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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77650411 United States 09/11/2019 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25106814 Oh, is that why all the writers in the NT spoke of his coming quick? Now please pull out the Peter II quote about a thousand years. You do worship a dead man, the insides of your churches have him hanging all over the place. The Torah being written on peoples heart is a prophecy from Jeremiah and has nothing to due with Moses in the desert. You really have no biblical claim on the truth. Don't quote the NT to try to prove your point. Every time I make this request you fail because you know the OT doesn't support you and your dead man-god who didn't fulfill any of the true messianic prophecies. Your ancestors got kicked to the curb for the SAME things that you modern-day Pharisees are doing. You are too blind to see it. Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? Exodus 4:22 say onto pharoah, ISRAEL IS MY SON even my first born. I think I answered the question. Seems like to me it's not jesus. Who was the first that was born of, or "begotten of" God? Who is God's son? Don't say Adam! The OT never says god is going to beget a son. That was added later. |
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User ID: 77035453 United States 09/11/2019 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! Just what we need, someone else telling you what something says. Don't you people understand that you're supposed to think for yourselves not what others think. Use your damn brains. The teachings of Jesus and the Old Testament say that the way to God come from personal enlightenment, not, go to this guy he knows the deal. SMDH! Last Edited by Daggo on 09/11/2019 04:22 PM :Pirate Flag: 8-14-2018 The day Free Speech died in America |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5270193 United States 09/11/2019 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! machiach ben Joseph is spoken of in Talmud Im pretty sure which refers to joseph as the type and shadow of messiah to come.... remember the story? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5270193 Joseph rejected by his brothers, thrown into a pit and sold off into slavery but considered dead. He rises up in the ranks of the Egyptian empire (gentiles) as a god (pagan) and speaks Egyptian to his brothers when they seek out help and bow down before him. He hides his identity (Isreal to current day Israel). He speaks harshly to them (scares the living daylights out of them) and sends them away and on their "second coming" reveals himself to them as their brother whom they tried to kill (He forgives them). NOTE: Jevvs today think of Jesus as a pagan Idol worshiped by the Nations but in reality He is the brother that they rejected and will one day receive on His second coming. Get ready Israel... many are already coming to Yeshua. I listened to this whole 'sermon' and found NOTHING that contradicts christian theology except for the fact that rabbi is interpreting it according to Jewish bias and not understanding true forgiveness of sins and the sin nature. Atonement is Jesus. Passover lamb is Jesus... all the festivals point to Jesus. Listen to Rabbi Cahn's teaching on youtube and also to one of your Foremost Israeli rabbis who revealed the name of the Messiah a few years ago after his death [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] The messiah's name is Yehushua according to foremost rabbi in Israel. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5270193 United States 09/11/2019 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! Here is a good debate between a rabbi reformed and messianic Jevv Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5270193 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] This explains the issues pretty clearly from both perspectives. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77938892 Netherlands 09/11/2019 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! Your ancestors got kicked to the curb for the SAME things that you modern-day Pharisees are doing. Quoting: TheLordsServant For not keeping the torah Not for not worshipping jc Beside it will probably piss the mashiach off if you worship him for G-d because you would commit idolatry Read it again christards Since the mashiach would be the highest chacham yet seen worshipping him would make you his enemy since you transgress the torah |
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User ID: 46427198 United States 09/11/2019 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! Psalms 2:5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. Psalms 2:6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. Psalms 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Is King David the first born son of God? But how? Jacob was before him. How do you reason the scriptures? What does it mean to be born of God in this context? There is certainly A first born son of God, who is Israel, who is not David, and is a person. To understand what it means you need to look at the word first born or, begotten. Eve begat Cain, or another way the bible uses this same concept it says Abraham begot Isaac. Did Isaac come from Abraham's womb? No. So we can discard that use of the concept of begot or begotten or, "came out of" (Abraham). God begot a son, a first born. When? Throughout all time, when did God create? In the first 6 days. Does God have an equal? No. Does God have a queen? No. Does God have a wife? No. A son proceeded forth from God himself who is the maker of all things. From God directly, out of his Spirit, the power of God, came forth a son whom he calls his OWN son. Let US make man in OUR image. Jesus Christ is God. Read the Holy Bible, keep his commandments, obey all of his commands, save your soul. Jesus blesses you! <3 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69959860 United States 09/11/2019 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! Op by your reasoning your are saying that all Israel is the scapegoat by having sin placed on them. Don't get your playbook confused with Levitical Law. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75540213 You ask me to go deeper... I am happy to do so. See, there is no scapegoatism in the OT (for humans that is). If you read the context you will understand that G-d is the one who sends the Gentile nations to make Israel suffer, because that's how G-d punishes Israel for breaking the Law. BUT! The nations went overboard with their chastisement. Which is why G-d punishes the nations, Not for making Israel suffer, but for making Israel more than G-d thinks Israel deserves. So then it says the servant will put his soul as an offering of guilt, which means he admits he is guilty for breaking the Law, because the whole idea of guilt offerings is that the offender admits he broke the law. So when he admits THEN G-D LIFTS HIM UP AND SAVES HIM FROM HIS MISERY! Read Moses, Moses constanly says, that if Israel breaks the law they will suffer at the hands of the Gentiles, if Israel keeps the Law and repents, G-d sill save Israel from those Gentiles. Fits Isaiah 53 PERFECTLY! Why should anyone care though? Your god is just a bullshitter. The whole thing is a bunch of lies. |
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User ID: 78001106 United States 09/13/2019 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! I guess the Sanhedrin rabbi's are still training him Thread: Rabbi: Messiah Began on Sunday, Will Appear on Purim, and Will Finish With Israeli Elections... I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47829455 United States 09/14/2019 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! I guess the Sanhedrin rabbi's are still training him Quoting: TheLordsServant Thread: Rabbi: Messiah Began on Sunday, Will Appear on Purim, and Will Finish With Israeli Elections... Did they train him where to be born, dud they pray over the virgin to give them their leader? Throughout the history of the Hebrews there have been some real deluded ones as with others of all cultures. |
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User ID: 78003230 United States 09/14/2019 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! I guess the Sanhedrin rabbi's are still training him Quoting: TheLordsServant Thread: Rabbi: Messiah Began on Sunday, Will Appear on Purim, and Will Finish With Israeli Elections... Did they train him where to be born, dud they pray over the virgin to give them their leader? Throughout the history of the Hebrews there have been some real deluded ones as with others of all cultures. Pharisee ancestors THOUGHT they had a "proper understanding" of the OT prophecies when they "annointed" Simon Bar Kokhba as the "messiah". See how that turned out? Now, modern day Pharisees THINK that they are right just as their ancestors did. The REAL Truth 1. Thoughout the Old Testament, the Hebrews continually disregarded Father God's warnings as given to the prophets. 2. Thoughout the Old Testament, the Hebrews continually disobeyed Father God and were punished. 3. Thoughout the Old Testament, Father God, through the prophets, continually prophecy of sending someone to the people of Israel. 4. The New Testament tells us that Father God sent His only-begotten Son, who the Pharisees and Sadducees rejected. 5. Yeshua was crucified by the Romans based on false accusations by the Sanhedrin, and the details match Old Testament prophecy. 6. 30+ years after Jesus' death, the Romans destroy Jerusalem and the temple. 7. 100 years later, in 136 AD, Simon Bar Kokhba, the Pharisee's "chosen" messiah", and his band of radicals, are utterly destroyed by the Roman army, and most of the remaining Hebrew people are scattered to the 4 winds for the next 1900 years. The Hebrew people are then persecuted where-ever they go in the world during that time. Last Edited by Servant-of-the-LORD on 09/14/2019 07:59 PM I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78139240 Norway 11/04/2019 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! I skimmed trough it, but isaiah 53 is clear: it is NOT the nation of Israel, isaiah 49 narrows it down to a singular person, a redeemer of Jacob (nation of Israel). In Psalm 22:16 this rabbi blatantly lies or is extremely ignorant/unkowing. A MINORITY of the masoretic texts says PIERCED, however the septuagint (OT cowithness in greek) and the syriac (OT cowithness in arameic) both are aprox 1000 years older and say PIERCED. And what do the dead sea scrolls say? [link to dssenglishbible.com] Of 2 different scrolls BOTH SAY PIERCED. So what happened here? Lets have Michael Brown explain it: The rest of your claims are refuted on that channel. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78139240 Norway 11/04/2019 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! The name "Israel" means wrestle with God so just in the name you know the relationship between God and his chosen ones is dramatic. You can't earn Gods love, Gods love include gentiles. Abraham was not Israeli and was justified by faith. Faith has allways been what made us right with God, not our genes or DNA. Thats why Jesus said you have to be BORN AGAIN. Jesus/Yeshua is NOT the false "yeshu" of the rabbis OR the pope. The true Yeshua is the pne on the new testament and few know him and what he taught because few actually read the bible, which obiously include lots of popes which many Christians including many roman catholics it seems think are run by satan himself since from what i have seen of him teach the exact OPPOSITE of what the bible say for some strange reason. Yeshua was a fullblooded Israeli. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78139240 Norway 11/04/2019 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! The Christians worship a dead man, an idol as God. Committing the oldest and most serious sin in the book. Idolatry and blasphemy. The end. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78136852 You don't believe in the bible so we don't care about your definition of "blasphemy". Only followers of God are in position to define that. Israel today are a creation of God and the motherof our faith and Messiah with promises of him (which is why we support Israel) but not in covenant with him and no better of than any gentile without Yeshua. He is the high priest and replaced the temple sacrifices of ancient Israel which were symbolic of him. Second temple was destroyed in 70 AD, his crucifixion was in 32 AD and at that time you will also find rabbinic writings showing something that should have turned red as sign the sacrifice was accepted didn't. Here are some more prophesies Jesus / Yeshua fullfilled: [link to www1.cbn.com (secure)] Israel trough the Messiah Jesus/Yeshua is a light to the nations today in millions of churches worldwide. Abrahams seed has been a blessing to the nations (Genesis 22:18) and salvation has indeed reached the ends of the world (Isaiah 49) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78139240 Norway 11/04/2019 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! Oh right. I picture a speech bubble over Israelnnow with the text: "what? Not in covenant with God you say???" Right. In Jeremiah 31:31-34 it talks about a new covenant and that we all will know him. Know who? In isaiah 7:14 rabbis insist "alma" means young woman since thats modetn hebrew, but elsewhere in the bible it means virgin, and thats curiosly also what the septuagint and the syriac says. Oh btw, im the same norwegian writing all these posts. God wants worshippers in spirit and in TRUTH, i hope you verify everything i say because septuagint, the syriac, dead sea scrolls etc is available a click away. Research Isaiah 7:14 and Psalm 22:16 if you think theres even a small possibility you have been led astray. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77912626 Norway 11/04/2019 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! Isaiah 7:14 again.. "God with us" or God dwell among us, is the prophesy, like in Jeremiah 1, where you see the prophet talk with the WORD of God, which has hands etc. In Targum you see the rabbis interpited Genesis to mean its the WORD of God is who walks with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. In John 1 we see who the Word is, the visible image of the invisible God, Yeshua which means YHWH saves. So no, the messiah of Israel wont be some hateful redneck that will put those darn naggers.. Sorry.. I mean GENTILES in their place, and make sure you will have 800 slaves each. If you seriously believe that, you don't know God. And thats exactly why ancient Israel was rejected, except for the true worshippers of God which followed Yeshua. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48226546 United States 11/04/2019 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! More Pharisee lies, yawn. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47917221 Face it, you are the Synagogue of Satan, children of the Father of Lies, so everything you say is automatically either a lie or the truth twisted so much it is no better than a lie. The Rabbi used only scriptures, no Rabbinic homilies no Talmud no Oral Torah... Just scriptures. Can you do the same to prove your position on Isaiah 53? (I'll be representing the Rabbi since I know the topic very well.) He's using the wrong scripture. The Masoretic recension is Pharisee propaganda. Doctored and diddled with for several centuries to make it less Christophilic. You, and your fellow heretics, fail. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77345463 United States 11/04/2019 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! More Pharisee lies, yawn. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47917221 Face it, you are the Synagogue of Satan, children of the Father of Lies, so everything you say is automatically either a lie or the truth twisted so much it is no better than a lie. The Rabbi used only scriptures, no Rabbinic homilies no Talmud no Oral Torah... Just scriptures. Can you do the same to prove your position on Isaiah 53? (I'll be representing the Rabbi since I know the topic very well.) He was using deception and intentionally lying. He correctly described how the 12 tribes split apart and became two kingdoms. The southern kingdom (two tribes) of Judah and the northern kingdom of Israel 10 lost tribes). But then he begins his deception. He says the 10 lost tribes of Israel will come back and rejoin the 2 tribes of Judah. This is also true. The problem is that the 2 tribes of the southern kingdom are the only chosen people of G-d in the kingdom. He says the 10 northern lost tribes are also Jooes. That is a lie. The state of Texas used to belong to Mexico. Call a Texan a mexican and see where it gets you. The big deception is trying to convince people that all 12 tribes are Jooes. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48226546 United States 11/04/2019 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! More Pharisee lies, yawn. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47917221 Face it, you are the Synagogue of Satan, children of the Father of Lies, so everything you say is automatically either a lie or the truth twisted so much it is no better than a lie. Can you refute the arguments of the "lying" pharisee? Or can you just avoid the issue and leave skid marks? You have no arguments to refute, because you are using a counterfeit Bible. The Masoretic is Pharisee lies, the truth us found in the Septuagint. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77912626 Norway 11/04/2019 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! You have no arguments to refute, because you are using a counterfeit Bible. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48226546 The Masoretic is Pharisee lies, the truth us found in the Septuagint. The masoretic text is very accurate but they are relatively new compared to the septuagint and the syriac and the dead sea scrolls. The few places the masoretic text disagree with the dead sea scrolls, the septuagint and the syriac backs up the dead sea scrolls and from what ibe seen lines up perfectly with christian bibles. The 400 years old King James bible use the masoretic text but from what ive seen got everything right and it also fits with ancient writings of the church fathers, which you can see here: www.kjvtoday.com. It took no shortcuts unlike modern bibles that assumes error some places when there is none if you interpit it right. If you're picky thats the bible id choose. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77912626 Norway 11/04/2019 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! Heres the way to view the septuagint : God gave us one CO-WITHNESS to the rabbinic text in greek, and one CO-WITHNESS to the rabbinic texts in arameic. That plus the dead sea scrolls and the writings of the church fathers makes the text of the bible bomb proof. For exampl, you cant change meaning of words and argue "alma" just mean "young woman" like rabbis try when 2 side withnesses + other places in the bible says it means VIRGIN. Trust your bible. King James is excellent and i hold it as the gold standard of english bibles as it has been for 400 years. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77547800 United States 11/04/2019 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! The Torah warned against false prophets who would lead his people astray, and say they came in his name and on his behalf, when clearly he himself is supposed to come nack, there is no other intercessor, clearly so since Jesus blatantly failed.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77547800 United States 11/04/2019 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! 33 “‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: On the day I cleanse you from all your sins, I will resettle your towns, and the ruins will be rebuilt. 34 The desolate land will be cultivated instead of lying desolate in the sight of all who pass through it....... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78136852 Ireland 11/04/2019 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! The Christians worship a dead man, an idol as God. Committing the oldest and most serious sin in the book. Idolatry and blasphemy. The end. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78136852 You don't believe in the bible so we don't care about your definition of "blasphemy". Only followers of God are in position to define that. Israel today are a creation of God and the motherof our faith and Messiah with promises of him (which is why we support Israel) but not in covenant with him and no better of than any gentile without Yeshua. He is the high priest and replaced the temple sacrifices of ancient Israel which were symbolic of him. Second temple was destroyed in 70 AD, his crucifixion was in 32 AD and at that time you will also find rabbinic writings showing something that should have turned red as sign the sacrifice was accepted didn't. Here are some more prophesies Jesus / Yeshua fullfilled: [link to www1.cbn.com (secure)] Israel trough the Messiah Jesus/Yeshua is a light to the nations today in millions of churches worldwide. Abrahams seed has been a blessing to the nations (Genesis 22:18) and salvation has indeed reached the ends of the world (Isaiah 49) Dont fucking try and tell me what i believe you cheeky cunt. Everything i said is a fact. Now go worship your man idol you fool. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77912626 Norway 11/04/2019 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! The Christians worship a dead man, an idol as God. Committing the oldest and most serious sin in the book. Idolatry and blasphemy. The end. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78136852 You don't believe in the bible so we don't care about your definition of "blasphemy". Only followers of God are in position to define that. Israel today are a creation of God and the motherof our faith and Messiah with promises of him (which is why we support Israel) but not in covenant with him and no better of than any gentile without Yeshua. He is the high priest and replaced the temple sacrifices of ancient Israel which were symbolic of him. Second temple was destroyed in 70 AD, his crucifixion was in 32 AD and at that time you will also find rabbinic writings showing something that should have turned red as sign the sacrifice was accepted didn't. Here are some more prophesies Jesus / Yeshua fullfilled: [link to www1.cbn.com (secure)] Israel trough the Messiah Jesus/Yeshua is a light to the nations today in millions of churches worldwide. Abrahams seed has been a blessing to the nations (Genesis 22:18) and salvation has indeed reached the ends of the world (Isaiah 49) Dont fucking try and tell me what i believe you cheeky cunt. Everything i said is a fact. Now go worship your man idol you fool. Since your here i bet its some talmudic sect. If you don't have Jesus you have nothing. Ill tell you whatever i want, your opinions don't matter, and you just show how evil you are and why Gods judgement over you is just. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77912626 Norway 11/04/2019 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! The Torah warned against false prophets who would lead his people astray, and say they came in his name and on his behalf, when clearly he himself is supposed to come nack, there is no other intercessor, clearly so since Jesus blatantly failed.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77547800 How did Jesus fail when hes prophesied all over the bible and fullfilled everything to the smallest detail? We're waiting for his return, the end of this age, thats when ALL evil will be judged unless you have refuge in the the Messiah, Jesus / Yeshua. That include YOU, ME and everyone else here because the wages of sin lead is death. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77912626 Norway 11/04/2019 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: OMG A Rabbi explains Isaiah 53 in a way never seen before! Must watch if you want to understand the Bible! Lets pretend there's life after this, will you fight wars in heaven? How miserable it would be if a yes to Jesus isn't also a yes to a new nature where our hate, bitterness, envy etc is removed. Gods kingdom is here now, miracles do happen and I've witnessed it. Romans 10:9 tells you how to get saved. |