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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77935488 Mexico 08/20/2019 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many presidents in a row now has the he's coming for your guns narrative come and gone? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76171428 Probably the same number of presidents as the "going to make things better" narrative.. The last 8 or 9 of them.. Doesn't anybody see the cycle? IT"S ALL BULLSHIT.. There's no positive action being taken by government, ever. Their business is not to keep people free and ensure they have guns. It's quite the opposite. Society is regressing big time and NWO is already here, they just don't admit it to the public. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74827010 United States 08/20/2019 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would a man who's supposedly been a victim of illegal wiretaps and surveilance want to keep such a thing? It really makes one wonder just what the hell is really going on. If this is true, then we've all been played by the system again. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77757842 France 08/20/2019 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you argue, or disagree with then deleting the 4th (or any other Constitutional Amendment) they call you a 'conspiracy theorist' and a possible domestic terrorist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11376882 We got to figure this out but quick, or we're done. Or is it too late, you think? No one cares what label they give us. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77757842 France 08/20/2019 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These days, anytime there's a slogan, law or bill put into action that includes the words "Freedom, "America" or "Patriot", you can be sure it's either a ploy or a guise to actually erode our rights, one way or another. One of the most basic reverse psychology techniques known, yet it fools people endlessly. Quoting: Kenny Kennesaw Patriot act, Freedom Act, Make America Great Again. etc etc etc etc The extreme left obviously does it as well (ie: Antifa) Mirroring and hijacking definitions designed to confuse and create chaos. Are we awake yet? Apparently not...... Not only the words freedom patriot many other bills they pass that do the exact opposite of the bills wording. The group that falls for it the hardest are patriots . Funny? heh It is a propaganda technique called framing or reframing. Anyone with half a brain understands that words like "freedom" or "patriot" just are ways for the government to steal more of your rights. It's all deception, which they are good at. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77602448 United States 08/20/2019 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NOTICE: THE OP IS AN OUTRIGHT LIAR. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75637850 TRUMP DENIED COATES’ REQUEST TO CONTINUE ILLEGAL SPYING, IS IN THE PROCESS OF FIRING COATES, HAS SPOKEN OUT AGAINST ILLEGALLY SPYING ON US CITIZENS NUMEROUS TIMES, AND NEVER SAID THAT HE WANTS TO DO AWAY WITH THE 4TH AMENDMENT OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES. STOP LETTING ANTI-TRUMPERS DUPE YOU WITHOUT LOOKING INTO IT FOR YOURSELF. THEY’RE FLOODING THIS WEBSITE LATELY. Bump. Bump. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77620905 United States 08/20/2019 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NOTICE: THE OP IS AN OUTRIGHT LIAR. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75637850 TRUMP DENIED COATES’ REQUEST TO CONTINUE ILLEGAL SPYING, IS IN THE PROCESS OF FIRING COATES, HAS SPOKEN OUT AGAINST ILLEGALLY SPYING ON US CITIZENS NUMEROUS TIMES, AND NEVER SAID THAT HE WANTS TO DO AWAY WITH THE 4TH AMENDMENT OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES. STOP LETTING ANTI-TRUMPERS DUPE YOU WITHOUT LOOKING INTO IT FOR YOURSELF. THEY’RE FLOODING THIS WEBSITE LATELY. Bump. Bump. Hey OP, you coward liar. Anything to say? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77938622 United States 08/20/2019 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NOTICE: THE OP IS AN OUTRIGHT LIAR. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75637850 TRUMP DENIED COATES’ REQUEST TO CONTINUE ILLEGAL SPYING, IS IN THE PROCESS OF FIRING COATES, HAS SPOKEN OUT AGAINST ILLEGALLY SPYING ON US CITIZENS NUMEROUS TIMES, AND NEVER SAID THAT HE WANTS TO DO AWAY WITH THE 4TH AMENDMENT OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES. STOP LETTING ANTI-TRUMPERS DUPE YOU WITHOUT LOOKING INTO IT FOR YOURSELF. THEY’RE FLOODING THIS WEBSITE LATELY. Bump. Bump. Hey OP, you coward liar. Anything to say? What lies? |
Magnus74 User ID: 77070158 United States 08/20/2019 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What makes you think we have fourth amendment protections now? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77326027 Patriot act did away with that, every "smart" device you have did away with that. The Patriot Act merely made shit that had been going on in the dark, legal. Look up Project Echelon. "In 1988, Margaret Newsham, a Lockheed employee under NSA contract, disclosed the ECHELON surveillance system to members of congress. Newsham told a member of the U.S. Congress that the telephone calls of Strom Thurmond, a Republican U.S. senator, were being collected by the NSA. Congressional investigators determined that "targeting of U.S. political figures would not occur by accident, but was designed into the system from the start." From ( [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Yes but nobody is listening to every call, it is a computer algorithm that alerts for keywords within a parameter, like a lexisnexis search for audio. If the alert is triggered, that is when the eavesdropping occurs. Sometimes it is noting, and the person has a legitimate reason to discuss and use the term "dirty bomb" within 20 words of "Washington DC" The point is they need to listen in to determine which context it was being discussed, if it was harmless, they end the surveillance. If it is suspicious, then they go and get a warrant for continued surveillance. The debate is should you need to run to a judge at the moment it is triggered in order to listen in, or even the use of the program in the first place. It is a tool to keep America safe- Snowden like Ron Paul is not looking at the big picture. News Flash- nobody gives a shit what the everyday Joe says on the phone or types on the internet unless it is a threat. This is not a threat to the 4th amendment- it is a freakin tool to catch bad guys. I am for limited government as much as anyone, because most are not that bright, but ask yourself, Since the patriot act was enacted, have your rights been knowingly violated? No. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73869505 United States 08/25/2019 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What makes you think we have fourth amendment protections now? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77326027 Patriot act did away with that, every "smart" device you have did away with that. The Patriot Act merely made shit that had been going on in the dark, legal. Look up Project Echelon. "In 1988, Margaret Newsham, a Lockheed employee under NSA contract, disclosed the ECHELON surveillance system to members of congress. Newsham told a member of the U.S. Congress that the telephone calls of Strom Thurmond, a Republican U.S. senator, were being collected by the NSA. Congressional investigators determined that "targeting of U.S. political figures would not occur by accident, but was designed into the system from the start." From ( [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Yes but nobody is listening to every call, it is a computer algorithm that alerts for keywords within a parameter, like a lexisnexis search for audio. If the alert is triggered, that is when the eavesdropping occurs. Sometimes it is noting, and the person has a legitimate reason to discuss and use the term "dirty bomb" within 20 words of "Washington DC" The point is they need to listen in to determine which context it was being discussed, if it was harmless, they end the surveillance. If it is suspicious, then they go and get a warrant for continued surveillance. The debate is should you need to run to a judge at the moment it is triggered in order to listen in, or even the use of the program in the first place. It is a tool to keep America safe- Snowden like Ron Paul is not looking at the big picture. News Flash- nobody gives a shit what the everyday Joe says on the phone or types on the internet unless it is a threat. This is not a threat to the 4th amendment- it is a freakin tool to catch bad guys. I am for limited government as much as anyone, because most are not that bright, but ask yourself, Since the patriot act was enacted, have your rights been knowingly violated? No. Whoa, are you on the legal team? lol I think the question should go more like, 'ask yourself, how many times have your rights been unknowingly violated?' Every once in a while? Everyday? Perpetually? lol. How far back do records go? Can they say like, 'I'd like to rewind to March 4, 2004's phone records of citizen 432-67-5678.'? Yes, I'm directly asking you, Magnus 74, I get the feeling you may know. Or, ooo, this is good question, 'ask yourself, isn't it ironic, that we are spying on Americans, to prevent terror acts of foreigners, yet we have more Americans committing terror acts against Americans, that we aren't preventing, even with this amazing, amendment violating tech in place?'. |
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User ID: 76733903 United States 08/26/2019 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by Squonk on 08/26/2019 07:49 PM Nous sommes du soleil. -- We are of the sun. |
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User ID: 76733903 United States 08/26/2019 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bump to encourage watching the clip of Rand Paul filibuster Re: The "Un"-Patriot Act. Last Edited by Squonk on 08/26/2019 07:55 PM Nous sommes du soleil. -- We are of the sun. |