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If you don’t buy cheap Chinese shit it doesn’t cost you anything. That’s the purpose of tariffs. To level the playing field so domestic goods can compete. I’d rather buy something made in USA that lasts 10 years then cheap Chinese garbage that lasts 3. With that example the Chinese goods costs 3xs as much as American
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Also, I think most people would be happy to pay a little more, if it goes into the pay packet on an indigenous worker
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quit buyin chinese shit, aiding the enemy
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Trump tariffs are set to cost U.S. households $2,000 in 2020, research group finds

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As an American citizen I'd be willing to pay $20,000 higher taxes next year to bring China down.

Keep it up president Trump! The tariffs are working!

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Long live Taiwan!
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research group finds

You can pay a group of people to find whatever you say
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Yet Trump keeps tweeting that China is paying these tariffs...

It's outright lies.
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Agree. It’s really a tax and a taxation without representation too.
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watching max Kaiser show on RT they made an interesting point

actually performing manufacturing in your courtly is important to being able to innovate

I think thats true because there are tiny details of the manufacturing process which inform your understanding of the underlying theory and its practical applications, we put all that in china we lose some of the gritty details we need to keep pushing the technology forward

and our decline as the leader in tech may have already begun, as china has beat us in 5G ... in any case, if we wanted the world to use our internet routers and systems ( so we can spy on them, of course ) how could that happen if it was made in china ? well I guess we thought we could continue to lead in areas essential to security while having everything else built in other nations
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quit buyin chinese shit, aiding the enemy
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it's too late they are addicts. i once was over-nighting at an airport hotel over there and met some older boozy educator slag in the bar who was bragging to me how she sold the entire contents of her school's industrial trade wing to someone for 60K American even though it cost them 2million American to accumulate over the years. when i asked why? she condescendingly told me Americans would be getting rich everyday sitting in front of a PC computer screen. i still totally hated fucked her senseless and she had huge tits but was utter myopic scum. this was 1998.
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I haven't felt the tariffs yet but one thing may hit me soon I take supplements and many of these are made in china ... china chemical and pharmaceutical manufacturing is huge
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China has to pay the taxes with US dollars and the only place China can acquire US dollars is from US consumers.


US consumers will and are paying the taxes.

Interest rates have been dropping since 1982 or for 37 years.

China was opened up to US consumer debt inflation in the late 1970's

All the surplus US dollars in China were then used to buy US treasuries which caused the treasuries to increase in price and yields to drop lower and lower.

For 37 years.

Now this is over.

Now yields have to rise up more and more.

To accomplish this prices have to rise more and more.

The tariffs along with increases in minimum wages are designed to ignite hyperinflation.

To break you all out of the mentality of the past 37 years with continuously dropping yields.

The Chinese monetary officials and the US monetary officials have been working together hand in hand for the past 37 years.
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Michael, I bear you no ill will but all of this you have posted is incorrect. Free market forces in the US will continue to work, and if we stop trade with China altogether we will simply move that trade to other countries who will not steal our intellectual property. We are not going to the insane $15 minimum wage, and if we do it won’t result in hyperinflation, it will just cost a lot of entry level workers their jobs when we go to automation instead. It will cause problems, but not hyperinflation. The US has its issues at present because of the socialists in our country, but we aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.

BTW, Canada should really be cheerleaders for the US, Particularly when it comes to issues of world power. . . Just saying.
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...tyrannical empire. ...
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Really - do tell.

How far does our Empire reach?

From who have we taken and NOT overpaid?
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Welcome to Trumps America flag waver
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Yet Trump keeps tweeting that China is paying these tariffs...

It's outright lies.
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Trin, have you realized these trump cultists can never be reasoned with or given any logic to comprehend? They will never get it, because if you say anything against their Idol, you are a commie, liberal, or suffer some type derangement syndrome! There is NO hope for them!! The Economy will collapse and they will cry and scream and blame everyone else for their ills!
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quit buyin chinese shit, aiding the enemy
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con
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Welcome to Trumps America flag waver
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it's been going downhill for them since Wilson got blackmailed a century ago
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China has to pay the taxes with US dollars and the only place China can acquire US dollars is from US consumers.


US consumers will and are paying the taxes.

Interest rates have been dropping since 1982 or for 37 years.

China was opened up to US consumer debt inflation in the late 1970's

All the surplus US dollars in China were then used to buy US treasuries which caused the treasuries to increase in price and yields to drop lower and lower.

For 37 years.

Now this is over.

Now yields have to rise up more and more.

To accomplish this prices have to rise more and more.

The tariffs along with increases in minimum wages are designed to ignite hyperinflation.

To break you all out of the mentality of the past 37 years with continuously dropping yields.

The Chinese monetary officials and the US monetary officials have been working together hand in hand for the past 37 years.
 Quoting: MlCHAEL


Michael, I bear you no ill will but all of this you have posted is incorrect. Free market forces in the US will continue to work, and if we stop trade with China altogether we will simply move that trade to other countries who will not steal our intellectual property. We are not going to the insane $15 minimum wage, and if we do it won’t result in hyperinflation, it will just cost a lot of entry level workers their jobs when we go to automation instead. It will cause problems, but not hyperinflation. The US has its issues at present because of the socialists in our country, but we aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.

BTW, Canada should really be cheerleaders for the US, Particularly when it comes to issues of world power. . . Just saying.
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you do not have a free market you have cronyism
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Yet Trump keeps tweeting that China is paying these tariffs...

It's outright lies.
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Trin, have you realized these trump cultists can never be reasoned with or given any logic to comprehend? They will never get it, because if you say anything against their Idol, you are a commie, liberal, or suffer some type derangement syndrome! There is NO hope for them!! The Economy will collapse and they will cry and scream and blame everyone else for their ills!
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eyeroll2
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Trump tariffs are set to cost U.S. households $2,000 in 2020, research group finds

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Don’t need it. Won’t buy it. Problem solved.
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Still cheaper than Obamacare.
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Americans have completely lost their minds.

Americans scream that the minimum wage must be raised and then Americans are baffled why prices rise and businesses close.

Americans beg for a trade war and Americans are shocked when prices rise and exports fall.

Americans say that the US should start wars and then Americans are puzzled why the debt rises, refugees increase, terrorism happens, and the police state grows.

Americans insist smoking must be illegal and then Americans are stunned when prisons become overcrowded.

Americans used to hate Nazis and Commies, but now Americans have now become Nazis and Commies.

Americans used to hate North Korea, but now Americans say that the USA should become North Korea.

Americans used to love personal responsibility, morality, balanced budgets, peace, and freedom, but Americans now love disgusting dependence, immorality, debt, war, and tyranny.

WTF?
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We're going to start making our own shit again. We'll be putting even more people to work and you'll be losing more than we will! Your war machine money isn't here anymore Mr Chan.
I lost my apathy.
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you do not have a free market you have cronyism
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Uhhh, what system doesn't have cronyism?

I lived in a commune for a short time - they had cronyism.

I lived in Saudi Arabia for a short time - they had cronyism.

I lived in the UK for a short time - they had cronyism.

I worked in a Chicago union job for a short time - they had cronyism.

Don't be telling' us that Communists, Marxists, Leninists, don't have cronyism.
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Detroit is a perfect example of what happens when you do business with China! Fuck you!
I lost my apathy.
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This 'trade war' is designed to dehegemonize the US dollar and usher in a global digital reserve currency.

It will end up doing the exact opposite of what Trump says it will do.

We're all being played - and those who cheer it on are getting played the hardest.
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Not this bullschit again....

The Chinese Consumer is paying for most of the tariffs through government currency manipulation and hyperinflation for it’s own citizens, to maintain market share.
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Americans have completely lost their minds.

Americans scream that the minimum wage must be raised and then Americans are baffled why prices rise and businesses close.

Americans beg for a trade war and Americans are shocked when prices rise and exports fall.

Americans say that the US should start wars and then Americans are puzzled why the debt rises, refugees increase, terrorism happens, and the police state grows.

Americans insist smoking must be illegal and then Americans are stunned when prisons become overcrowded.

Americans used to hate Nazis and Commies, but now Americans have now become Nazis and Commies.

Americans used to hate North Korea, but now Americans say that the USA should become North Korea.

Americans used to love personal responsibility, morality, balanced budgets, peace, and freedom, but Americans now love disgusting dependence, immorality, debt, war, and tyranny.

WTF?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77987264


We're going to start making our own shit again. We'll be putting even more people to work and you'll be losing more than we will! Your war machine money isn't here anymore Mr Chan.
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Ahhh, one person gets it. Don't be surprised if your post disappears.
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Yet Trump keeps tweeting that China is paying these tariffs...

It's outright lies.
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Trin, have you realized these trump cultists can never be reasoned with or given any logic to comprehend? They will never get it, because if you say anything against their Idol, you are a commie, liberal, or suffer some type derangement syndrome! There is NO hope for them!! The Economy will collapse and they will cry and scream and blame everyone else for their ills!
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eyeroll2
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Was I talking to you?
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When I was a kid tariffs were extreme high, and EVERYTHING was made in America, electronics, appliances, food, cloths, etc., and it was all really good and clean.

All the shit that comes from China is so toxic I have to bake it off before I can bring it in the house, which is anything plastic that heats up.

All Chinese goods needs to be banned.
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you do not have a free market you have cronyism
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Uhhh, what system doesn't have cronyism?

I lived in a commune for a short time - they had cronyism.

I lived in Saudi Arabia for a short time - they had cronyism.

I lived in the UK for a short time - they had cronyism.

I worked in a Chicago union job for a short time - they had cronyism.

Don't be telling' us that Communists, Marxists, Leninists, don't have cronyism.
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