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OH SHIIITTT, BYE BYE 4TH AMMEND. Trump Admin Is Considering Using Amazon Echo And Apple Watch To Determine If Citizens Should Own A Gun

 
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The Trump administration is considering a proposal that would use Google, Amazon and Apple to collect data on users who exhibit characteristics of mental illness that could lead to violent behavior, The Washington Post reported Thursday.

The proposal is part of an initiative to create a Health Advanced Research Projects Agency (HARPA), which would be located inside the Health and Human Services Department, the report notes, citing sources inside the administration. The new agency would have a separate budget and the president would be responsible for appointing its director.

HARPA would take after Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, or DARPA, which serves as the research arm for the Pentagon. The idea was first crafted in 2017 but has since gotten a renewed push after mass shootings killed 31 people in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, in August.

The Suzanne Wright Foundation approached the president recently and proposed the agency include a project called Stopping Aberrant Fatal Events by Helping Overcome Mental Extremes, or Safe Home, the report notes, citing two people familiar with the matter.

President Donald Trump has a close relationship with Bob Wright, who founded the foundation after his wife died of cancer. Wright was a former chair of NBC and occupied that position while the president hosted “The Apprentice.”


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I thought we were going to break google up for monopoly.


THIS IS TRULY SCARY SHIT!!!
Coastie Patriot
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THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

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They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

to grow up remembering th

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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Minority report!
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The irony of course is that Trump is batshit insane. And the 4th amendment has been dead for a long time.
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Pin it!!
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Any dumber mother fucker that knowingly puts a spying device like this in their home is an idiot. It takes a few seconds to type giving a rational, sane person a moment to consider what they are typing.

That said, things said in a moment of anger or a state of the absurd, are often thoughts that are just meant to relieve tension.

Example, I was rolling with a young dickbag doing jiu-jitsu, we had a heated verbal exchange because we were both being assholes, he said, "I will kill you." Of course, I hope, he didn't mean it literally. And I likely think he didn't.

With this in mind, having a 24 hour recording device in your home is just plain dumb. Of course, I say this with my Samsung 7 sitting on my desk.
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Apple watch? who's going to buy it?
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Any dumber mother fucker that knowingly puts a spying device like this in their home is an idiot. It takes a few seconds to type giving a rational, sane person a moment to consider what they are typing.

That said, things said in a moment of anger or a state of the absurd, are often thoughts that are just meant to relieve tension.

Example, I was rolling with a young dickbag doing jiu-jitsu, we had a heated verbal exchange because we were both being assholes, he said, "I will kill you." Of course, I hope, he didn't mean it literally. And I likely think he didn't.

With this in mind, having a 24 hour recording device in your home is just plain dumb. Of course, I say this with my Samsung 7 sitting on my desk.
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It’s always the individual’s fault and never the system’s, right?
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Harpa darpa unsafe home
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Alexa... Are you going to Red Flag me ?

"I'm sorry . I am not sure. But you are now on the AppleWatch ®"
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Series 4 AppleWatch...looks like 24 payments of $21. I'll pass.
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he is shifting the blame from THE GUN to THE PERSON, not bad. Problem is, who determines the criteria for mental health ??? What if visiting GLP gets you on their radar.
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We are a REPUBLIC.If we can keep it MORAN!
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Yeah it’s called the TAPS ACT which in conjunction with RED FLAG LEGISLATION will allow any citizen to be disarmed for whatever reason they want to conjure up where a father was just disarmed because of a MEME his son posted

It’s already happening
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Any dumber mother fucker that knowingly puts a spying device like this in their home is an idiot. It takes a few seconds to type giving a rational, sane person a moment to consider what they are typing.

That said, things said in a moment of anger or a state of the absurd, are often thoughts that are just meant to relieve tension.

Example, I was rolling with a young dickbag doing jiu-jitsu, we had a heated verbal exchange because we were both being assholes, he said, "I will kill you." Of course, I hope, he didn't mean it literally. And I likely think he didn't.

With this in mind, having a 24 hour recording device in your home is just plain dumb. Of course, I say this with my Samsung 7 sitting on my desk.
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It’s always the individual’s fault and never the system’s, right?
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Also everything is listening all the time. I imagine this would include google search results as well.
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he is shifting the blame from THE GUN to THE PERSON, not bad. Problem is, who determines the criteria for mental health ??? What if visiting GLP gets you on their radar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75057918


Exactly. Who even knows what the criteria are? Have a silly spat with the wife, correct your children’s behavior, say (or type) that the whole idea of this is ridiculous, etc.?

At some point isn’t this kind of thing akin to acting without rule of law? Isn’t the 4th Amendment just as important as the others, or TPTB get to choose? What else do they selectively disregard or enforce?

It all boils down to a situation where the citizenry doesn’t know what the rules are, you just sit and wait for the ‘secret police’ to show up or not.

Not a good idea IMHO.
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Wifey bought an "ECHO".
I took it from her and smashed it.
I'm not a violent person by nature
so she kept her mouth shut.
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he is shifting the blame from THE GUN to THE PERSON, not bad. Problem is, who determines the criteria for mental health ??? What if visiting GLP gets you on their radar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75057918


Exactly. Who even knows what the criteria are? Have a silly spat with the wife, correct your children’s behavior, say (or type) that the whole idea of this is ridiculous, etc.?

At some point isn’t this kind of thing akin to acting without rule of law? Isn’t the 4th Amendment just as important as the others, or TPTB get to choose? What else do they selectively disregard or enforce?

It all boils down to a situation where the citizenry doesn’t know what the rules are, you just sit and wait for the ‘secret police’ to show up or not.

Not a good idea IMHO.
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Im suprised this one didnt get pinned over Hong Kong being the case for 2nd ammend...
Coastie Patriot
SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS

THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

to grow up remembering th

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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Holy fucking shit.

Are you kidding me?
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IKR!

Pin ‘er up, boss ;-)
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kinda ties in with this one

Thread: Gun owners you had better lube up. You are about to take a big one up the ass
Coastie Patriot
SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS

THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

to grow up remembering th

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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damned
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Good thing I don't have an Apple Watch or Amazon Echo -- and NEVER WILL.
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thanks for the pin , I felt this one was super important


Unless this is 5 d chess to get Google and companies to admit they spy and are listening and then get them for breaching the 4th !!! Not that optimistic though
Coastie Patriot
SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS

THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

to grow up remembering th

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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Yeah, just like he gave them the run around considering immigration reform with Pelosi, or the most recent considering full background check, etc.

Haven't you figured it out yet what he does and how he does it?
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epiclol


TRUST THE PLAN
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Holy fuck this nightmare is going from bad to worse. From stupid to all out retarded.
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Good thing I don't have an Apple Watch or Amazon Echo -- and NEVER WILL.
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No but i bet you have a smart phone, voice commands in your vehicle, laptop, pc with cam, voice response tv remote, ... and on and on!!! all capable of listening to make you jsut and algorithm for advertising data and predicting what you will do next!!!
Coastie Patriot
SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS

THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

to grow up remembering th

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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If this crazy shit does actually materialize, out goes my support, but...yeah, I think Trump is yanking the liberals' chains.
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“The Washington Post reported” - Might want to make sure this is legit before flying off the handle...
I don’t suffer fools or shills lightly...

Don’t gaslight me, bro.
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Holy fucking shit.

Are you kidding me?
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This is a Socialist Wet Dream!....
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he is shifting the blame from THE GUN to THE PERSON, not bad. Problem is, who determines the criteria for mental health ??? What if visiting GLP gets you on their radar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75057918


Yeah. Who gets to decide? This world has gone batshit crazy and I don’t think it can turn around except by some giant reset event
There's never a dull moment here on planet earth, unless GLP ceased to exist...

Oh, and Biden can't dress himself....





GLP