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TRIGGERED! Federal court undercuts progressive efforts to nullify Electoral College, rules electors can vote freely

 
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Daily Briefing' host Dana Perino says it is a disservice to say that the Electoral College should be abolished without recognizing that it serves a purpose.

In a major blow to state-by-state progressive efforts to effectively replace the Electoral College with a nationwide popular vote, a federal appeals court ruled on Tuesday that presidential electors in the Electoral College have the absolute right to vote for presidential candidates of their choice.

Democrats have increasingly sought to erase the Electoral College's influence by promoting state laws that would force electors to vote for the national popular vote winner -- and those laws were now in jeopardy as a result of the court's ruling, legal experts said.

The decision, however, also raised the prospect that electors could legally defect at the last minute, and decide the occupant of the White House on their own in dramatic fashion, weeks after Election Day.

The 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals held that the Colorado secretary of state violated the Constitution in 2016 when he removed an elector and nullified his vote because the elector refused to cast his ballot for Democrat Hillary Clinton, who won the popular vote both nationally and in Colorado. The rogue elector was part of an unsuccessful scheme to convince enough members of the Electoral College to unite behind an alternative candidate and deny Donald Trump the presidency.
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If it was shown that Trump won by a vast popular vote but Hillary won by just one vote from the electoral college then libs would be saying how great it is.
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The problem with allowing the popular vote to decide is that illegals are able to vote for president. They should have no say in who runs the country.
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the problem with the popular vote is it is not the real vote
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The problem with allowing the popular vote to decide is that illegals are able to vote for president. They should have no say in who runs the country.
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Homeowners and employed taxpayers should only,vote.
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What's the point of having an election if electors can vote any way they want?
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What's the point of having an election if electors can vote any way they want?
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The presidency is not supposed to be part of the popular election at all. Read the Constitution.
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What's the point of having an election if electors can vote any way they want?
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The presidency is not supposed to be part of the popular election at all. Read the Constitution.
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I agree with you. I'm saying if the state votes a certain way why should one person decide and hold hostage on which way they are going to vote? Should be nothing more than a formality. For instance a representative from the state should go up and say the "the delegation of California votes for Clinton" or "the delegation from Pennsylvania votes for Trump". It's ridiculous that an elector can choose not to vote for who the state voted for. Just imagine the shitshow that would ensue if an elector decided not to vote in a 270-268 election
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If true, than about 0.0000015 % of the population
will determine the president ???
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What's the point of having an election if electors can vote any way they want?
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The presidency is not supposed to be part of the popular election at all. Read the Constitution.
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I agree with you. I'm saying if the state votes a certain way why should one person decide and hold hostage on which way they are going to vote? Should be nothing more than a formality. For instance a representative from the state should go up and say the "the delegation of California votes for Clinton" or "the delegation from Pennsylvania votes for Trump". It's ridiculous that an elector can choose not to vote for who the state voted for. Just imagine the shitshow that would ensue if an elector decided not to vote in a 270-268 election
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77913714


The Constitution does not allow a state to force their electors to vote a certain way. This way, mob tyranny in a state such as California cannot hold the state's electors hostage, and consequently the entire country hostage.

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If true, than about 0.0000015 % of the population
will determine the president ???
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As was intended by our founding fathers. They knew correctly that 99.9% of people are too dumb to decide the president.
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The problem with allowing the popular vote to decide is that illegals are able to vote for president. They should have no say in who runs the country.
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If it was shown that Trump won by a vast popular vote but Hillary won by just one vote from the electoral college then libs would be saying how great it is.
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What some people don't realize is that Congress is chosen by the population of the state, just as votes in the Electoral College is determined. In other words...A Cortez is a representative of the House, and she is against the Electoral College. Apparently she has no idea how she got a seat in the House. lol

How many House representatives are in each state?

Each state receives representation in the House in proportion to the size of its population but is entitled to at least one representative. There are currently 435 representatives, a number fixed by law since 1911. The most populous state, California, currently has 53 representatives.

election1

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electors in the Electoral College have the absolute right to vote for presidential candidates of their choice.

This means several hundred people control who becomes president.
In a lot of states the elector is legally required to vote for whoever won the state.
This ruling also throws that out the window.
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Re: TRIGGERED! Federal court undercuts progressive efforts to nullify Electoral College, rules electors can vote freely
Daily Briefing' host Dana Perino says it is a disservice to say that the Electoral College should be abolished without recognizing that it serves a purpose.

In a major blow to state-by-state progressive efforts to effectively replace the Electoral College with a nationwide popular vote, a federal appeals court ruled on Tuesday that presidential electors in the Electoral College have the absolute right to vote for presidential candidates of their choice.

Democrats have increasingly sought to erase the Electoral College's influence by promoting state laws that would force electors to vote for the national popular vote winner -- and those laws were now in jeopardy as a result of the court's ruling, legal experts said.

The decision, however, also raised the prospect that electors could legally defect at the last minute, and decide the occupant of the White House on their own in dramatic fashion, weeks after Election Day.

The 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals held that the Colorado secretary of state violated the Constitution in 2016 when he removed an elector and nullified his vote because the elector refused to cast his ballot for Democrat Hillary Clinton, who won the popular vote both nationally and in Colorado. The rogue elector was part of an unsuccessful scheme to convince enough members of the Electoral College to unite behind an alternative candidate and deny Donald Trump the presidency.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73370035


One more brilliant check and balance installed by the Founding Fathers. Electors have always been free to cast their vote for anyone they want. Most people don't understand that they are voting for POTUS they are actually casting their vote for a state elector who pledges to vote for their stated candidate.
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In a major blow to state-by-state progressive efforts
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I dislike the use of the word "progressive" for cunning, dishonest, unethical, non-compassionate liberals/leftists.

"Progressive" sounds somehow warmly idealistic and George-Jetson futuristic. People who are one step (if even that) below Joseph Stalin and Mao Tse-tung are anything but warmly idealistic and flying-car futuristic.


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What's the point of having an election if electors can vote any way they want?
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Exactly....

The decision, however, also raised the prospect that electors could legally defect at the last minute, and decide the occupant of the White House on their own in dramatic fashion, weeks after Election Day.

These electors could be paid off to vote a particular way. A Quid Pro Quo scenario...

Electors should vote for whom their constituents want them to vote for...

There should be an amendment to this ruling...
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What's the point of having an election if electors can vote any way they want?
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The presidency is not supposed to be part of the popular election at all. Read the Constitution.
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Do these morons not understand how easily this could backfire on them in the next election, when their nominee Amanda HugNkiss (D) gets defeated by Eric Evil (R) in the popular vote, all because they lost their minds with butthurt and overreacted this way when Hillary didn't just waltz into the White House? We have more elections in this country than you can shake a sick at; want to see your party in power? Run electable candidates and win some elections.
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If it was shown that Trump won by a vast popular vote but Hillary won by just one vote from the electoral college then libs would be saying how great it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43528338


What some people don't realize is that Congress is chosen by the population of the state, just as votes in the Electoral College is determined. In other words...A Cortez is a representative of the House, and she is against the Electoral College. Apparently she has no idea how she got a seat in the House. lol

How many House representatives are in each state?

Each state receives representation in the House in proportion to the size of its population but is entitled to at least one representative. There are currently 435 representatives, a number fixed by law since 1911. The most populous state, California, currently has 53 representatives.

:election1:
 Quoting: nutmeg


Trump lost by 3 million votes. I love when trumptards post that stupid map of how many counties he won as if a county the size of Massachusetts with a population of 60 means anything.

Also the electoral college is antiquated and completely fails its purpose. Abolish it.
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Daily Briefing' host Dana Perino says it is a disservice to say that the Electoral College should be abolished without recognizing that it serves a purpose.

In a major blow to state-by-state progressive efforts to effectively replace the Electoral College with a nationwide popular vote, a federal appeals court ruled on Tuesday that presidential electors in the Electoral College have the absolute right to vote for presidential candidates of their choice.

Democrats have increasingly sought to erase the Electoral College's influence by promoting state laws that would force electors to vote for the national popular vote winner -- and those laws were now in jeopardy as a result of the court's ruling, legal experts said.

The decision, however, also raised the prospect that electors could legally defect at the last minute, and decide the occupant of the White House on their own in dramatic fashion, weeks after Election Day.

The 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals held that the Colorado secretary of state violated the Constitution in 2016 when he removed an elector and nullified his vote because the elector refused to cast his ballot for Democrat Hillary Clinton, who won the popular vote both nationally and in Colorado. The rogue elector was part of an unsuccessful scheme to convince enough members of the Electoral College to unite behind an alternative candidate and deny Donald Trump the presidency.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73370035


One more brilliant check and balance installed by the Founding Fathers. Electors have always been free to cast their vote for anyone they want. Most people don't understand that they are voting for POTUS they are actually casting their vote for a state elector who pledges to vote for their stated candidate.
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Now that elector's pledge is thrown out the window, since they can legally defect at the last minute and cast their vote for another candidate...
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If it was shown that Trump won by a vast popular vote but Hillary won by just one vote from the electoral college then libs would be saying how great it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43528338


What some people don't realize is that Congress is chosen by the population of the state, just as votes in the Electoral College is determined. In other words...A Cortez is a representative of the House, and she is against the Electoral College. Apparently she has no idea how she got a seat in the House. lol

How many House representatives are in each state?

Each state receives representation in the House in proportion to the size of its population but is entitled to at least one representative. There are currently 435 representatives, a number fixed by law since 1911. The most populous state, California, currently has 53 representatives.

election1
 Quoting: nutmeg


Trump lost by 3 million votes. I love when trumptards post that stupid map of how many counties he won as if a county the size of Massachusetts with a population of 60 means anything.

Also the electoral college is antiquated and completely fails its purpose. Abolish it.
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They should also abolish all the democratic dead people that voted and all the illegals that voted. Also, all those falsified absentee ballots that were found at the last minute...

I bet they total over 3 million votes for Hillary...
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And the 17th amendment should be repealed.

(this is the amendment that electors Senators by vote instead of appointment by the state legislative body)

Chuck Schumer should never have been elected to the Senate.

The New York Legislature could have appointed someone to directly voice the will of the legislative body of the State in the Senate, not the stupid idiots in the House of Pancakes.





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