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It currently has only a temporary designation of gb00234 and is still on the possible comet confirmation page of the minor planet center, so it hasn't been given an official designation yet.
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Once it receives that designation it will be removed from the above page. The current coordinates put it very low on the eastern horizon at morning twilight here in Florida, making it challenging for me to be able to observe it. I have trees to my east that would block my view.

I may drive out to a remote location tomorrow morning if the weather is good and try to get a look at it with my scope. It's magnitude 18, orders of magnitude too dim to see by naked eye or even most amateur telescopes. It requires very long exposures with a sensitive CCD camera to detect it. Chances are I won't be able to live stream it due to poor cell phone reception at the remote location.

It may also not actually be in a hyperbolic orbit. With only a couple weeks worth of observations we have only seen this object over a very short arc of its orbit, so many possible orbits still fit the data reasonably well. One such possibility is that it's a normal, roughly parabolic orbit (eccentricity close to 1) but non-gravitational acceleration from outgassing is very strong for this comet and pushing it around more than most comets. If that's the case it means it originated in our solar system and strong jets of material from being heated by the sun are creating higher residuals when calculating the trajectory based on a purely gravitational orbit, making the trajectory look unusual. Bill Gray is an expert in orbit determination and here is his take:
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Only time will tell whether this is truly another interstellar object or not, but if it is the fact it's of similar brightness and size to other normal comets would seem extremely rare, raising the question of why this one showed up so soon after Oumuamua. Even though lots of observers are watching this object, time itself is a critical factor in refining orbit determinations.


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Jeez how many interstellar bodies have we discovered lately? Is this thing in our solar system yet? [Sorry if that's a dumb question).

I remember only awhile back the oblong thing that was tumbling thru our area.. first interplanetary thing discovered. So wow, theyre finding more?
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Cool stuff. Thanks Astro, keeping an eye on this thread.
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The name they choose for this one should be very interesting.
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Jeez how many interstellar bodies have we discovered lately? Is this thing in our solar system yet? [Sorry if that's a dumb question).

I remember only awhile back the oblong thing that was tumbling thru our area.. first interplanetary thing discovered. So wow, theyre finding more?
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This is only the second, but coming so soon after the first seems unusual if this does pan out to be interstellar. Yes, it's in our solar system and will make its closest approach to the sun in December or January.

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Thx for this post, sir! When Oumuamua appeared on the scene, it just fascinated me and made me wonder what else would pop into our system later.

If object is projected to be its closest this winter, ought to be interesting to see if us amateurs will be able to catch a glimpse.
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Jeez how many interstellar bodies have we discovered lately? Is this thing in our solar system yet? [Sorry if that's a dumb question).

I remember only awhile back the oblong thing that was tumbling thru our area.. first interplanetary thing discovered. So wow, theyre finding more?
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This is only the second, but coming so soon after the first seems unusual if this does pan out to be interstellar. Yes, it's in our solar system and will make its closest approach to the sun in December or January.
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So there's really no telling at this point the size of it? Large asteroid perhaps?
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Jeez how many interstellar bodies have we discovered lately? Is this thing in our solar system yet? [Sorry if that's a dumb question).

I remember only awhile back the oblong thing that was tumbling thru our area.. first interplanetary thing discovered. So wow, theyre finding more?
 Quoting: Plato2theGrave


This is only the second, but coming so soon after the first seems unusual if this does pan out to be interstellar. Yes, it's in our solar system and will make its closest approach to the sun in December or January.
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So there's really no telling at this point the size of it? Large asteroid perhaps?
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A solar system absolute magnitude H of 13.6 on the above table implies a physical magnitude of about 25 km if it's not significantly outgassing and is very dark (1% reflectivity, darker than fresh asphalt). If it's closer to the moon in reflectivity it implies a size of about 6.5 km.
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Another possible interstellar object... So soon after the first... with what may be extreme outgassing?( or maneuvering ) The possibilities are interesting to say the least. Thanks Mutt, I will be watching developments.

Note I did not say Aliens, or first contact. oh I just did.

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Yep, that's definitely a geese

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Thank you astro
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Outgassing OR propulsion system? Hmmmm, warp speed Scotty!
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Most baffling...
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The first one was a scout ship.

This one is a Destroyer.

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Cool stuff Astro as always! Love your threads and posts.
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Jeez how many interstellar bodies have we discovered lately? Is this thing in our solar system yet? [Sorry if that's a dumb question).

I remember only awhile back the oblong thing that was tumbling thru our area.. first interplanetary thing discovered. So wow, theyre finding more?
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always good Astromut. surprised no doomtards have pitched in on this...
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Always interesting, thanks.
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because NASA tardation...
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Yeah, most people probably don't care to listen to a NASA shill like me, but it's all good. The smart ones get it.
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Probes..

My guess they're testing us. Way out in the Oort cloud to evade what they may think we can detect.


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because NASA tardation...
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Yeah, most people probably don't care to listen to a NASA shill like me, but it's all good. The smart ones get it.
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