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What is "The people of Israel" ?

 
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What is "The people of Israel" ?
1) What is "The people of Israel" ?

The people of Israel have existed for thousands of years.

It has its own particular, essential, nature.

The Torah is the source of its essential nature.

Without Torah and faith there is no people of Israel.

Whoever denies the Torah and the Faith is no longer part of the people of Israel.

The purpose of the People of Israel in this world is Divine service.

Their salvation is occupation in Divine Service.

2) What is Zionism?

Zionism is a relatively new thing.

It has only existed for a century.

Zionism redefines the true essential nature of the people of Israel, and substitutes for it a completely contradictory and opposite character - a materialistic worldly nation.

Their misfortune is lack of what other nations have. i.e. a state and army.

Their salvation is possession of a state and army etc.

This is clearly spelled out in the circles of Zionist though, and among the leaders of the Zionist state, that through changing the nature and character of the people of Israel and by changing their way of thinking they can set before the People of Israel "their salvation" -- a state and an army.

The People of Israel oppose the so-called "State of Israel" for four reasons:

FIRST -- Because this is diametrically opposed and completely contradictory to the true essence and foundation of the people of Israel, as is explained above. Because the only time that the people of Israel were permitted to have a state was two thousand years ago when the glory of the creator was upon us. And likewise in the future when the glory of the creator will once more be revealed, and the whole world will serve Him. Then He Himself (without any human effort or force of arms) will grant us a kingdom founded on divine Service. However, a worldly state, like those possessed by other peoples, is contradictory to the true essence of the People of Israel. Whoever calls this the salvation of Israel shows that he denies the essence of the People of Israel, and substitutes another nature, a worldly materialistic nature, and therefore sets before them, a worldly materialistic "salvation." And the means of achieving this "salvation" is also worldly and materialistic i.e. to organize a land and army. However, the true salvation of the People of Israel is to draw close to the Creator And this is not done by organization and force of arms. Rather it is done by occupation to Torah and good deeds.

SECOND -- Because of all of this and other reason's the Torah forbids us to end the exile and establish a state and army until the Holy One, blessed He, in His Glory and Essence redeem us. This is forbidden even if the state is conducted according to the law of the Torah. Because arising from the exile itself is forbidden, and we are required to remain under the rule of the nations of the world, as is explained in the book VAYOEL MOSHE. And transgress this injunction, He will bring upon us (may we be spared) terrible punishment.

THIRD Aside from arising from exile, all the deeds of the Zionists are diametrically opposed to the Faith and the Torah. Because the foundation of the Faith and Torah of Israel, is that the Torah was revealed from heaven, and there is reward for those who obey it and punishment for those who transgress it. The entire People of Israel is required to obey the Torah, and whoever doesn't want to, ceases to be part of the congregation of Israel.

FOURTH -- Aside from the fact that they themselves do not obey the Torah they do everything they can to prevent anyone they get under their power from fulfilling the commands of the Torah, the claims to freedom of religion are lies. They fight with all of their strength to destroy the Faith of Israel.

The Zionists claim that they are the saviors of Israel, but this is refuted by twelve things:

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Here are the people of Israel

2. Corinthians 5
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!

Galatians 6
14But as for me, may I never boast, except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through whicha the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world. 15For neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything. What counts is a new creation. 16Peace and mercy to all who walk by this rule, even to the Israel of God.
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1) What is "The people of Israel" ?

The people of Israel have existed for thousands of years.

It has its own particular, essential, nature.

The Torah is the source of its essential nature.

Without Torah and faith there is no people of Israel.

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Very well said
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Extinct myths as the basis of endemic criminality against others.
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