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eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
I am starting this thread as a forum to discuss the implications of policies on sex offender management. Perhaps this is not the place to do it, but where else can one go to exchange information with intelligent individuals who are hopefully willing to take up the task? A place where people will hopefully not be ignorantly dismissive?

Currently I am charged with evaluating a number of sex offender topics (I will answer five questions in total – lol – I’ll answer them all or find out why I cannot). This task is extremely frustrating because I know both empirically and anecdotally that society, however you define that, is asking for initiatives that put them at a much higher risk of victimization by these offenders.

Myths abound, facts are scarce. For example, sex offenders commit sex offenses at a lower rate than non-sex offenders commit sex offenses (truth=lower recidivism rates). Most offenders are first time, so registries do little; GPS is a waste of money; and residency restrictions by all means put the public at higher risk (child molesters offend in their home and GPS will just confirm where they are when they offend; rapists travel more than 1000 feet; not to mention absconding and lack of access to employment and treatment, let alone SUPERVISION).

Can we open a RATIONAL dialogue here? No noise. Ask your questions and I will back them up with research. I have no place else to advocate against these laws that put children at risk. I am not, in any manner, advocating for sex offending. It is about effective public management because most of them remain among us post-conviction.
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
ALL sex offenders should be executed. They will re-offend & sometimes these re-offenders have inside protection to keep them out of jail.
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
ALL sex offenders should be executed. They will re-offend & sometimes these re-offenders have inside protection to keep them out of jail.
 Quoting: mopar28m

I agree with this.

Personally, in my very humble opinion.. executions should take place for these crimes/atrocities, in no priority:

1. Rape
2. Murder
2. Molestation
3. Other sex crimes
4. Committing crimes while being a publicly and/or privately elected official who has control in any way over a large group of people.
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
At least penis cut off.
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
At least penis cut off.
 Quoting: Judge Judy 266441

Didn't think of that initially. Yeah, thats a great idea. Mutilation/removal of genitalia.. chuckle

What an idiotic Justice system.
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
ALL sex offenders should be executed. They will re-offend & sometimes these re-offenders have inside protection to keep them out of jail.

I agree with this.

Personally, in my very humble opinion.. executions should take place for these crimes/atrocities, in no priority:

1. Rape
2. Murder
2. Molestation
3. Other sex crimes
4. Committing crimes while being a publicly and/or privately elected official who has control in any way over a large group of people.
 Quoting: Sudel_Tek



Absolutely rational. But then you have child victims who would be traumatized by testifying and problems with evidence. So the plea is on with child offenses. Then with adult victims, there are often substances and personal questions of "integrity" involved.

That is why you get the cases where they stay in the community.

Then the Judges, the Judges. Older gentelemen who think its ok.

60% remain in the community. How shall we deal with them?
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
Many offenders do so without their penis (how about females?)

It involves viewing, touching, forcing the victim to act. That can all happen without a penis.
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07/14/2007 09:37 PM
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
The US Supreme Court has said that executing sex offenders is not an option. Louisiana was the last state, and it was only for child rape.

Not going to happen in the states that are stupid enough to enact a new law (or it will take 20 years and $20 mil for the firs one - death is not an option); even though in states with established death penalty statutes it would be highly cost-effective, they are still getting short prison sentences.

But MOST ARE GETTING PROBATION

If you do not know the difference, probation is pre-incarceration; parole is post, and ususally involves the duration of a (felony) prison sentence.

I digress, since so many people do not know the difference.
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
stop letting your children dress in skimpy clothing and keep
an eye on them all the time, no matter how weird it may seem to them...always talk with them about everything and anything...never think it couldn't happen to your child...always be alert who is around and looking...
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07/14/2007 09:43 PM
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
Like this:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32062


So you'll go to prison for 1st degree murder?
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
cut penis,hands and tongue off.
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
cut penis,hands and tongue off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 262194


Not exactly Constitutional, but that apparently no longer matters. How about the ACLU (are they even awake at the switch)?

Do you really want them comingling with vulnerable populations once the've been decapacitated?

Which brings us to civil commitment? Takers?
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
Why does the public clammor for laws that put them in jeopardy? Please, explain this to me.
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
cut penis,hands and tongue off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 262194


a very sinister post ... one that highlights the majority opinion and the average intellect - not all sex offenders are masculine gender ... in most cases of familial sex offence cases BOTH parties are not only in knowledge of whats going on - one chooses to to turn a blind eye ...!

Their is very often in all crime TWO criminals ...Crime emmulates the unniversal ultimately seeking to be perfect but on the other side of the coin type of thing ... the unniverse is dualistic .... you people are most ceratinly NOT dualistic in fact 99 % of all those people alive today on the planet today ARE NOT DUALISTIC .... EMMULATION is not perfection and thus neither can it be dualistic .

No dualism means NO LIFE ... work it out for yourselves do ..!

good luck .
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
ALL sex offenders should be executed. They will re-offend & sometimes these re-offenders have inside protection to keep them out of jail.
 Quoting: mopar28m

The government would never go along with this, too many of them would be in danger of execution.
Pedophilia is rampant among the "elite" and the government. and your children are thier objects.

They own them, by law.
They use excuses like drug use to take children from thier real parents so they can place them in homes where they KNOW they will be abused sexually.

It's worst than you think.
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
in regards to sex offenders living amongst us ... lol

check this out ... www.pichunter.com the demons are everywhere be sure of that ... and they are the MAJORITY ..!

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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
Sex offenders cannot be cured! Period!!


Cut off what you will, but they will find a phallus to carry out their sick fantasies!!

Death = No repeat offences!!


Debunk that you fuckers!!
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
Like this:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


So you'll go to prison for 1st degree murder?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 266494


Shoot, shovel, shut up.
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
It's just so sad that there are so many perverted, sick people out there. Selfish bastards! Put them all on an island together, I guess. There doesn't seem to be any permanent cure for their sorry asses.
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
Like this:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


So you'll go to prison for 1st degree murder?
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Shoot, shovel, shut up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32062


You can be sure that if anyone molested any member of my family, they wouldn't live long enough to go to trial. Even if I had to pay with a few years in prison, wouldn't matter. But I 'dig' your advice!
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07/14/2007 11:04 PM
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
Unless they get caught you will never know who they are. Most go undetected anyway!

The only option I can come up with is for parents to never, ever let their children out of their view of range especially with family members before the age of twelve. This is the best protection a parent can give their child!!

That should be the "golden rule" for all parents.

I believe it was in the book "Toxic Parents" where there was a case discussed where the mother held the child's head, while the father had sex with the minor daughter.

While on this discussion, go to youtube and watch the video "Lullaby" by The Cure. Just posted about this thirty minutes ago on glp titled "Any Cure fans here"...
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
I've got a guy living right next door to me who moved in two years ago and adopted 3 children who were taken from thier parents for abusing drugs.

By all accounts the children were healthy and happy in thier parents home. There were no signs of abuse or neglect, that is.

The man I'm speaking of is a KNOWN PEDOPHILE , that is the whole town knows he is sexually abusing the children. (they do now)

The CPS apparently listened to the complaints when they were directed against the real parents, but are reluctant to even LISTEN to what anyone has to say when they complain about thier "placements". I have personally seen this man fondle the oldest child repeatedly outdoors, and when I reported it the complaints were ignored. The children are no longer seen outside, they are kept indoors to prevent us from documenting the abuse, which includes beating animals in front of them, fondling , yanking them up by theier arms , slapping them and throwing them on the ground, not to mention endngering thier lives with idiotic "activities" such as throwing a machette up into a tree with them running around.

They know what he's doing because they set it up, thats what I'm telling you. The pedos that are prosecuted are simply to make it LOOK like they are doing something.

The "hidden hand" can steal your children and have sex with them at the behest of the government agencies they set up for this purpoise, and there is little you can do. They are immune from the laws that regulate you. Thier religious beliefs DO NOT preclude the sexual abuse of YOUR children, only thier own.

They own your children, they have CATALOGS they look through from school photos where they pick and choose which ones they want, and the courts give them to them one way or another.
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
stop letting your children dress in skimpy clothing and keep
an eye on them all the time, no matter how weird it may seem to them...always talk with them about everything and anything...never think it couldn't happen to your child...always be alert who is around and looking...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 258746



Mostly I agree with the spirit of your post, but when you said: "stop letting your children dress in skimpy clothing," that implies that it is somehow the child's fault for looking so darn 'cute' or 'attractive', but that is not the reality. The chomos are 100% at fault, not the children.

That's like saying a woman shouldn't go to the store in shorts, she's asking to be raped. Not true.

The reason those pervs can't get cured at all is because they see other humans as *objects*, and *that* is a form of mental/emotional illness that cannot be fixed. They are totally into control and narcissistic self-gratification. IMO they should be put out of their misery like the sick dogs they are.

And by the way, talking with your children, asking them if anything is going on, DOESN'T WORK in most cases. Either they have been threatened if they reveal anything, OR their shame is so deep they can't admit anything. Unlike the perpetrator, the child KNOWS on a deep level this is wrong, but they are conditioned to obey adults.

It is confusing to them, so they clam up and get really quiet. Some of them develop an alternate 'perky' personality to hide their inner pain. So don't think just because you talk to your child that they will tell you about being molested.
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
With a .308 from the water tower.


That's how you deal with them...
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
With a .308 from the water tower.


That's how you deal with them...
 Quoting: Apocalypse Troll

Yeah, believe me the thought has crossed my mind, but you know if you kill one of the animals theyre going to treat it just like you killed a real human being if they catch you.

The best defense is knowing who they are and making sure everyone else does.
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
Elect them to some heavily responsible public office, so that they'll be too busy doing good to fool around?

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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
always a hot topic on the I-net. the punishment should fit the crime. dangerous people should be put away.
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
invite them all to pajama party......
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Re: eek. sex offenders live among us. how shall we deal?
all that are in prison are not child molestors. Some are mistaken identy. A lot of cops just want to assume , and a few guys mistake thinking these are just women pretending with them. it's not a good thing , but if their isn't a victim, how can there be a crime.





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