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Philly Police Shooting - Cops Didn't Have Warrant for Maurice Hill's Home. "Safety Sweep" of next door house

 
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In the 70s they had a similar situation.

They took a helicopter and dropped dynamite on it. Blew half the block up. Ah the good ole days.
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If only they had done that again.

Half the major cities need a good razing.
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Do we really need cops anyways? Seriously. If everyone is equally armed it would balance out eventually

I’m thinking peace officers who enforce the peace only, not law enforcement officers who get paid by arresting people and imposing fines for thousands and thousands of laws. It’s all fucked up
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Alleged Philly cop shooter Maurice Hill worked at Chuck E. Cheese and has a new baby, but also a decades-long history of violence

occasionally attended a mosque at 67th Street and Woodland Avenue, where Southwest Philadelphia residents reported seeing him with his ex-wife and son, now 16.

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Chuck e cheese hired that guy??? WTF???
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Chuck E Cheese keeps bouncers at the door to make sure kids don't leave with the wrong adults. As long he was doing a good job, that shouldn't matter.
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Are you people ignoring the fact that man was a piece of shit criminal with a long history, was an armed felon, and kept shooting at police long after the initial “safety sweep” attempt.

That scum has no business ever walking free again, and I sure as hell don’t think the taxpayers should be on the hook to cover his room and board for the next 30-40 years.

Execute him.
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Doesn't excuse violating constitutional rights.
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Are you people ignoring the fact that man was a piece of shit criminal with a long history, was an armed felon, and kept shooting at police long after the initial “safety sweep” attempt.

That scum has no business ever walking free again, and I sure as hell don’t think the taxpayers should be on the hook to cover his room and board for the next 30-40 years.

Execute him.
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True. But that doesn't give the government an excuse to violate anyone's constitutional rights. They got exactly what they deserved. Next time get a warrant fuckin punks.
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Are you people ignoring the fact that man was a piece of shit criminal with a long history, was an armed felon, and kept shooting at police long after the initial “safety sweep” attempt.

That scum has no business ever walking free again, and I sure as hell don’t think the taxpayers should be on the hook to cover his room and board for the next 30-40 years.

Execute him.
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That does not excuse the cops' unconstitutional commie-nazi tactics. There is more than enough blame to spread around.
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Looks like this guy was defending himself from a home invasion. Even released felons have limited rights to self defense.

This case is going to get interesting. The cops had no legal right to bust down his door, and much evidence could be expunged under the "fruit of the poisoned tree".

They will get him with a felon having a firearm, for sure. The rest?

When cops violate the Constitution, they turn that uniform into a fancy costume.
 Quoting: Cheyenne


Just sitting there? Defending against a home invasion?

You people are fucking stupid. Felons have lost their rights to own firearms. If he wanted to defend his drug den with a baseball bat, he still had that right.

Do you sit on your couch armed at a time, as a felon, waiting for a home invasion?

Nobody here was on-site, there very well may have been probably cause to investigate the house next door. They’re all criminals in that hood.
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You are a government worshiper. IDGAF if he was a felon or not the man still has a right to defend his home and family. FOH with that baseball bat garbage
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Maurice Hill worked at Chuck E. Cheese .

wtf
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Turns out the cops busted into Hill's home, which was next to the drug house, without a warrant or probable cause. A "safety sweep" gone bad.

"Law enforcement sources said police did not enter the house looking for Maurice Hill, but were instead executing a search warrant on a house they believed to be a drug stash, and decided to do a “safety sweep” of a nearby home they believed might be involved in the operation.

Police had a search warrant for the purported stash house, at 3712 N. 15th St., but decided to secure the other home, 3716, after seeing what they believed might be drugs or weapons going into that home. They raided both houses almost simultaneously, sources said."

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Now the cops claim they saw a duffel bag being moved from the house in the warrant to Hill's, but at this point they will say anything to save their jobs.
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They will get the same treatment when they show up at somebody's door with that red flag bullshit. Either honor the constitution or be treated like any other run of the mill criminal.
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Are you people ignoring the fact that man was a piece of shit criminal with a long history, was an armed felon, and kept shooting at police long after the initial “safety sweep” attempt.

That scum has no business ever walking free again, and I sure as hell don’t think the taxpayers should be on the hook to cover his room and board for the next 30-40 years.

Execute him.
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These are the views of people who will lose all freedom.
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I guess we know now why cops were caught on video putting fake blood on themselves. Someone get that video to his lawyer.
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Turns out the cops busted into Hill's home, which was next to the drug house, without a warrant or probable cause. A "safety sweep" gone bad.

"Law enforcement sources said police did not enter the house looking for Maurice Hill, but were instead executing a search warrant on a house they believed to be a drug stash, and decided to do a “safety sweep” of a nearby home they believed might be involved in the operation.

Police had a search warrant for the purported stash house, at 3712 N. 15th St., but decided to secure the other home, 3716, after seeing what they believed might be drugs or weapons going into that home. They raided both houses almost simultaneously, sources said."

[link to www.inquirer.com (secure)]

Now the cops claim they saw a duffel bag being moved from the house in the warrant to Hill's, but at this point they will say anything to save their jobs.
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"Police had a search warrant for the purported stash house, at 3712 N. 15th St., but decided to secure the other home, 3716, after seeing what they believed might be drugs or weapons going into that home. They raided both houses almost simultaneously, sources said."

They should have had a warrant for the second house too, then. Is there no expediated way to get a warrant? I understand if someone had been kidnapped and their life was in danger- seconds matter- but not a drug situation.
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The problem with upholding the Constitution is all the dirtbags you have to defend in the process.
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Turns out the cops busted into Hill's home, which was next to the drug house, without a warrant or probable cause. A "safety sweep" gone bad.

"Law enforcement sources said police did not enter the house looking for Maurice Hill, but were instead executing a search warrant on a house they believed to be a drug stash, and decided to do a “safety sweep” of a nearby home they believed might be involved in the operation.

Police had a search warrant for the purported stash house, at 3712 N. 15th St., but decided to secure the other home, 3716, after seeing what they believed might be drugs or weapons going into that home. They raided both houses almost simultaneously, sources said."

[link to www.inquirer.com (secure)]

Now the cops claim they saw a duffel bag being moved from the house in the warrant to Hill's, but at this point they will say anything to save their jobs.
 Quoting: Cheyenne


They just "decided" to "sweep" a neighboring property?

Yeah, they decided the illegally enter another property, but they meant well while they were doing it.

Will the US Supreme Cost carve out another niche of "good faith" in the Swiss Cheese that was once the Fourth Amendment?
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Turns out the cops busted into Hill's home, which was next to the drug house, without a warrant or probable cause. A "safety sweep" gone bad.

"Law enforcement sources said police did not enter the house looking for Maurice Hill, but were instead executing a search warrant on a house they believed to be a drug stash, and decided to do a “safety sweep” of a nearby home they believed might be involved in the operation.

Police had a search warrant for the purported stash house, at 3712 N. 15th St., but decided to secure the other home, 3716, after seeing what they believed might be drugs or weapons going into that home. They raided both houses almost simultaneously, sources said."

[link to www.inquirer.com (secure)]

Now the cops claim they saw a duffel bag being moved from the house in the warrant to Hill's, but at this point they will say anything to save their jobs.
 Quoting: Cheyenne


"Police had a search warrant for the purported stash house, at 3712 N. 15th St., but decided to secure the other home, 3716, after seeing what they believed might be drugs or weapons going into that home. They raided both houses almost simultaneously, sources said."

They should have had a warrant for the second house too, then. Is there no expediated way to get a warrant? I understand if someone had been kidnapped and their life was in danger- seconds matter- but not a drug situation.
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Sounds to me like you're just anti- Law Imposement!

Don't you know that if it was the Cops what dunnit, it was the right thing to do because it was the Cops what dunnit!

'em damm civilians need to learn how to submit and comply!
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Are you people ignoring the fact that man was a piece of shit criminal with a long history, was an armed felon, and kept shooting at police long after the initial “safety sweep” attempt.

That scum has no business ever walking free again, and I sure as hell don’t think the taxpayers should be on the hook to cover his room and board for the next 30-40 years.

Execute him.
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The man could have been Hitler incognito.

I prefer Constitutional rights versus a police state.
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Are you people ignoring the fact that man was a piece of shit criminal with a long history, was an armed felon, and kept shooting at police long after the initial “safety sweep” attempt.

That scum has no business ever walking free again, and I sure as hell don’t think the taxpayers should be on the hook to cover his room and board for the next 30-40 years.

Execute him.
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True. But that doesn't give the government an excuse to violate anyone's constitutional rights. They got exactly what they deserved. Next time get a warrant fuckin punks.
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I'm a law and order guy, but you're right.
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Are you people ignoring the fact that man was a piece of shit criminal with a long history, was an armed felon, and kept shooting at police long after the initial “safety sweep” attempt.

That scum has no business ever walking free again, and I sure as hell don’t think the taxpayers should be on the hook to cover his room and board for the next 30-40 years.

Execute him.
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These are the views of people who will lose all freedom.
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Are you people ignoring the fact that man was a piece of shit criminal with a long history, was an armed felon, and kept shooting at police long after the initial “safety sweep” attempt.

That scum has no business ever walking free again, and I sure as hell don’t think the taxpayers should be on the hook to cover his room and board for the next 30-40 years.

Execute him.
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Doesn't matter. Even piece of shit criminals are protected by the Constitution. The 4th amendment protects everyone in the U.S. from unreasonable search and seizure.

"The Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution provides that "[t]he right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

If this is indeed the case, we won't be paying for this guy's incarceration. We'll be paying a government settlement to recoup him for a Constitutional violation. He had and has the right to protect his 4th amendment rights by exercising his 2nd amendment rights.
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This is nothing compared to the pressure cooker bombers, they shot up the whole fucking neighborhood like a bunch of gang bangers
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Cops harasses poor people to incite them.. so they can arrest them... They are basically a Bully...

But they are afraid to actually enforce the laws against most business or other Gov't employees.

It is all about money.. and power.

My Father ran moonshine for the Chattanooga, TN police commissioner... I even went on moonshine rides... as a young boy.. and did not know what we were doing.

Later another Police Commissioner was busted and sent to jail for not only Moonshine, but shaking bars down for money for illegal slot machines.. he was caught on video threatening the owners.
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Are you people ignoring the fact that man was a piece of shit criminal with a long history, was an armed felon, and kept shooting at police long after the initial “safety sweep” attempt.

That scum has no business ever walking free again, and I sure as hell don’t think the taxpayers should be on the hook to cover his room and board for the next 30-40 years.

Execute him.
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Trump should pardon the man if he's convicted.
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Tree of liberty + blood of tyrants
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Trigger happy wannabe soldiers of fortune. These police thugs bring the hatred they always cry about on themselves.
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It used to be the cops could search the "reachable area" in your car for their safety.

Now, apparently they can search houses around the one with a warrant for "officer safety".

Where does it stop? Why not declare an entire city as a 4th Amendment free zone, all for cop safety?
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You are supporting a cop shooter?
Muslims who are committing terrorism sleeper cell prep?

Really?
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Are you people ignoring the fact that man was a piece of shit criminal with a long history, was an armed felon, and kept shooting at police long after the initial “safety sweep” attempt.

That scum has no business ever walking free again, and I sure as hell don’t think the taxpayers should be on the hook to cover his room and board for the next 30-40 years.

Execute him.
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True. But that doesn't give the government an excuse to violate anyone's constitutional rights. They got exactly what they deserved. Next time get a warrant fuckin punks.
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:Boom:
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Are you people ignoring the fact that man was a piece of shit criminal with a long history, was an armed felon, and kept shooting at police long after the initial “safety sweep” attempt.

That scum has no business ever walking free again, and I sure as hell don’t think the taxpayers should be on the hook to cover his room and board for the next 30-40 years.

Execute him.
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That does not excuse the cops' unconstitutional commie-nazi tactics. There is more than enough blame to spread around.
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Looks like this guy was defending himself from a home invasion. Even released felons have limited rights to self defense.

This case is going to get interesting. The cops had no legal right to bust down his door, and much evidence could be expunged under the "fruit of the poisoned tree".

They will get him with a felon having a firearm, for sure. The rest?

When cops violate the Constitution, they turn that uniform into a fancy costume.
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Just sitting there? Defending against a home invasion?

You people are fucking stupid. Felons have lost their rights to own firearms. If he wanted to defend his drug den with a baseball bat, he still had that right.

Do you sit on your couch armed at a time, as a felon, waiting for a home invasion?

Nobody here was on-site, there very well may have been probably cause to investigate the house next door. They’re all criminals in that hood.
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They're all criminals in that hood
They're all criminals in that area
They're all armed in that town
That whole county has concealed carry laws
That state is considered armed and dangerous

Noticing the slope you're tumbling down?
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Trigger happy wannabe soldiers of fortune. These police thugs bring the hatred they always cry about on themselves.
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Exactly. And they always cry when they get shot, too stupid to realize...
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Are you people ignoring the fact that man was a piece of shit criminal with a long history, was an armed felon, and kept shooting at police long after the initial “safety sweep” attempt.

That scum has no business ever walking free again, and I sure as hell don’t think the taxpayers should be on the hook to cover his room and board for the next 30-40 years.

Execute him.
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That does not excuse the cops' unconstitutional commie-nazi tactics. There is more than enough blame to spread around.
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This.
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Turns out the cops busted into Hill's home, which was next to the drug house, without a warrant or probable cause. A "safety sweep" gone bad.

"Law enforcement sources said police did not enter the house looking for Maurice Hill, but were instead executing a search warrant on a house they believed to be a drug stash, and decided to do a “safety sweep” of a nearby home they believed might be involved in the operation.

Police had a search warrant for the purported stash house, at 3712 N. 15th St., but decided to secure the other home, 3716, after seeing what they believed might be drugs or weapons going into that home. They raided both houses almost simultaneously, sources said."

[link to www.inquirer.com (secure)]

Now the cops claim they saw a duffel bag being moved from the house in the warrant to Hill's, but at this point they will say anything to save their jobs.
 Quoting: Cheyenne


Look at that property as opposed to the boarded up ones on boths sides of it. There was no one even living in those.
Across the street where the "ring" doorbell to conveniently catch the action is likewise a much more updated property than the others around it. These properties stand out and as far as I can see they were off records as to who lived there at the time. Redfin says, "We have no records for this home". Regarding sales history when, for what amount.

I said earlier that this appeared to be a "safe house" or informant house or something like that because it was at least more habitable in appearace.
I don't think the shooting story was legit in any case but appeared to be a training drill considering the ridiculous turnout of cop cars in the city on Erie Ave. How much crime fighting can you do staging 100 police units two blocks from the action? Unless it's ALL for show.
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Are you people ignoring the fact that man was a piece of shit criminal with a long history, was an armed felon, and kept shooting at police long after the initial “safety sweep” attempt.

That scum has no business ever walking free again, and I sure as hell don’t think the taxpayers should be on the hook to cover his room and board for the next 30-40 years.

Execute him.
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That does not excuse the cops' unconstitutional commie-nazi tactics. There is more than enough blame to spread around.
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Exactly!

The cops kicked in the door illegally

This man had EVERY right to defend himself

And NONE of this would have happened if people finally realized Prohibition has NEVER and Will NEVER work





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