LMFAO!!! TRUMP demands 0% or NEGATIVE INTEREST RATES!!! | |
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@Ohwell
User ID: 77979960 United Kingdom 09/11/2019 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Boneheads = Slang for Skull and Bones.on the Anniverssary of 911! Opportunity = Quoting George Bush Senior ajout NWO. George Bush Senior mentions about an opportunity for a New World Order. Even though Trump Tweet makes you think it is all about the FED, he mentions two things in his Tweet this morning on the infamous 9/11 date. [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)] 1. Opportunity, just like Bush Senior opportunity for a New World Order 2. Boneheads. Another word for Bonehead is Numbskull. Basically a stupid person. A more appropriate word for Bonehead Or Slang would in fact be Skull and Bones. Is Bush a Skull and Bones member? You bet. Last Edited by @Ohwell on 09/11/2019 12:06 PM |
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vEyeSea
User ID: 77919261 United States 09/11/2019 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly, the rest of the world is devalueing their currency, only the US is raising rates. I think the rest of the world is doing a massive carry trade. Borrowing their currency for pennies to buy US bonds and stocks then making money by doing nothing (arbitrage). To learn who rules over you, find out who you are not allowed to criticize. When the government is wrong, it's dangerous to be right. The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant. -Robspierre |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13187404 United States 09/11/2019 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, Trump made a LOT of money and is a brilliant business man. I want to learn more before passing judgement. Because he may be on to something. We all want the federal reserve demolished but then criticize this tweet? That is ridiculous he’s not brilliant, that’s the thing he bluffs, files bankruptcies, refuses to pay until they settle for less and screws people if everyone did this “brilliant” strategy the system would collapse now the stress of this job is bringing on senility watch him go full retard more and more frequently, probably in time to lose in 2020 Just like the US does and every major corporation on the earth. stop being stupid and learn something. The US has mot paid a single debt since 1933 domestically and not since 1977 internationally. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75828641 United States 09/11/2019 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly, the rest of the world is devalueing their currency, only the US is raising rates. I think the rest of the world is doing a massive carry trade. Borrowing their currency for pennies to buy US bonds and stocks then making money by doing nothing (arbitrage). Its not bad. Housing will skyrocket like crazy now. You will see prices you will never expect. Trillion dollar houses. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13187404 United States 09/11/2019 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would cost you money to have savings...banks would charge interest instead of paying you... Are you that dense? Interest rates don't pertain in this context to your savings account. They pertain to how much interest you pay on a loan. brief is the village idiot who thinks he is a financial wizard. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75716984 United States 09/11/2019 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PAYING someone to borrow money is INSANE. How much would you borrow if you were being PAID to borrow it? I know how much i'd ask for - INFINITE. Of course YOU don't get the negative interest rate - but the banks do.... and all they'll do is get paid to borrow, hoard the loan amount (ie it NEVER enters the economy so in the form of small business loans), and simply replay that risk free money and pocket the negative interest they're being paid as risk free profit. Why loan money at a risk when you can earn infinite amounts risk free? It's a MASSIVE wealth transfer from the savers, pension funds and mutual funds (who are paying the neg rates on their savings) straight to the banks. For example - in my EUR account, anything over 100k i now have to PAY 1% annually. But most importantly it totally fucks up price discovery and pricing information - something that always will destroy a free market system. Oh, and Krugman LOVES neg rates. Buy gold. Buy silver. out. Hear this? People should calling whoever they can to make sure this doesn't happen. Remember when Bush wanted the guest workers program and the voting base bombarded him with calls and he backed off? Same needs to happen here with Trump. He's making a colossal mistake. |
yukon cornelius User ID: 77394259 United States 09/11/2019 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | tRump is trying to kill you. dont believe me, read it here [link to market-ticker.org (secure)] maff is hard so i dont really expect most on glp to grasp the implications |
SyncAsFunk
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13187404 United States 09/11/2019 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly, the rest of the world is devalueing their currency, only the US is raising rates. I think the rest of the world is doing a massive carry trade. Borrowing their currency for pennies to buy US bonds and stocks then making money by doing nothing (arbitrage). Its not bad. Housing will skyrocket like crazy now. You will see prices you will never expect. Trillion dollar houses. So what? It is not money anyway, just a double negative balance sheet that can never be brought to zero, its a scam from the top down. Do you really believe the FED lends money to the US? Ignorant to the modern debt scam of fiat currency? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77394259 United States 09/11/2019 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PAYING someone to borrow money is INSANE. How much would you borrow if you were being PAID to borrow it? I know how much i'd ask for - INFINITE. Of course YOU don't get the negative interest rate - but the banks do.... and all they'll do is get paid to borrow, hoard the loan amount (ie it NEVER enters the economy so in the form of small business loans), and simply replay that risk free money and pocket the negative interest they're being paid as risk free profit. Why loan money at a risk when you can earn infinite amounts risk free? It's a MASSIVE wealth transfer from the savers, pension funds and mutual funds (who are paying the neg rates on their savings) straight to the banks. For example - in my EUR account, anything over 100k i now have to PAY 1% annually. But most importantly it totally fucks up price discovery and pricing information - something that always will destroy a free market system. Oh, and Krugman LOVES neg rates. Buy gold. Buy silver. out. This is the best response in 10 pages of nonsense. It is poison for 99.9% of us. |
Festus Hoggbottom
User ID: 77958874 United States 09/11/2019 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would cost you money to have savings...banks would charge interest instead of paying you... Yes, but that's altogether different. He's talking about Federal Funds Rates. They cut .25% a while back and they're expected to cut another .25% this month. He wants it brought to 0 (or negative even) to refinance our national debt. These are not our rates. These are the rates the banks to each other, especially the Fed Reserve bank. I did it. I did it on purpose. And I'll do it again. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76170368 United States 09/11/2019 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't claim to be an economist but it seems to me that by reducing the intrest rates - is the same as getting rid of the Fed ... they won't be making any money and perhaps paying YOU for using their SERVICE Quoting: Shadow Dance If it hurts them, why are they hesitant to raise it- whatever they do must be beneficial to them as they seem the opposite of altruistic and aren't even "federal". |
Festus Hoggbottom
User ID: 77958874 United States 09/11/2019 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would cost you money to have savings...banks would charge interest instead of paying you... No, it means that the banks would have to pay back less money than the full amount they borrow from the fed. Wouldnt that mean higher taxes? No. It means less debt which means lower taxes over time. I did it. I did it on purpose. And I'll do it again. |
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Sungaze_At_Dawn
User ID: 77427246 Canada 09/11/2019 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There shouldn't interest at all. There should only be national banks that are run by the feds that give rent to own loans to all people so everyone can pay for their own homes instead of renting others. Necessities: food, shelter, utilities, health care and dental. These should be interest free. The rest who cares, they're extra's. The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75716984 United States 09/11/2019 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Low or no interest rates means your economy is tanking.. Back when the interests rates were high, it was because more people were employed, more were borrowing money for houses because you could drop out of highschool and get into a decent job/career back then.. Now days, not so much.. So you love bankers and want them to steal your money? Low interest rates stimulate growth. It's always been that way. I find it incredible how many GLPers who on one hand hate bankers, blame them for wars and all the ills of the world, yet at the same time think that Trump is crazy for telling the Fed Reserve to drop it's rate to 0% There seems to be a lot of schizoids here. I don't want anything that will cause hyperinflation. That is bad for everyone. Trillion dollar houses are a problem even if you outright own it because the fucking property taxes are based on the value. |
TIO JUAN
User ID: 77974299 Mexico 09/11/2019 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would cost you money to have savings...banks would charge interest instead of paying you... No, it means that the banks would have to pay back less money than the full amount they borrow from the fed. It means both and much more : -Banks would have to pay back less money than the full amount they borrow from the fed. -It would cost you money to have savings...banks would charge interest instead of paying you... -You will pay 20% for your credit card as usual and little less for your mortgage payments. -Banks and corporations will get cheap money to play the stock market, creating new bubbles and getting big bonus. UNCLE JOHN |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72530568 Canada 09/11/2019 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Low or no interest rates means your economy is tanking.. Back when the interests rates were high, it was because more people were employed, more were borrowing money for houses because you could drop out of highschool and get into a decent job/career back then.. Now days, not so much.. So you love bankers and want them to steal your money? Low interest rates stimulate growth. It's always been that way. I find it incredible how many GLPers who on one hand hate bankers, blame them for wars and all the ills of the world, yet at the same time think that Trump is crazy for telling the Fed Reserve to drop it's rate to 0% There seems to be a lot of schizoids here. I don't want anything that will cause hyperinflation. That is bad for everyone. Trillion dollar houses are a problem even if you outright own it because the fucking property taxes are based on the value. Bankruptcy causes hyper inflation. Reducing the national debt strengthens the currency preventing hyper inflation. So if the lending rate is reduced to 0 how does that cause hyper inflation? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76170368 United States 09/11/2019 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There shouldn't interest at all. There should only be national banks that are run by the feds that give rent to own loans to all people so everyone can pay for their own homes instead of renting others. Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn Necessities: food, shelter, utilities, health care and dental. These should be interest free. The rest who cares, they're extra's. Yes. |
Festus Hoggbottom
User ID: 77958874 United States 09/11/2019 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76195662 Low or no interest rates means your economy is tanking.. Back when the interests rates were high, it was because more people were employed, more were borrowing money for houses because you could drop out of highschool and get into a decent job/career back then.. Now days, not so much.. So you love bankers and want them to steal your money? Low interest rates stimulate growth. It's always been that way. I find it incredible how many GLPers who on one hand hate bankers, blame them for wars and all the ills of the world, yet at the same time think that Trump is crazy for telling the Fed Reserve to drop it's rate to 0% There seems to be a lot of schizoids here. I don't want anything that will cause hyperinflation. That is bad for everyone. Trillion dollar houses are a problem even if you outright own it because the fucking property taxes are based on the value. Bankruptcy causes hyper inflation. Reducing the national debt strengthens the currency preventing hyper inflation. So if the lending rate is reduced to 0 how does that cause hyper inflation? It actually weakens the currency (which is good for manufacturing/exports) and increases inflation some. A little inflation is necessary. We're at or around 0 right now. That's why we can afford to do this. Just about everything Trump says or Tweets regarding the Fed is designed to promote a weaker dollar. I know it sounds counterintuitive, but a weaker dollar is good for the economy the same way that a small inflation rate is good. Just not too weak. I did it. I did it on purpose. And I'll do it again. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75716984 United States 09/11/2019 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76195662 Low or no interest rates means your economy is tanking.. Back when the interests rates were high, it was because more people were employed, more were borrowing money for houses because you could drop out of highschool and get into a decent job/career back then.. Now days, not so much.. So you love bankers and want them to steal your money? Low interest rates stimulate growth. It's always been that way. I find it incredible how many GLPers who on one hand hate bankers, blame them for wars and all the ills of the world, yet at the same time think that Trump is crazy for telling the Fed Reserve to drop it's rate to 0% There seems to be a lot of schizoids here. I don't want anything that will cause hyperinflation. That is bad for everyone. Trillion dollar houses are a problem even if you outright own it because the fucking property taxes are based on the value. Bankruptcy causes hyper inflation. Reducing the national debt strengthens the currency preventing hyper inflation. So if the lending rate is reduced to 0 how does that cause hyper inflation? I'm reading a lot of scary shit in all different directions right here in this very thread. The thing is every argument, even yours and other pro ones makes sense. Now what will really happen when the rubber hits the road is the cause of anxiety for the average person as there's no turning back. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76170368 United States 09/11/2019 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568 So you love bankers and want them to steal your money? Low interest rates stimulate growth. It's always been that way. I find it incredible how many GLPers who on one hand hate bankers, blame them for wars and all the ills of the world, yet at the same time think that Trump is crazy for telling the Fed Reserve to drop it's rate to 0% There seems to be a lot of schizoids here. I don't want anything that will cause hyperinflation. That is bad for everyone. Trillion dollar houses are a problem even if you outright own it because the fucking property taxes are based on the value. Bankruptcy causes hyper inflation. Reducing the national debt strengthens the currency preventing hyper inflation. So if the lending rate is reduced to 0 how does that cause hyper inflation? It actually weakens the currency (which is good for manufacturing/exports) and increases inflation some. A little inflation is necessary. We're at or around 0 right now. That's why we can afford to do this. Just about everything Trump says or Tweets regarding the Fed is designed to promote a weaker dollar. I know it sounds counterintuitive, but a weaker dollar is good for the economy the same way that a small inflation rate is good. Just not too weak. Doesn't that make the cost of living here higher as well- it's so high now. Medical care, dental, rent, housing costs and food seem to go up monthly- not stagnant. |
DEPLORABLE Lady Jayne Smith
Forum Administrator 09/11/2019 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He may be looking to inflate our way out from the national debt. It is the only way short of extreme austerity. Massive national debt, not unlike massive personal debt, can only be gotten out from under, with great pain. Should never have let the debt snowball as it has in the first place. Never spend $$ that are not there. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77991547 Mexico 09/11/2019 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In economics, hyperinflation is very high and typically accelerating inflation. It quickly erodes the real value of the local currency, as the prices of all goods increase. This causes people to minimize their holdings in that currency as they usually switch to more stable foreign currencies, i.e. the US Dollar will be dumped into the toilet by the world as it is currently the world wide fiat currency. |