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Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths

 
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Wonder if he's going after quarter pounder with cheese next.
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the people who are getting sick are buying bootleg crap with THC oil supposedly

no one is dying because they bought pods from a store

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WRONG.

The Mysterious Death of a Vape User Has Massive Stakes for Oregon’s Cannabis Consumers

Oregon’s case stands out for one reason: The victim bought products from two licensed cannabis dispensaries before dying.

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What does that have to do with JUUL compatible pods?

Nothing.
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Did you read the article in the first post? Its not just about Pods, its about ALL flavored Vape products.
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THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MARIJUANA!!!!!!

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH VAPE JUICES!!!!


THIS BAN IS FOR JUUL AND BLU PRODUCTS!!!!!


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Wonder if he's going after quarter pounder with cheese next.
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I think he should go after Kombucha, hard selzer, anything labeled as "umami" and all the other things that the soyboys will have a fit over.

we can start with fucking man buns (twat knots)
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Big tobacco not liking the loss of customers n profits so sabotage The Vape liquid?
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Sounds a lot like Communist China.

So let’s ban alcohol, cigarettes, diet soda, twinkies, high sodium foods, etc. also.

You see, first they came for the vape pens, and I said nothing because I didn’t use vape pens...

This is clearly a case of a Marxist style government overstep. This should NOT be allowed.

I essentially stopped posting here because of the sheer stupidity of the Trump cult, and honestly I’m not sure some days who scares me more: the Trumpite Cultists or the degenerate communist left. In some ways they look a lot alike.


Sincerely, a True Conservative Who Told You So,

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GenX chick here, I wholeheartedly agree!
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Sounds a lot like Communist China.

So let’s ban alcohol, cigarettes, diet soda, twinkies, high sodium foods, etc. also.

You see, first they came for the vape pens, and I said nothing because I didn’t use vape pens...

This is clearly a case of a Marxist style government overstep. This should NOT be allowed.

I essentially stopped posting here because of the sheer stupidity of the Trump cult, and honestly I’m not sure some days who scares me more: the Trumpite Cultists or the degenerate communist left. In some ways they look a lot alike.


Sincerely, a True Conservative Who Told You So,

GenX Dude
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GenX chick here, I wholeheartedly agree!
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They better leave the Twinkies alone. We already dodged one catastrophe.
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Trump cultists now defending banning things?

so much for Freedom
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Not really, I just love how it's pissing off the little soyboy democraps.

Don't think I ever met a republican who vaped.
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I have. My boss who is a huge Republican quit smoking by vaping. Guess what asshat? He had high blood pressure and health issues and now his blood pressure is normal. Thanks to vaping and quitting smoking. My 72 year old mother in law did the same and she is as far from libtard as you can get.
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Not my kombucha. Knives out!
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Sounds a lot like Communist China.

So let’s ban alcohol, cigarettes, diet soda, twinkies, high sodium foods, etc. also.

You see, first they came for the vape pens, and I said nothing because I didn’t use vape pens...

This is clearly a case of a Marxist style government overstep. This should NOT be allowed.

I essentially stopped posting here because of the sheer stupidity of the Trump cult, and honestly I’m not sure some days who scares me more: the Trumpite Cultists or the degenerate communist left. In some ways they look a lot alike.


Sincerely, a True Conservative Who Told You So,

GenX Dude
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A 6th person has died from a vaping-related lung illness, this time in Kansas

Doug Stanglin, USA TODAYPublished 8:25 a.m. ET Sept. 11, 2019 | Updated 3:04 p.m. ET Sept. 11, 2019

A 50-year-old Kansan became the sixth person in the USA to die of a vaping-related lung illness, an outbreak that has ramped up health concerns nationwide and prompted President Donald Trump to call for a ban on thousands of e-cigarette flavors Wednesday.

Five previous vaping-related deaths were confirmed in California, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota and Oregon. After the Kansas fatality, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention tallied six deaths and more than 450 possible cases of severe lung injury in 33 states and one jurisdiction.

Trump held a policy discussion on vaping Wednesday and said afterward that he will seek to ban the sale of non-tobacco-flavored products in an effort to get young people to give up e-cigarettes.
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All anyone really needs to know is if Sophie Turner is okay.
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Not my kombucha. Knives out!
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That's a facial, right?
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Sounds a lot like Communist China.

So let’s ban alcohol, cigarettes, diet soda, twinkies, high sodium foods, etc. also.

You see, first they came for the vape pens, and I said nothing because I didn’t use vape pens...

This is clearly a case of a Marxist style government overstep. This should NOT be allowed.

I essentially stopped posting here because of the sheer stupidity of the Trump cult, and honestly I’m not sure some days who scares me more: the Trumpite Cultists or the degenerate communist left. In some ways they look a lot alike.


Sincerely, a True Conservative Who Told You So,

GenX Dude
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[link to www.usatoday.com (secure)]

A 6th person has died from a vaping-related lung illness, this time in Kansas

Doug Stanglin, USA TODAYPublished 8:25 a.m. ET Sept. 11, 2019 | Updated 3:04 p.m. ET Sept. 11, 2019

A 50-year-old Kansan became the sixth person in the USA to die of a vaping-related lung illness, an outbreak that has ramped up health concerns nationwide and prompted President Donald Trump to call for a ban on thousands of e-cigarette flavors Wednesday.

Five previous vaping-related deaths were confirmed in California, Illinois, Indiana, Minnesota and Oregon. After the Kansas fatality, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention tallied six deaths and more than 450 possible cases of severe lung injury in 33 states and one jurisdiction.

Trump held a policy discussion on vaping Wednesday and said afterward that he will seek to ban the sale of non-tobacco-flavored products in an effort to get young people to give up e-cigarettes.
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And? If Trump actually gave a shit he would ban regular cigarettes. But he won't, since this whole thing is a ploy orchestrated by the tobacco industry.
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I'll stick to zig zags.
I lost my apathy.
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Are e cigs and liquids made in China?
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Trump cultists now defending banning things?

so much for Freedom
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Not really, I just love how it's pissing off the little soyboy democraps.

Don't think I ever met a republican who vaped.
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this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard
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My question is: why is this only happening in US.
Currently zero cases in Europe... (and lets hope it stays that way)

What baffles me is that no brands, type of liquids, zero information is mentioned in any news outlet. I mean: 450 cases, there must be somewhere a common ground in the type of liquid they were using, the brand, etc... I refuse to believe that no info at all is available.
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Trump cultists now defending banning things?

so much for Freedom
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Not really, I just love how it's pissing off the little soyboy democraps.

Don't think I ever met a republican who vaped.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75856653


I have. My boss who is a huge Republican quit smoking by vaping. Guess what asshat? He had high blood pressure and health issues and now his blood pressure is normal. Thanks to vaping and quitting smoking. My 72 year old mother in law did the same and she is as far from libtard as you can get.
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Guess what? A few stupid vape juice manufacturers kill people and severely fuck up 450 more, and the entire vape juice industry suffers.

If they can trace back to the manufacturers, what will they, say, "Hey man, I didn't know. I'm just mixing what taste good and sells. I didn't like, you know, test it to see if it was safe."
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Nicotine is a drug. Christians don't use drugs. Trump's being guided by God here.
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Trump cultists now defending banning things?

so much for Freedom
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Not really, I just love how it's pissing off the little soyboy democraps.

Don't think I ever met a republican who vaped.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75856653


I have. My boss who is a huge Republican quit smoking by vaping. Guess what asshat? He had high blood pressure and health issues and now his blood pressure is normal. Thanks to vaping and quitting smoking. My 72 year old mother in law did the same and she is as far from libtard as you can get.
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weak ass... that simple.

There are millions of people who've quit cold turkey.

I Guess we can establish that they're weaker than every single one of them for starters.

Soy.. nothing but soy
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You know who else banned flavored tobacco products? OBAMA
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Vaping 911

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been vaping since 2013 and have no problems.
I dont buy junk from 7/11 or gas stations though and now make my own juice.
The news reports are bullshit because they had underlying health conditions and they couldn't link it to ecigs at all.
They died and had an ecig in the house... so fucking what

lolcnn2
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The Kansas resident was over 50 and had a history of underlying health issues, state health officials said in a news release


The Kansas death is at least the fourth reported in a middle aged or older person. Minnesota and Los Angeles county officials also reported deaths in older persons last week.

The Minnesota patient was over 65 years old and died in August after a long and complicated hospitalization. Minnesota officials said the patient had a history of underlying lung disease

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these retards were probably vaping fentanyl.
These idiots are playing you for FOOLS.

Fucking lung disease already


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Wow! Thank you
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Seems so easy to take away something everyone legally enjoys, because a few bad apples. Cigarettes kill 30,000 people a year. But we are not banning that are we...?
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been vaping since 2013 and have no problems.
I dont buy junk from 7/11 or gas stations though and now make my own juice.
The news reports are bullshit because they had underlying health conditions and they couldn't link it to ecigs at all.
They died and had an ecig in the house... so fucking what

lolcnn2
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The Kansas resident was over 50 and had a history of underlying health issues, state health officials said in a news release


The Kansas death is at least the fourth reported in a middle aged or older person. Minnesota and Los Angeles county officials also reported deaths in older persons last week.

The Minnesota patient was over 65 years old and died in August after a long and complicated hospitalization. Minnesota officials said the patient had a history of underlying lung disease

[link to www.sciencealert.com (secure)]

these retards were probably vaping fentanyl.
These idiots are playing you for FOOLS.

Fucking lung disease already


bsflagbsflag
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Wow! Thank you
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^has a brian

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Seems so easy to take away something everyone legally enjoys, because a few bad apples. Cigarettes kill 30,000 people a year. But we are not banning that are we...?
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Nor guns.
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Who here is surprised vaping is actually just as stupid, or even more stupid, than smoking?
Let the facts fall wherever, whenever, and however they may.

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Flavored vape fluid is not THC fluid.

We've had threads about this over the past week.

Is this a nicotine or a THC issue?

Is this the salt base oils or the glycerine?

Accurate information would be helpful. Reading this article makes it pretty clear that it's not THC but rather nicotine products. And they keep going on about E-cigs when in fact they're talking about bottled fluid. Or is it just the "pods?"


Which leads me to the questions:

How is withdrawing the flavors going to stop people from getting sick?

Are they saying the straight tobacco flavor (which I use) isn't a problem?

What is causing the illnesses?

Are people spiking the fluids?

This smacks a little too much like the Kratom bans for me to be comfortable, bad science, bad opinions, bad information.

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And green from Bad Pattern. ;)
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Sounds a lot like Communist China.

So let’s ban alcohol, cigarettes, diet soda, twinkies, high sodium foods, etc. also.

You see, first they came for the vape pens, and I said nothing because I didn’t use vape pens...

This is clearly a case of a Marxist style government overstep. This should NOT be allowed.

I essentially stopped posting here because of the sheer stupidity of the Trump cult, and honestly I’m not sure some days who scares me more: the Trumpite Cultists or the degenerate communist left. In some ways they look a lot alike.


Sincerely, a True Conservative Who Told You So,

GenX Dude
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GenX chick here, I wholeheartedly agree!
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hf

Thank you. Unfortunately, our generation is going to have to clean up this mess - that is, if it can be done at all. I’m starting to seriously want to Balkanize and split off into a legal conservative nation of our own. No leftists or Trumpites allowed - lol
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been vaping since 2013 and have no problems.
I dont buy junk from 7/11 or gas stations though and now make my own juice.
The news reports are bullshit because they had underlying health conditions and they couldn't link it to ecigs at all.
They died and had an ecig in the house... so fucking what

lolcnn2
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The Kansas resident was over 50 and had a history of underlying health issues, state health officials said in a news release


The Kansas death is at least the fourth reported in a middle aged or older person. Minnesota and Los Angeles county officials also reported deaths in older persons last week.

The Minnesota patient was over 65 years old and died in August after a long and complicated hospitalization. Minnesota officials said the patient had a history of underlying lung disease

[link to www.sciencealert.com (secure)]

these retards were probably vaping fentanyl.
These idiots are playing you for FOOLS.

Fucking lung disease already


bsflagbsflag
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Wow! Thank you
 Quoting: Bad Pattern


NOW it starts to make sense. Thank you to the media for scaring my kids (as I do vape myself). Both of my kids have been begging me to stop as they didn't want me to die. F* bastards. Media again prefers publishing clickbait articles that sell instead of telling what is really going on.





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