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Seth Rich Murder Update: FBI Claims They Didn’t Investigate but NSA Claims Can’t Disclose Files Due to Matter of National Security

Joe Hoft by Joe Hoft August 20, 2019

We first reported in late July that Texas businessman Ed Butowsky filed a lawsuit where he outed reporter Ellen Ratner as his source for information on Seth Rich. The DNC operative was murdered in the summer of 2016 in Washington DC. His murder was never solved. According to the lawsuit Seth Rich provided WikiLeaks the DNC emails before the 2016 election, not Russia.
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Ellen Ratner (Fox News) tells of her meeting with Julian Assange on Nov. 5 2016
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When Ty Clevenger requested documents from the FBI related to any investigation into the death of Seth Rich, they replied that they never investigated Seth Rich and they don’t even have any records on him –

[link to www.thegatewaypundit.com (secure)]

But when documents were requested from the NSA, they replied that they won’t release their records regarding Seth Rich because it’s a matter of national security –

[link to www.thegatewaypundit.com (secure)]

USC 552(b)(1) [link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)] states: This section does not apply to matters that are—

(A) specifically authorized under criteria established by an Executive order to be kept secret in the interest of national defense or foreign policy and (B) are in fact properly classified pursuant to such Executive order;

So the FBI never investigated the Seth Rich murder even though the NSA said the case was a matter of national security?

This too does not pass the smell test.

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Who ya think Seth would vote for now!

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in other words, maybe we will find out about this in about 50 years... sad, really sad state of affairs
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The FBI, CIA and NSA are the TRUE terrorist organizations and traitors to America. They don't give a shit about you or I, they only care about their power. And Trump supposedly controls this branch of government. I say supposedly because he isn't showing any kind of leadership role when it comes to these agencies. You have to wonder why? Why doesn't he just fire everyone and start over? Why does he only make 'suggestions' to the DOJ instead of directives? There is ONLY ONE ANSWER. He is NOT who he says he is and doesn't care about real justice for the American people. He is controlled opposition and I'm certain his family has been threatened.
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Ask yourself what do Jeffery Epstein and Seth Rich have in common?

1. They are both dead
2. They both had dirt on quite few very important people
3. The both had a lot of dirt on the Clintons
4. Their deaths occurred under conspiratorial circumstances.
5. Seth Rich was shot July 10 at 4:20 AM.
6. Jeffrey Epstein was found dead in his cell August 10 around 6:30 AM. The guard(s)had not checked on him for several hours having fallen asleep. Guards are not cooperating with investigation.
7. Video evidence related to both of these deaths is either unavailable or has never been disclosed.
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Wait.....all in due time.
political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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in other words, maybe we will find out about this in about 50 years... sad, really sad state of affairs
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Nope. It will be kept in secret until anyone that is interested in it is dead--then it will still be kept in secret. The same application of truth hiding as the UK Government regarding many WW 2 secrets.

When things are overtly kept top secret long after any apparent meaning, there is something very bad included with the secrets for the secret holders.
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It was outside their purview.
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The FBI, CIA and NSA are the TRUE terrorist organizations and traitors to America. They don't give a shit about you or I, they only care about their power. And Trump supposedly controls this branch of government. I say supposedly because he isn't showing any kind of leadership role when it comes to these agencies. You have to wonder why? Why doesn't he just fire everyone and start over? Why does he only make 'suggestions' to the DOJ instead of directives? There is ONLY ONE ANSWER. He is NOT who he says he is and doesn't care about real justice for the American people. He is controlled opposition and I'm certain his family has been threatened.
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If these organizations are as shady as we suspect, do you think they answer to any legal authority defined by publicly available laws, including the president? You say why doesn't he just "fire everyone," but how does he fire a black ops ghost agent with no identity, and only known to other black ops ghost agents? I'm talking complete rogue shadow government. If you don't know where the enemy is, how do you fight it?

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At least this is not completely buried. The very fact that we are reading this means others are, also. I even think this may be a hint of things being worked on.

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There's been a shift...however, I still haven't figured out what is actually happening.

All I know is that the left has become emboldened, while POTUS has taken to tweet, and retweet, quite a few interesting topics.

My feeling is that the Deep State and the Administration is actually in a full-blown War behind the scenes, with some of the many, seemingly unrelated 'things' we are reading about -even globally- are hints of the direct battles being waged.

As usual, we should be keeping our focus on the obscure.
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The FBI, CIA and NSA are the TRUE terrorist organizations and traitors to America. They don't give a shit about you or I, they only care about their power. And Trump supposedly controls this branch of government. I say supposedly because he isn't showing any kind of leadership role when it comes to these agencies. You have to wonder why? Why doesn't he just fire everyone and start over? Why does he only make 'suggestions' to the DOJ instead of directives? There is ONLY ONE ANSWER. He is NOT who he says he is and doesn't care about real justice for the American people. He is controlled opposition and I'm certain his family has been threatened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71433052


If these organizations are as shady as we suspect, do you think they answer to any legal authority defined by publicly available laws, including the president? You say why doesn't he just "fire everyone," but how does he fire a black ops ghost agent with no identity, and only known to other black ops ghost agents? I'm talking complete rogue shadow government. If you don't know where the enemy is, how do you fight it?
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I keep thinking that SINCE much of this is hidden to us anyway, maybe we should counter them by playing just as dirty, if not dirtier...which is possible.

Sometimes playing by the book proves to be the wrong move.
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The FBI, CIA and NSA are the TRUE terrorist organizations and traitors to America. They don't give a shit about you or I, they only care about their power. And Trump supposedly controls this branch of government. I say supposedly because he isn't showing any kind of leadership role when it comes to these agencies. You have to wonder why? Why doesn't he just fire everyone and start over? Why does he only make 'suggestions' to the DOJ instead of directives? There is ONLY ONE ANSWER. He is NOT who he says he is and doesn't care about real justice for the American people. He is controlled opposition and I'm certain his family has been threatened.
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If these organizations are as shady as we suspect, do you think they answer to any legal authority defined by publicly available laws, including the president? You say why doesn't he just "fire everyone," but how does he fire a black ops ghost agent with no identity, and only known to other black ops ghost agents? I'm talking complete rogue shadow government. If you don't know where the enemy is, how do you fight it?
 Quoting: Weyoun


I keep thinking that SINCE much of this is hidden to us anyway, maybe we should counter them by playing just as dirty, if not dirtier...which is possible.

Sometimes playing by the book proves to be the wrong move.
 Quoting: esoteric Morgan


Well, they kill and rape kids. We can't stoop to that level.

"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?"- Matthew 16:26a
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How does National Security relate to a middle of the night robbery
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At least this is not completely buried. The very fact that we are reading this means others are, also. I even think this may be a hint of things being worked on.

_____

There's been a shift...however, I still haven't figured out what is actually happening.

All I know is that the left has become emboldened, while POTUS has taken to tweet, and retweet, quite a few interesting topics.

My feeling is that the Deep State and the Administration is actually in a full-blown War behind the scenes, with some of the many, seemingly unrelated 'things' we are reading about -even globally- are hints of the direct battles being waged.

As usual, we should be keeping our focus on the obscure.
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A lot of the false flag mass murders like Sandy Hook, Vegas, El Paso, are "collateral damage" from the behind-the-scenes war.
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Seth Rich Murder Update: FBI Claims They Didn’t Investigate but NSA Claims Can’t Disclose Files Due to Matter of National Security

Joe Hoft by Joe Hoft August 20, 2019

We first reported in late July that Texas businessman Ed Butowsky filed a lawsuit where he outed reporter Ellen Ratner as his source for information on Seth Rich. The DNC operative was murdered in the summer of 2016 in Washington DC. His murder was never solved. According to the lawsuit Seth Rich provided WikiLeaks the DNC emails before the 2016 election, not Russia.
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Ellen Ratner (Fox News) tells of her meeting with Julian Assange on Nov. 5 2016
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...
...
Now This…
When Ty Clevenger requested documents from the FBI related to any investigation into the death of Seth Rich, they replied that they never investigated Seth Rich and they don’t even have any records on him –

[link to www.thegatewaypundit.com (secure)]

But when documents were requested from the NSA, they replied that they won’t release their records regarding Seth Rich because it’s a matter of national security –

[link to www.thegatewaypundit.com (secure)]

USC 552(b)(1) [link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)] states: This section does not apply to matters that are—

(A) specifically authorized under criteria established by an Executive order to be kept secret in the interest of national defense or foreign policy and (B) are in fact properly classified pursuant to such Executive order;

So the FBI never investigated the Seth Rich murder even though the NSA said the case was a matter of national security?

This too does not pass the smell test.

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Not to worry!

I'm sure those Good Guys, who are the Vast Majority of the FIB, will come forth any time now and tell the whole truth!

I'm just sure of it!
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Seth Rich Murder Update: FBI Claims They Didn’t Investigate but NSA Claims Can’t Disclose Files Due to Matter of National Security

Joe Hoft by Joe Hoft August 20, 2019

We first reported in late July that Texas businessman Ed Butowsky filed a lawsuit where he outed reporter Ellen Ratner as his source for information on Seth Rich. The DNC operative was murdered in the summer of 2016 in Washington DC. His murder was never solved. According to the lawsuit Seth Rich provided WikiLeaks the DNC emails before the 2016 election, not Russia.
...
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Ellen Ratner (Fox News) tells of her meeting with Julian Assange on Nov. 5 2016
...
...
...
Now This…
When Ty Clevenger requested documents from the FBI related to any investigation into the death of Seth Rich, they replied that they never investigated Seth Rich and they don’t even have any records on him –

[link to www.thegatewaypundit.com (secure)]

But when documents were requested from the NSA, they replied that they won’t release their records regarding Seth Rich because it’s a matter of national security –

[link to www.thegatewaypundit.com (secure)]

USC 552(b)(1) [link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)] states: This section does not apply to matters that are—

(A) specifically authorized under criteria established by an Executive order to be kept secret in the interest of national defense or foreign policy and (B) are in fact properly classified pursuant to such Executive order;

So the FBI never investigated the Seth Rich murder even though the NSA said the case was a matter of national security?

This too does not pass the smell test.

popcornkju
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Not to worry!

I'm sure those Good Guys, who are the Vast Majority of the FIB, will come forth any time now and tell the whole truth!

I'm just sure of it!
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Remember to "Hold Your Breath" while waiting!!!
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So, in other words, what most of us know what actually happened, did actually happen.

You're damn fucking right if an investigation exposed what really happened, and how this kicked off the Russia investigation that divided the country and could arguably lead us to a fucking civil war. Yeah that's perhaps a great reason to hide what happened because of Nat sec.

They stated the motive was robbery. Why would investigating a little more about this "robbery" cause national security problems?

Lmao what a fuckin joke

Is it time to stop taking it for granted and use the 2nd while we still fucking have it?

"From time to time the tree of liberty needs to be refreshed with the blood of tyrants"

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How does National Security relate to a middle of the night robbery
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Because that's clearly not what really happened. Read my above post, I lay it out pretty simply.
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is the answer to his murder to be found in your headline?

obviously it was not the average joe murdering Seth Rich,
guess the answer is hidden by those who had a important
reason for his death.
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WEAPONIZED AUTISTS knew this the next day when someone got the patient visitor logs showing Debbie Wasserman and Donna Brazille had shown up and then conveniently he was dead

That’s how anons found out there was no case number for the supposed investigation into pizzagate and the pizza parlor

You think the DNC would’ve unleashed the hounds leaving no stone unturned since one of their own was murdered

You think President Trump would’ve made this a priority for his SECRET SERVICE but he is pretending he don’t even know who Assange is

Wake the fuck up people
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How does National Security relate to a middle of the night robbery
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An admission that this is a National Security problem proves it is the corner stone .
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Arkancide becoming the number one cause of death for Democratic insiders.
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Wait.....all in due time.
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I think we are all tired of waiting


and while we do , the faith in the alphabet agencies continues to plummet


civic justice will not be much more patient

and civic justice is messy !



but I guess if the fbi are pretending it wasnae their fault on account of their legion incompetence


their other excuses are even more paper thin


an American citizen , killed on American soil, doing his patriotic duty

with evidence everywhere



and they didn't investigate - fucks sake !
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NSA would same the same thing if you asked them anything.
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How does National Security relate to a middle of the night robbery
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An admission that this is a National Security problem proves it is the corner stone .
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Exactly

Seth Rich, not Russia “hacked” the DNC but notice no mention of the Awan brothers

Like we can’t see the narrative still being steered in a particular direction to deflect and distract

How long before AGENTS start revolting or resigning?

Just kidding

Fucking cowards
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Highly doubt anything will come from this.
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Wait.....all in due time.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


I think we are all tired of waiting


and while we do , the faith in the alphabet agencies continues to plummet


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Faith in human institutions and ways is the mistake to begin with. Trust God.
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Who ya think Seth would vote for now!

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I feel bad for him because although he leaned left, he was (1) still fairly young and (2) wasn't necessarily similar to the inhumane liberals that dominate the DNC.

His dressing up in patriotic colors on July 4th indicated there was at least some rationality, common sense and compassion to his liberalism.


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The FBI, CIA and NSA are the TRUE terrorist organizations and traitors to America. They don't give a shit about you or I, they only care about their power. And Trump supposedly controls this branch of government. I say supposedly because he isn't showing any kind of leadership role when it comes to these agencies. You have to wonder why? Why doesn't he just fire everyone and start over? Why does he only make 'suggestions' to the DOJ instead of directives? There is ONLY ONE ANSWER. He is NOT who he says he is and doesn't care about real justice for the American people. He is controlled opposition and I'm certain his family has been threatened.
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If these organizations are as shady as we suspect, do you think they answer to any legal authority defined by publicly available laws, including the president? You say why doesn't he just "fire everyone," but how does he fire a black ops ghost agent with no identity, and only known to other black ops ghost agents? I'm talking complete rogue shadow government. If you don't know where the enemy is, how do you fight it?
 Quoting: Weyoun


I keep thinking that SINCE much of this is hidden to us anyway, maybe we should counter them by playing just as dirty, if not dirtier...which is possible.

Sometimes playing by the book proves to be the wrong move.
 Quoting: esoteric Morgan


Well, they kill and rape kids. We can't stoop to that level.

"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?"- Matthew 16:26a
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Well I certainly wouldn't recommend mimicking their sins however, there's something to be said about "bait & switch" tactics...





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