judge him.

I don't jump to conclusions.
 Quoting: The Forever Deplorable Adytum


Trumps not going to do an EO on it. If it passes the Senate, he will sign it. If you don’t like it, he’ll say it had bipartisan support by Congress. I ‘be been suggesting people call their Senators. Once it’s signed into law it will be too late.
 Quoting: Mkjeep


I'm in CA.


My senators are idiots.
 Quoting: The Forever Deplorable Adytum

Oooooh you already have a shitload of gun control. It’ll get worse if red flag laws are nationalized.
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