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JEFFREY EPSTEIN’S “DEATH” PRESUMES A “PSYOPS” THAT SAYS HE’S ALIVE

 
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Think about it. They've been pushing us to have a debate over suicide or murder. Yet it's obvious that Epstein, having friends who could control his island before the 'FBI raid' occurred, is alive and either laughing his ass off or cooperating with investigations. We will never see him again though.
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so obvious... how can others not see it?

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It's possible he's alive, I tend to think he's dead. Murdered, of course. The suicide thing is simply ludicrous and is just the govt/media complex's OWN CONSPIRACY THEORY to shut the rest of us up.

My reasoning is:

I never understood why they - LEGALLY - arrested Epstein in the first place as this was obviously going over the same or similar ground as charges in 2002-2005. NOTHING FROM THE PAST 10 YEARS after his jail sentence, which meant they didn't want to risk anything NEW coming out. NO NEW NAMES.

Some of these girls may be victims, or not, or they may be being manipulated, just like the accusers of Trump and Kavanaugh. Not to say Epstein didn't do vast amounts of evil shit, on his own behalf and for CIA/Mossad, etc, but that doesn't mean all these women are telling the truth, or the whole truth.

I think this comes down to the same rival factions in the govt war, both sides wanting to use Epstein. One side wanted to get him to expose NEW NAMES and expose the pedo rings, blackmail, FINANCIAL MISDOINGS, etc, and the other side wants to permanently cover this up and perhaps use Epstein against Trump.

Everything we've seen in Epstein's case indicated he was being set up for a kill. This would seem to indicate Black Hats were in charge of his jailing conditions. Especially putting him in a jail with an ex-cop accused of killing FOUR MEN. Count that....FOUR MEN. I guess they wanted to make it 5. Looks like he tried and failed. Send in the pros!

They moved against Epstein the day after NEW NAMES came out from new documents. That was the motivation, the trigger for the event.

What does the NY POST, THE media player in this series show us? A couple of gurney shots of a guy who IS NOT EPSTEIN, in a location that's not a hospital. Why would they show us a FAKE DEAD EPSTEIN if they had a REAL DEAD EPSTEIN? Because they didn't at that point. They needed him alive to tell them where everything was, contact names, materials, etc. Dead man's switch.

I'm assuming they beat it out of him, or tortured him somehow to get this info. Whether in or out of his cell. Probably out. UPDATE: On 2nd thought, maybe in. That would account for the "shrieking" certainly. Why would they tell us there was "shrieking" if they were going to claim it was suicide all along? That might be a bit of truth that got away from their control.

And indeed we see the FBI re-searching Epstein's island on MONDAY after the murder....for what? What did they not get or know about before Saturday? FBI is BLACK HAT. Old saying: CIA does the crime, FBI does the cover-up. Also, there was a lot of activity on the island on Saturday night of his death. Possibly even submarine activity. We know these things from the drone vids.

Once they had this info, there would be no NEED for Epstein any more. These people would not save him out of loyalty, they have none. Alive, he would always be a potential liability that someone might come across, or who might be able to double cross them. Far safer to simply kill him.

So they did. Probably with a garotte technique, or even a choke hold. Garotte might leave fabric bits or pattern behind. Could even use a sheet. Breaks the WINDPIPE (along with hyoid and other bones).

THE EFFECT OF EPSTEIN'S "DEATH" IS TO STOP THE TRIAL. THAT WAS THE OBVIOUS INTENT. THAT MEANS NO NEW INFO, NO NEW NAMES OTHER THAN WHAT'S ALREADY IN THAT 2000 PAGE DOCUMENT, IS COMING OUT. THOSE PEOPLE WHO TELL YOU THE TRIAL OR DISCLOSURE WILL CONTINUE ARE LYING TO US. A CRIMINAL CASE CANNOT GO FORWARD WITHOUT A....CRIMINAL. YOU NEED A DEFENDANT. IF THE DEFENDANT DIES, THE CASE ENDS.

The intent was to END the case and the release of materials and new names, details. If they start a case against co-conspirators, that would be a NEW CASE(S) and would take time and money to mount, and may not access the same documents. The same with civil cases against his Estate.

You will not see any new (significant) releases from that 2000 page document again. I think the White Hats, whoever they are, lost this one.

BTW, I believe Epstein thought he was going to beat this rap or get a reduced sentence, same as before, and I agree with that. I don't know of any actual evidence against him other than the women's testimony and that probably is not enough of a case on its own. There would have to be corroborating evidence and not just rumors and gossip and disapproval of Epstein. Look at Trump and Kavanaugh. Women lie and indeed Epstein's prime accuser has already been caught in lies. Not saying she's not a victim, but that things are more complex than they seem. That's why Epstein would NOT have committed suicide and always had that smirk on his face. He knew he could beat this rap.

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I tend to think they will not go after Ghislaine Maxwell because of her Mossad background. A generational heritage with her father. That probably gives her quite a bit of protection. I think she'll just be left to float around with no social contacts or activities - probably what amounts to solitary confinement for life - no matter where she goes. Few will want to meet with her or help her. She's poison.

I don't think our govt will charge her with anything because of Mossad/Israel and they got what they wanted out of Epstein anyway. I think Maxwell was his handler and the real power behind the throne.

They might just kill her to tie up lose ends or she may....disappear. I don't think Mossad would object. She's served her purpose. But I don't think you'll see any legal proceedings.

THEY WANT THIS TO END.
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It never started.
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Read the article. Very well put together. Critical thinkn applied.


[link to judicialcorruptionnews.com]
 Quoting: Phennommennonn

Nothing would surprise me on this case.
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Sonetimes disinfo is a Neccessity
political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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You might consider to raise the question:

WHO IS THE NEW EPSTEIN?

Because there are ALWAYS Epsteins, and there may be more than one. People who are set up so they can entrap the wealthy, the powerful, with their own weaknesses that can be exploited against them. THIS IS A ROLE, NOT A PERSON.

I might guess it's Jay-Z. He seems like an Epstein type to me, my personal opinion. Fabulously wealthy - why? Sexy witch wife with no talent at all - nor does Jay Z have any discernible talent. But TONS of dough. And everyone fawns over him. He throws the enormous parties, he's everywhere, these people bow to him (and her). What has he really done to earn this? I think he's been PUT into this position. They're replacing Js with Blacks, in case you hadn't noticed. I don't object to either group, btw, just noticing.

That's my guess. I thought originally it was just Satanism, and I think that's true, but more than that. They always need NEW EPSTEINS.

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[link to amp.miamiherald.com (secure)]


Ironically yesterday Guantánamo Bay shut down any press conferences at the facility which is not happened in a very long time.

read the article above

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVY BASE, Cuba

The Pentagon’s chief war crimes prosecutor, who for six years has been the most public booster of the military commissions, has decided to abandon a years long practice of briefing reporters and holding news conferences.

“This is a principled decision based on the law and the posture of these cases,” prosecutor Brig. Gen. Mark Martins said Sunday night. “And it’s the right time.”
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Wow.
Good read.
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Read the article. Very well put together. Critical thinkn applied.


[link to judicialcorruptionnews.com]
 Quoting: Phennommennonn

Nothing would surprise me on this case.
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


Sonetimes disinfo is a Neccessity
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Disinfo is a lie. There is no excuse for lying. Especially on the part of the government we pay and allegedly control. HO HO HO.

Lying always leads to more lying and it corrupts the person or organization that does it no matter what the original intent was. That is why Christ said "The truth shall set you free.". There is NO OTHER WAY. When you lie, you have to start the cover-up and that never ends.

ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH. And don't accept anything less from others. And certainly don't excuse it.

I might also add, that private "justice" is not justice. To be a system of laws, we need PUBLIC JUSTICE. PERIOD. It's the only way you can enforce the laws and create a sense of justice in the people. Those who say things must be done privately are really saying that men control the system, and not laws. That will always lead to a lawless society as men seek power to protect themselves and enslave others.
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After really looking at the pictures of "Epstein Dead" & Alive side by sides....I think I see the proof right there in black and white...

That extra ear dick that is being shown to prove it is not his ear...Is a piece off a WIG, look behind the ear where they keep drawing the purple lines right over the mistake. using the side by side pictures to see. look along the hairline and you can see I might be right.

I also noticed his eyebrows they are exactly darkened to make that shape but if you look close the brow is longer just not penciled in. The man does not have make up for grooming in Prison.

A fashionista or hair stylist maybe able to confirm or deny this. Sure looks like it to me.
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Read the article. Very well put together. Critical thinkn applied.


[link to judicialcorruptionnews.com]
 Quoting: Phennommennonn

Nothing would surprise me on this case.
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


Sonetimes disinfo is a Neccessity
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Disinfo is a lie. There is no excuse for lying. Especially on the part of the government we pay and allegedly control. HO HO HO.

Lying always leads to more lying and it corrupts the person or organization that does it no matter what the original intent was. That is why Christ said "The truth shall set you free.". There is NO OTHER WAY. When you lie, you have to start the cover-up and that never ends.

ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH. And don't accept anything less from others. And certainly don't excuse it.

I might also add, that private "justice" is not justice. To be a system of laws, we need PUBLIC JUSTICE. PERIOD. It's the only way you can enforce the laws and create a sense of justice in the people. Those who say things must be done privately are really saying that men control the system, and not laws. That will always lead to a lawless society as men seek power to protect themselves and enslave others.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


In a game of chess u gotta stay 9 moves ahead of your opponent

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political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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I don't believe anything anymore, and I stopped chasing bunnies down pointless rabbit holes a long time ago, when I realized that most of those rabbit holes are deliberately planted to take people off the trail of truth and confuse them with contradictory details. They also plant some really ridiculous rabbit holes so they can point to the tards and use the lunatic fringe conspiracy theory label to discredit anyone trying to get to the truth. Well meaning people jump down the rabbit holes they were meant to fall into. It's part of the plan to dictate reality. It's a distraction from the things that matter.

By all means, search for the answers, but it's more important than ever that you go in with a clear and cold head, turn off your emotions and suspend everything you think you know. If you clear away the bullshit and just look at things as they are, the truth is right in front of us.
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This ^
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Read the article. Very well put together. Critical thinkn applied.


[link to judicialcorruptionnews.com]
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Yep, I think he's still alive and singing.
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So Many:

Black Hats
White Hats
& Gray Hats


and MANY mixes of all of the above

Hard to say who wants him dead or alive

because criminals are GREEDY and play BOTH Sides

Great Times we are witnessing !
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Nothing would surprise me on this case.
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Sonetimes disinfo is a Neccessity
 Quoting: Phennommennonn



Disinfo is a lie. There is no excuse for lying. Especially on the part of the government we pay and allegedly control. HO HO HO.

Lying always leads to more lying and it corrupts the person or organization that does it no matter what the original intent was. That is why Christ said "The truth shall set you free.". There is NO OTHER WAY. When you lie, you have to start the cover-up and that never ends.

ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH. And don't accept anything less from others. And certainly don't excuse it.

I might also add, that private "justice" is not justice. To be a system of laws, we need PUBLIC JUSTICE. PERIOD. It's the only way you can enforce the laws and create a sense of justice in the people. Those who say things must be done privately are really saying that men control the system, and not laws. That will always lead to a lawless society as men seek power to protect themselves and enslave others.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


In a game of chess u gotta stay 9 moves ahead of your opponent
 Quoting: Phennommennonn




I think it's best not to play games, and to live an honest and honorable, straightforward life. The best way to deal with a game is to knock the entire board over. Don't get caught up in THEIR games. THEY always win. The game is designed that way.
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Deny/Disrupt/Degrade/Deceive

Certainly happening here en masse.
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I haven't read it yet, but will. I believe he is alive and in Witsec....giving up the goods on Bill Clinton et al....as only he knows where the bodies are buried.....
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I haven't read it yet, but will. I believe he is alive and in Witsec....giving up the goods on Bill Clinton et al....as only he knows where the bodies are buried.....
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Flynn n mueller
knows where the bodies are buried.

Told u guys the Mueller report wasnt about russia!! N it was compketed over a yr ago

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Mike Adams from NaturalNews wrote an article about how he HAS to be alive. Talks about how the people who have him are torturing him to get the locations of where all he hid copies of all the info he has on the powerful people.
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I haven't read it yet, but will. I believe he is alive and in Witsec....giving up the goods on Bill Clinton et al....as only he knows where the bodies are buried.....
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Flynn n mueller
knows where the bodies are buried.

Told u guys the Mueller report wasnt about russia!! N it was compketed over a yr ago

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this is true but WTF....what is happening with all of this. Mueller look like he had dementia when he testified. He looked horrible. A joke....what are your thoughts on Mueller? I love FLYNN
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I haven't read it yet, but will. I believe he is alive and in Witsec....giving up the goods on Bill Clinton et al....as only he knows where the bodies are buried.....
 Quoting: Bird Shadow

Flynn n mueller
knows where the bodies are buried.

Told u guys the Mueller report wasnt about russia!! N it was compketed over a yr ago

[link to threadreaderapp.com (secure)]
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this is true but WTF....what is happening with all of this. Mueller look like he had dementia when he testified. He looked horrible. A joke....what are your thoughts on Mueller? I love FLYNN
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I think all the "whats" etc were an act on his part. Along with the pretended dementia. He tried to look like he was incompetent to take the heat off himself...imo.
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yeahsure well duh. Y'all were a bit slow on the uptake but at least you're comming around.
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The photographer who got the pics of him on the gurney is suspect

William Farrington, just happens to know when Epstein was being transported to the hospital?

Epstein was worked on in the jail for a while then transported

How did this guy know where and when this happened?

Why did The Post get all the breaking news?
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Because they actually have real reporters on the streets of NYC.

Unlike the tribe fiction writers elsewhere.
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If Epstein was actually dead, the DOJ and FBI would be leaking their ass all over the Washington Post and NY Times and CNN would have been tipped off to get juicy staged optics. The MCC is only a couple blocks from Time Warner HQ.
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Mike Adams from NaturalNews wrote an article about how he HAS to be alive. Talks about how the people who have him are torturing him to get the locations of where all he hid copies of all the info he has on the powerful people.
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well then mike adams is a dope. yes.. epstein is alive but no one is torturing him. he has nothing to turn over to anyone... all of the blackmail info he gathered promptly went to where it was supposed to go.

acosta told us he was intelligence.... the victims (targets) are still being blackmailed, nothing has changed.

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yeahsure well duh. Y'all were a bit slow on the uptake but at least you're comming around.
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yeahsure hopefully y'all will realize the the swap draining can't begin until Barry Soetoro and all who aided and abetted his illegal presidency are taken down.
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If Epstein was actually dead, the DOJ and FBI would be leaking their ass all over the Washington Post and NY Times and CNN would have been tipped off to get juicy staged optics. The MCC is only a couple blocks from Time Warner HQ.
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when the post and the times are fueling the conspiracy controversy of suicide vs murder? you know it's neither.

as the idiot Q says.... you have more than you know.

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yeahsure well duh. Y'all were a bit slow on the uptake but at least you're comming around.
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yeahsure hopefully y'all will realize the the swap draining can't begin until Barry Soetoro and all who aided and abetted his illegal presidency are taken down.
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yeahsure including this tRUMP hole...






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