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Can you just give us a TL;DR?
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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!
The suffering servant is Messiah.
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The suffering servant is Messiah.
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The suffering servant is the dialogue between a person's soul and God.
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nope

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77990091


Can you just give us a TL;DR?
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Suffering servant is the nation of Israel, and even if it was Messiah (which it is not) it could never possibly match jesus. Proven from scripture alone, no oral Torah no Talmud no Rabbinic homilies just pure scriptures.
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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!
The suffering servant is Messiah.
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Citation needed!
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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!
More Pharisee lies, yawn.
Face it, you are the Synagogue of Satan, children of the Father of Lies, so everything you say is automatically either a lie or the truth twisted so much it is no better than a lie.
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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!
More Pharisee lies, yawn.
Face it, you are the Synagogue of Satan, children of the Father of Lies, so everything you say is automatically either a lie or the truth twisted so much it is no better than a lie.
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The Rabbi used only scriptures, no Rabbinic homilies no Talmud no Oral Torah... Just scriptures.

Can you do the same to prove your position on Isaiah 53?

(I'll be representing the Rabbi since I know the topic very well.)
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Well maybe if you all read it in services the congregation would think otherwise?

"Therefore will I divide him a portion among the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the mighty; because he bared his soul unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors; yet he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. " 53:12 (JPS_1917)

Israel does not bore the sin of many nor make intercession for the transgressors.
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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!
More Pharisee lies, yawn.
Face it, you are the Synagogue of Satan, children of the Father of Lies, so everything you say is automatically either a lie or the truth twisted so much it is no better than a lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47917221


The Rabbi used only scriptures, no Rabbinic homilies no Talmud no Oral Torah... Just scriptures.

Can you do the same to prove your position on Isaiah 53?

(I'll be representing the Rabbi since I know the topic very well.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77990091


He uses the Masoretic.
So it doesn't matter what you argue, because you are automatically wrong because you are using a polluted source.
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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!
The suffering servant is Messiah.
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The suffering servant is the dialogue between a person's soul and God.
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This interpretation is no different than all those who follow after the demiurge theory...

The pathway to self-godhood.

The hymn of satan.
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SHIT
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The old testament god is known as yahweh sabaoth to the heens, and known as indra to the hindus.
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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77990091


Can you just give us a TL;DR?
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Suffering servant is the nation of Israel, and even if it was Messiah (which it is not) it could never possibly match jesus. Proven from scripture alone, no oral Torah no Talmud no Rabbinic homilies just pure scriptures.
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He is not the nation of Israel.
The king of Israel is Jesus.
Israel is those IN HIM
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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!
More Pharisee lies, yawn.
Face it, you are the Synagogue of Satan, children of the Father of Lies, so everything you say is automatically either a lie or the truth twisted so much it is no better than a lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47917221


The Rabbi used only scriptures, no Rabbinic homilies no Talmud no Oral Torah... Just scriptures.

Can you do the same to prove your position on Isaiah 53?

(I'll be representing the Rabbi since I know the topic very well.)
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So what Satan quoted scripture to Jesus what’s your point
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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!
Galatians 6:
15For neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything. What counts is a new creation. 16Peace and mercy to all who walk by this rule, even to the Israel of God.

2 Corinthians 5
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come

Stop listening to the lying 'rabbis'
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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77990091


Can you just give us a TL;DR?
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Her is Ju-daism's summary
"They are the messiah'

Christians heads up: Jesus told us why they sought to kill the son - to steal HIS inheritance
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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!
Well maybe if you all read it in services the congregation would think otherwise?

"Therefore will I divide him a portion among the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the mighty; because he bared his soul unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors; yet he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. " 53:12 (JPS_1917)

Israel does not bore the sin of many nor make intercession for the transgressors.
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We bear the sins of the many Gentiles against us.

Yet by our knowledge (not blood, read the chapter) and by our daily prayers over the whole world we save you.
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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!
More Pharisee lies, yawn.
Face it, you are the Synagogue of Satan, children of the Father of Lies, so everything you say is automatically either a lie or the truth twisted so much it is no better than a lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47917221


The Rabbi used only scriptures, no Rabbinic homilies no Talmud no Oral Torah... Just scriptures.

Can you do the same to prove your position on Isaiah 53?

(I'll be representing the Rabbi since I know the topic very well.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77990091


So what Satan quoted scripture to Jesus what’s your point
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76418605


So even if the truth is shown by satan, it is not truth.

Interesting.

So if you don't care about what scriptures have to say... Why do even dare make a claim regarding scriptures.
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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!
Don’t you have some local slaves to shoot or steal their land
Jesus is also the Father God

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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!
A "rabbi"...
"explains"...

There's your problems.

St. Matthew 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.


Some versions say Teacher in place of Master.

So, a teacher teaches about... the Teacher who teaches??!?!


Why?!?!

Just ask the Teacher.
Jesus Christ is God. Read the Holy Bible, keep his commandments, obey all of his commands, save your soul.
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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!
St. John 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
St. John 4:26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.
Jesus Christ is God. Read the Holy Bible, keep his commandments, obey all of his commands, save your soul.
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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!
Well maybe if you all read it in services the congregation would think otherwise?

"Therefore will I divide him a portion among the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the mighty; because he bared his soul unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors; yet he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. " 53:12 (JPS_1917)

Israel does not bore the sin of many nor make intercession for the transgressors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75540213


We bear the sins of the many Gentiles against us.

Yet by our knowledge (not blood, read the chapter) and by our daily prayers over the whole world we save you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77990091


So you are saying that Israel is Messiah? Jacob did/does no such thing. The only way you could do that is if the Temple was built and animal sacrifices resumed again. But the propitiation for sin has already been made, but if you understood that you would not be compelled to complete another Temple.

The dry shank bone does not count.
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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!
More Pharisee lies, yawn.
Face it, you are the Synagogue of Satan, children of the Father of Lies, so everything you say is automatically either a lie or the truth twisted so much it is no better than a lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47917221


The Rabbi used only scriptures, no Rabbinic homilies no Talmud no Oral Torah... Just scriptures.

Can you do the same to prove your position on Isaiah 53?

(I'll be representing the Rabbi since I know the topic very well.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77990091


So what Satan quoted scripture to Jesus what’s your point
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76418605


So even if the truth is shown by satan, it is not truth.

Interesting.

So if you don't care about what scriptures have to say... Why do even dare make a claim regarding scriptures.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77990091


Way to ignore and sidestep the response.
What the scriptures "say" is either
1) the understanding of men
2) the understanding of God

Those rabbis are the former and infect everyone with their understanding
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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!
St. Matthew 22:41 While the Pharisees (rabbis) were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
St. Matthew 22:42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The son of David.
St. Matthew 22:43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,
St. Matthew 22:44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?
St. Matthew 22:45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?
St. Matthew 22:46 And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions.


(Psalms 110:1 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!
Well maybe if you all read it in services the congregation would think otherwise?

"Therefore will I divide him a portion among the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the mighty; because he bared his soul unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors; yet he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. " 53:12 (JPS_1917)

Israel does not bore the sin of many nor make intercession for the transgressors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75540213


We bear the sins of the many Gentiles against us.

Yet by our knowledge (not blood, read the chapter) and by our daily prayers over the whole world we save you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77990091


So you are saying that Israel is Messiah? Jacob did/does no such thing. The only way you could do that is if the Temple was built and animal sacrifices resumed again. But the propitiation for sin has already been made, but if you understood that you would not be compelled to complete another Temple.

The dry shank bone does not count.
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No.
We argue that Isaiah 53 is not about Messiah!

You assert that it is when there is no evidence for it!
You say messiah = jesus = suffering servant there for suffering servant = messiah!

This is your circular reasoning!

But we argue suffering servant is not Messiah.
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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!
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The Rabbi used only scriptures, no Rabbinic homilies no Talmud no Oral Torah... Just scriptures.

Can you do the same to prove your position on Isaiah 53?

(I'll be representing the Rabbi since I know the topic very well.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77990091


So what Satan quoted scripture to Jesus what’s your point
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76418605


So even if the truth is shown by satan, it is not truth.

Interesting.

So if you don't care about what scriptures have to say... Why do even dare make a claim regarding scriptures.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77990091


Way to ignore and sidestep the response.
What the scriptures "say" is either
1) the understanding of men
2) the understanding of God

Those rabbis are the former and infect everyone with their understanding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77873998


So if anyone uses scriptures agaisnt jesus, it is satanic.

Why?

Could it be that if someone uses scripture for jesus he that is in fact satanic?
Jesus is also the Father God

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Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible!
What scriptures do you have FOR Messiah? It seems like there are none, and what everyone else SEES as referring to the Messiah you Hebrews claim refers to the Hebrews in general. Can you please make a LIST of ALL scriptures you say (YOU SAY! HAH!) that point to Messiah? I'd be interested to use them to point you and all Hebrews to Jesus Messiah.
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OP believes there will be a Messiah but does not know where the verses are found?
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What scriptures do you have FOR Messiah? It seems like there are none, and what everyone else SEES as referring to the Messiah you Hebrews claim refers to the Hebrews in general. Can you please make a LIST of ALL scriptures you say (YOU SAY! HAH!) that point to Messiah? I'd be interested to use them to point you and all Hebrews to Jesus Messiah.
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Almost all the stuff you say jesus will do in the second coming are what we consider scriptures about Messiah.

What you say jesus did the first time, are taken from scriptures that are not about the Messiah.





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