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Was the Garden of Eden located in the Philippines? The Persian Gulf? Turkey? Or Ethiopia?

To properly locate Eden and the Garden of Eden, one has to correct several misconceptions about them, and in this video I will be discussing the three most serious misconceptions of all.

Firstly, many people believe the garden is located inside Eden itself and on its east side, when in fact, the garden is located only towards East of Eden, but outside of it.

The second misconception about the Garden of Eden is that many people believe it is just a small plot of land, whereas this is very far from the truth based on how Genesis described the garden. How do I know that? The distances between the 4 heads or branches of the river that went out of the Garden of Eden, determines the size of the garden. And in this video I will identify the heads or sources of 2 of these 4 river branches to give you an idea of just how big the Garden of Eden really was.

A third misconception regarding the Garden of Eden was that the garden and its rivers are all visible still and are all above sea level.

In this video, I will be showing you that:

1. The Garden of Eden has sunk under the sea.

2. Parts of the main river that flowed eastward out of Eden and towards the garden are still visible and above sea level, however parts of it have sunk under the ocean, while parts of it have dried up, leaving behind only a visible depression on the ground.

3. The same can be said of the 4 rivers that branched out of the garden as what I just said about the main river that flowed eastward out of Eden. But in addition, I will also be showing in this video that some tributaries and branches of these 4 rivers have reversed the direction of their flow. And finally:

4. As for Eden itself, it is still visible but parts of it are now below sea level, and this is because the current sea level on Earth is higher than the sea level at the time of Adam and Eve.
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you should make a highlight reel that says all the main points of fact

before makign ppl watch the 30 minute video
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Nice thread, OP.

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One river mentioned in Genesis was the Gihon river which bordered the entire land of Ethiopia [Hebrew: Koosh]. The Hebrew word Koosh occurs 30 times in 30 verses in the Hebrew concordance of the King James Version. And the context of its use suggest that Koosh is located near the land of Egypt, at one of its borders.

Looking at a map of the ancient Egyptian empire, one can see that its southernmost border occupied a small portion of the northern part of modern day Ethiopia. And this is why Ethiopia is believed by many Biblical scholars to be the land of Koosh bordered by the Gihon river mentioned in Genesis. Now which river bordered the land of Ethiopia? Some people suggest it was the Blue Nile which is one of two sources of the Nile river, and which is located in Ethiopia. However, Wikipedia has this to say about this topic:
Wikipedia, Gihon: The author of Genesis describes Gihon as "encircling the entire land of Cush", a name associated with Ethiopia elsewhere in the Bible. This is the reason that Ethiopians have long identified the Gihon (Giyon) with the Abay River (Blue Nile), which encircles the former kingdom of Gojjam. From a geographical standpoint this would seem impossible, since two of the other rivers said to issue out of Eden, the Tigris and the Euphrates, are in Mesopotamia [which is too far away].
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The Blue Nile, located too far from the source of the Euphrates river, is not the only reason why this Ethiopian river cannot be the Gihon river mentioned in Genesis. Another reason is the fact that the Nile river in general, flows to the North and empties at the Mediterranean sea, while the Euphrates river (one of the 4 rivers that flowed out of Eden), in general flows to the south and empties at the Persian Sea. So clearly, the Nile river and the Euphrates river could not have originated from a common source.

So which river surrounds Ethiopia, that flows to the South like the Euphrates river, and whose source is located near the confluent source of the Euphrates at lake Keban?
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Nice thread, OP.
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Like everything else, the Temple, Israel, Christ Consciousness, The Garden of Eden is meant to be a state of mind, and not a plot of ground.
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Like everything else, the Temple, Israel, Christ Consciousness, The Garden of Eden is meant to be a state of mind, and not a plot of ground.
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Everything you mentioned was a state of God's Mind until He turned them to reality after creation.
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I believe a part of the Gihon river which bordered the land of Koosh is now currently the East African Rift, an active continental rift zone in East Africa. The rift, a narrow zone, is a developing divergent tectonic plate boundary where the African Plate is in the process of splitting into two tectonic plates, called the Somali Plate and the Nubian Plate. The East African Rift transects through Ethiopia, Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi, Zambia, Tanzania, Malawi and Mozambique. And all these countries, together with Somalia, comprised the ancient land of Koosh mentioned in Genesis.
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In the past the East African Rift was considered to be part of a larger Great Rift Valley that extended north to Asia Minor, also known as Anatolia. Now remember, the 2 identified sources of the Euphrates river namely, the Karasu river and the Murat river merge into one source in lake Keban, which is located in Eastern Anatolia.

And this is why I believe the Gihon river is now currently the East African Rift together with the larger Great Rift Valley that extended north to Asia minor. As this is the only way the 2 river heads coming from the Garden of Eden, namely the Gihon river and the Euphrates river, can be located within a reasonable distance from each other.
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you should make a highlight reel that says all the main points of fact

before makign ppl watch the 30 minute video
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The title of the video says it all. The true location of the Garden of Eden was identified in this video, as well as the 4 rivers that exited the Garden.
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Now in addition to the East African Rift, the Great Rift Valley is also composed of 3 other rifts, namely, the Red Sea Rift, the Dead Sea Rift, and the Jordan Rift Valley.

The East African Rift connects with the Red Sea Rift to the north. The Red Sea Rift is a spreading center between two tectonic plates, the African Plate and the Arabian Plate. Also, note that unlike the Nile river, the Red Sea which submerges entirely this rift flows south just like the Euphrates river, and its primary outflow is at Bab-el-Mandeb which connects the Red Sea to the Gulf of Aden.
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The northern end of the Red Sea Rift is located just offshore of the southern tip of the Sinai Peninsula. From there the Red Sea Rift connects with the Dead Sea Rift via the Gulf of Aqaba at its northeast. The Dead Sea Rift then continues from the Gulf of Aqaba towards the Dead Sea.
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From the Dead Sea, the Dead Sea Rift connects with the Jordan Rift Valley by passing through the Sea of Galilee and the Hulah Valley via the Jordan River which flows south, just like the Euphrates river. And the Jordan River’s primary outflow is the Dead Sea. Now, did John the baptist choose to baptise in the Jordan river because this river used to flow from the Garden of Eden?
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The word "Edan" (Akkadian Edunnu) is an anachronistic usage of Ezra the Scribe when he writes the Book of Genesis. Ezra lived in and after the Babylonian exile. That region near the Persian gulf in modern Iraq (ancient Babylon) where the four rivers meet is the region of ancient Aden.

Yes, mankind began in Babylon. The Garden of God was located in what today we think of as Babylon. That is why it is most ironic that very Paradise on earth became the very symbol for fallen man and the Whore.

It wasn't called Eden when Adam and Eve lived, that region of ancient Babylon was called Eden when Ezra wrote somewhere around 515 BC. So, we can know exactly where it was. Ezra wrote it anachronistically so we would know exactly where it was. A lot of it is under the Persian gulf today. The whole region is the fertile crescent, but not even close to as fertile as it once was.

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it wasn't on earth.. it was higher realms, the bible describes it as an earthy paradise as an analogy that simple minded people could understand.
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Ezra, in writing to post-exilic Hebrews in Genesis, writes "Eden" with such casualness that he assumes his immediate readers with know full well where Eden is. This is because his readers had just spent the last 70 years in Babylonian exile not far from it.

It's right in southern Iraq not far from ancient Ur and Babylon. Right where they had captives for 70 years. They knew all about that region. They lived in it.
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In reading the Dodecateuch (the first 12 Books of History) in the Bible, it is important to understand that Ezra wrote these histories first of all for his own generation and people after the Babylonian exile. The Bible even states this fact.

Ezra the priest, the scribe, even the scribe of the words of the commandments of the LORD, and of his statutes to Israel. - Ezra 7:11

That is why Ezra spends some time on the fall and banishment of man from the Paradise.

Ezra begins the Bible with where the captives currently are. The way he writes the history is to highlight the fact that where they currently were was the place of banishment of Adam and Eve because of their breaking of the eternal covenant of love and all creation.

His original readers would have felt that point in a much more pronounced way than perhaps we do today, because they were there. It begins with a history of exile, but it prophecies of a future Paradise regained.
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the flood destroyed the original geological layout
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the flood destroyed the original geological layout
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Even when an ancient river is submerged under the sea, like in the case of Nahr Menashe which I discussed in the video at 26:14 mark, scientists can tell that a river once flowed there through sedimentary deposits found under the sea that are unique to river channels. Please read the following link on how they discovered Nahr Menashe:
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The word "Edan" (Akkadian Edunnu) is an anachronistic usage of Ezra the Scribe when he writes the Book of Genesis. Ezra lived in and after the Babylonian exile. That region near the Persian gulf in modern Iraq (ancient Babylon) where the four rivers meet is the region of ancient Aden.

Yes, mankind began in Babylon. The Garden of God was located in what today we think of as Babylon. That is why it is most ironic that very Paradise on earth became the very symbol for fallen man and the Whore.

It wasn't called Eden when Adam and Eve lived, that region of ancient Babylon was called Eden when Ezra wrote somewhere around 515 BC. So, we can know exactly where it was. Ezra wrote it anachronistically so we would know exactly where it was. A lot of it is under the Persian gulf today. The whole region is the fertile crescent, but not even close to as fertile as it once was.

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I was always led to believe, that Moses, not Ezra, wrote the first 5 books, hence the Books of Moses.
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By Mara Johnson-Groh. 25 March 2019
A giant abandoned river system the size of the Nile was recently discovered under the eastern Mediterranean. The ancient river, named Nahr Menashe by its discoverers, flowed for only about 100,000 years, but the evidence it left behind is helping scientists understand what happened in the region in the late Miocene during the Messinian Salinity Crisis (MSC), when a diminished Mediterranean Sea was isolated from the Atlantic Ocean.

“People have predicted that [rivers] should have been flowing into this part of the Mediterranean, but nobody had ever seen it before,” Madof says. “This is the first major discovery [of a paleoriver] in decades.”
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I believe Nahr Menashe was a part of the Gihon River mentioned in Genesis.
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Madof and his colleagues used two- and three-dimensional seismic data collected offshore Cyprus, Israel, Lebanon, and Syria to image the subsurface of the eastern Mediterranean and map the river’s remains, which constituted a collection of sedimentary deposits they named Nahr Menashe. They determined that the river flowed out of what are today Turkey and Syria, draining into a lake in the dry Mediterranean basin. Sedimentary deposits in the seismic imagery indicated that the deposits had been left along riverbanks instead of undersea.
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I know where it is

And it's not in Egypt
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I know where it is

And it's not in Egypt
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Yes, it is not in Egypt.
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I know where it is

And it's not in Egypt
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Yes, it is not in Egypt.
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Ah ok
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The word "Edan" (Akkadian Edunnu) is an anachronistic usage of Ezra the Scribe when he writes the Book of Genesis. Ezra lived in and after the Babylonian exile. That region near the Persian gulf in modern Iraq (ancient Babylon) where the four rivers meet is the region of ancient Aden.

Yes, mankind began in Babylon. The Garden of God was located in what today we think of as Babylon. That is why it is most ironic that very Paradise on earth became the very symbol for fallen man and the Whore.

It wasn't called Eden when Adam and Eve lived, that region of ancient Babylon was called Eden when Ezra wrote somewhere around 515 BC. So, we can know exactly where it was. Ezra wrote it anachronistically so we would know exactly where it was. A lot of it is under the Persian gulf today. The whole region is the fertile crescent, but not even close to as fertile as it once was.

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I was always led to believe, that Moses, not Ezra, wrote the first 5 books, hence the Books of Moses.
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The first books of the Bible were traditionally ascribed to Moses because they contain his writing.

However, the actual scribe of the 12 books of history was Ezra. Moses wrote one scroll called the Book of the Law. This is inserted in whole in the Book of Deuteronomy. Moses also recorded the travels and wanderings of the Israelites.

Ezra collected these scrolls that had been taken to Babylon during the exile, all g with the Chronicles of the kings of Israel and the writings of Samuel. He put them all together in a 12 book narrative history so that not only would the histories not be lost, but the story behind those histories would not be lost.

In short, God preserved human history through Ezra the Scribe. He was royal scribe of Babylon. He had been educated at the best scribal institution in Babylon. He was a master scribe, historian, and priests.

I don't think Ezra would mind Moses getting credit for his narratives, albeit, Moses did not write the first 5 books of the Bible. Ezra 7:11 admits as much.
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I know where it is

And it's not in Egypt
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Yes, it is not in Egypt.
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Ah ok
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Watch the video to find out where the Garden of Eden was located and be amazed at how accurately Genesis described the Garden, its location, and the 4 rivers that flowed from the Garden!
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Very interesting, OP.

I was curious to see what has been found under the Black Sea, and apparently there are rivers with trees and waterfalls.

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Very interesting, OP.

I was curious to see what has been found under the Black Sea, and apparently there are rivers with trees and waterfalls.

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In part 2 of this video, you will see many proofs that the sea bed of the Black Sea was higher than it currently is, and also why it sunk under the sea. Also, you will be amazed to know where Eden is located, and where the Land of Nod, the city (east of Eden) built by Cain was located. I believe, the Land of Nod was Atlantis.

Thanks for the link!
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Another school of thought is that The Garden of Eden was in the spiritual realm and when Adam and Eve fell, they also fell vibrationally to the denser realm of earth from the realm (garden) of light.

The first and second books of Adam offer many insights into this.

There were also angelic beings guarding the way back to the garden and tree of life..... it may likely not exist on this dimensional plane IMHO.
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The word "Edan" (Akkadian Edunnu) is an anachronistic usage of Ezra the Scribe when he writes the Book of Genesis. Ezra lived in and after the Babylonian exile. That region near the Persian gulf in modern Iraq (ancient Babylon) where the four rivers meet is the region of ancient Aden.

Yes, mankind began in Babylon. The Garden of God was located in what today we think of as Babylon. That is why it is most ironic that very Paradise on earth became the very symbol for fallen man and the Whore.

It wasn't called Eden when Adam and Eve lived, that region of ancient Babylon was called Eden when Ezra wrote somewhere around 515 BC. So, we can know exactly where it was. Ezra wrote it anachronistically so we would know exactly where it was. A lot of it is under the Persian gulf today. The whole region is the fertile crescent, but not even close to as fertile as it once was.

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I was always led to believe, that Moses, not Ezra, wrote the first 5 books, hence the Books of Moses.
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It appears that the books Moshe wrote were lost and Ezra rewrote them from memory.

I haven't checked that out to my own satisfaction as of yet, but in the Torah, there are odd references to Moses if he was actually writing it. I dunno. But more people checking it is good!
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The word "Edan" (Akkadian Edunnu) is an anachronistic usage of Ezra the Scribe when he writes the Book of Genesis. Ezra lived in and after the Babylonian exile. That region near the Persian gulf in modern Iraq (ancient Babylon) where the four rivers meet is the region of ancient Aden.

Yes, mankind began in Babylon. The Garden of God was located in what today we think of as Babylon. That is why it is most ironic that very Paradise on earth became the very symbol for fallen man and the Whore.

It wasn't called Eden when Adam and Eve lived, that region of ancient Babylon was called Eden when Ezra wrote somewhere around 515 BC. So, we can know exactly where it was. Ezra wrote it anachronistically so we would know exactly where it was. A lot of it is under the Persian gulf today. The whole region is the fertile crescent, but not even close to as fertile as it once was.

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I was always led to believe, that Moses, not Ezra, wrote the first 5 books, hence the Books of Moses.
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The first books of the Bible were traditionally ascribed to Moses because they contain his writing.

However, the actual scribe of the 12 books of history was Ezra. Moses wrote one scroll called the Book of the Law. This is inserted in whole in the Book of Deuteronomy. Moses also recorded the travels and wanderings of the Israelites.

Ezra collected these scrolls that had been taken to Babylon during the exile, all g with the Chronicles of the kings of Israel and the writings of Samuel. He put them all together in a 12 book narrative history so that not only would the histories not be lost, but the story behind those histories would not be lost.

In short, God preserved human history through Ezra the Scribe. He was royal scribe of Babylon. He had been educated at the best scribal institution in Babylon. He was a master scribe, historian, and priests.

I don't think Ezra would mind Moses getting credit for his narratives, albeit, Moses did not write the first 5 books of the Bible. Ezra 7:11 admits as much.
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