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Amazon ‘smart’ doorbell company partnered with 400+ police departments to surveil your neighborhood

 
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Over 400 US police forces have access to the video footage generated by Amazon’s “smart” Ring doorbells, creating an unprecedented - and largely unaccountable - surveillance network outside existing legal structures.

Video-sharing partnerships allow law enforcement to automatically request video from Ring owners within a designated timeframe and area, giving them access to millions of cameras that police claim have proved invaluable for investigations. Officers are not supposed to receive access to live-streaming video, and users can deny the footage requests – which come in the form of emails thanking them for “making your neighborhood a safer place” –but they don’t always have the option of saying “no.”

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Is there nothing they don't spy on with their equipment?
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Over 400 US police forces have access to the video footage generated by Amazon’s “smart” Ring doorbells, creating an unprecedented - and largely unaccountable - surveillance network outside existing legal structures.

Video-sharing partnerships allow law enforcement to automatically request video from Ring owners within a designated timeframe and area, giving them access to millions of cameras that police claim have proved invaluable for investigations. Officers are not supposed to receive access to live-streaming video, and users can deny the footage requests – which come in the form of emails thanking them for “making your neighborhood a safer place” –but they don’t always have the option of saying “no.”

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Is there nothing they don't spy on with their equipment?
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wtf FREEDOM. NOTHING TO HIDE RIGHT?
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Thanks for the pin.
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Thread: I'm Sorry Dave, I'm Afraid I Can't Do That.
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:cantbegood: ohyeah
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Trump Admin Is Considering Using Amazon Echo And Apple Watch To Determine If Citizens Should Own A Gun

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09/11/2019 06:31 AM
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bozos is so filthy rich at this point he doesnt care and is following whatever script tptb throw at him, seems at this point they are trying to discredit amazon to break the monopoly down.
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09/11/2019 06:34 AM
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Usually I'm against police state surveillance. But this might be useful. These cams are filming the road, not the inside of your home. If it helps catching mail thieves, home invaders and other scum, I would be OK with it.
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If only people would follow the law, there would be no need for security.
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09/11/2019 06:44 AM
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Usually I'm against police state surveillance. But this might be useful. These cams are filming the road, not the inside of your home. If it helps catching mail thieves, home invaders and other scum, I would be OK with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77995456


Halsema, dat you?
Why don't you go fik up Holland?

Oh wait...
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If only people would follow the law, there would be no need for security.
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LOL what law?

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We will force you at gunpoint to sign for this ticket for speeden!"
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Over 400 US police forces have access to the video footage generated by Amazon’s “smart” Ring doorbells, creating an unprecedented - and largely unaccountable - surveillance network outside existing legal structures.

Video-sharing partnerships allow law enforcement to automatically request video from Ring owners within a designated timeframe and area, giving them access to millions of cameras that police claim have proved invaluable for investigations. Officers are not supposed to receive access to live-streaming video, and users can deny the footage requests – which come in the form of emails thanking them for “making your neighborhood a safer place” –but they don’t always have the option of saying “no.”

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Is there nothing they don't spy on with their equipment?
 Quoting: keybored


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can't really blame the human element of "corruption" to useful methods of solving crimes? same goes to all the asshats that hide behind alphabet agencies, gotta weed out all the bad apples, blaming the "whole" doesn't solve anything.



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Usually I'm against police state surveillance. But this might be useful. These cams are filming the road, not the inside of your home. If it helps catching mail thieves, home invaders and other scum, I would be OK with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77995456


Halsema, dat you?
Why don't you go fik up Holland?

Oh wait...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77995428


WTF are you talking about?
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09/11/2019 07:00 AM
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Rear view cameras pre installed on vehicles. Im sure theyre just for the driver to surveil his surroundings ;)
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extension of Facial Recognition capability.
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extension of Facial Recognition capability.
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^^ this ^^ (and more).....

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I'm sure it doesn't possibly take pictures and video of EVERYONE who comes to your home, recording their voice as well so a database of who you associate with can be formed.
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09/11/2019 08:29 AM
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I'm sure it doesn't possibly take pictures and video of EVERYONE who comes to your home, recording their voice as well so a database of who you associate with can be formed.
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millions of photos per hour. and the computers
automatically scan them and evaluate them.
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09/11/2019 08:32 AM
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Usually I'm against police state surveillance. But this might be useful. These cams are filming the road, not the inside of your home. If it helps catching mail thieves, home invaders and other scum, I would be OK with it.
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No. Just no. If you cant figure out the reason then really sit and think about it.
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I'm pretty sure big brother is already watching over every camera device you have.
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If only people would follow the law, there would be no need for security.
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yeah...

if only.

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Usually I'm against police state surveillance. But this might be useful. These cams are filming the road, not the inside of your home. If it helps catching mail thieves, home invaders and other scum, I would be OK with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77995456


No. Just no. If you cant figure out the reason then really sit and think about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77749705


Still don't see a problem.

I have a regular security cam next to my front door. I provided footage to cops and it helped catching an arsonist who liked to set random cars on fire in my town.
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1984

Resistance is Futile
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Usually I'm against police state surveillance. But this might be useful. These cams are filming the road, not the inside of your home. If it helps catching mail thieves, home invaders and other scum, I would be OK with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77995456


it doesn't even matter anymore-anyone can be falsely accused using deep fake videos. the doors on the digital prison slammed shut long ago and if you don't have deep pockets for a video forensic expert, you're fucked. Most are just now realizing, my kids will never know true freedom.
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09/11/2019 09:55 AM

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Well at least Alexa doesn’t talk to the police.

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Typical Corporate Greed!

Of course the deal was never disclosed to the buyers of the Ring Doorbell.

Time to pry mine off the wall and get something else! Fuck em!
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I have a Ring camera and it's a piece of shit. Always misses motion and starts recording too late. I've stood outside at night moving around in front of it and sometimes the motion detector light doesn't even turn on.
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Usually I'm against police state surveillance. But this might be useful. These cams are filming the road, not the inside of your home. If it helps catching mail thieves, home invaders and other scum, I would be OK with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77995456


it doesn't even matter anymore-anyone can be falsely accused using deep fake videos. the doors on the digital prison slammed shut long ago and if you don't have deep pockets for a video forensic expert, you're fucked. Most are just now realizing, my kids will never know true freedom.
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This too. We're too far down the police state rabbit hole already for trying to oppose these kinds of things.
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09/11/2019 10:08 AM
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Isn't the footage owned by the owner of the doorbell?
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09/11/2019 10:25 AM
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Honest to god that surveillance doorbell tool helps.

We have door to door knockers ( that supposedly sell shit and you never know if their up to no good and criminals that case joints and guess what that camera does. gives a chance for facial recognition each time those idiots do that. And guess what that tells the police department. Who to look for. And I am 100% ok with it.
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This is a sensualist story.

The cops aren't accessing cameras without the owners permission but they way the story is headlined it alludes that they are. They have to request to get access to view a video. They're just making a framework to make this process seamless.

It would be no different than if a policeman came and knocked on your door and said, between such and such times there was a crime can we get a copy of the video. They're just making the process electronic. You can opt-in and opt out at any time.





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