Kratom Vs. Opium Lettuce for pain relief?

No they arent full of crap? People are different and wild lettuce is for babies?

Kratom is not that expensive, just stay away from head shops and buy from a kratom vendor. We sell $30 1/4 kilos. 250g is quite a few 3 or 4g doses.

That is robbery. Ours are $70 shipped, mystic islands are $70 shipped and herbal rva is $78 shipped.

USD 170/kg is what I pay in Brazil, taxes are super expensive here.

You fkd your life up. Nobody cares. Not everybody is born to fk up

Wow! What does shipping cost? I will sell you 3 for that and i get mine off the plane from jakarta!

skip the BS plant some poppy seeds in a few pots then harvest the resins after it blooms. I did this myself, stuff is incredible. Raw opium straight from the plant no BS. Roll it up in a joint. My God. You want natural pain relief there it is. Although it does come with stigmatic views so Im not sure where YOUR line in the sand is...


If you go against that, then I say Kratom. That's as close as it gets to opium effects.

I agree opium is better but why do you say Kratom will fuck your life up? I think if you do too much of anything, anything can fuck your life up. Curious as to why you said that... I feel kratom can save lives if used properly. I personally got off suboxone with it. The WD from subs was like OVER 2 weeks. Pure hell. Kratom lightened the load. I would much rather get off kratom....


Now I will say this though. Kratom made me have weird side effects. My eyes went to shit, I could barely see outside in the daytime when I had to take large doses. Literally blinded by the light. Never had this happen my entire life of messing with substances. Then my blood pressure would rise, my face would feel filled up with blood and pulsating at times for no reason. Very strange... and I would have moments of pure confusion. Totally lost. But these things weren't daily, and could be effects from my source of kratom im really not sure

pain builds character

embrace it and force your body to overcome it

drugs should only be used for shits and giggles

We dont even bother cutting for latex, we just let the pods dry and put about 15g of pods per person in hot water.
We dont boil them, we add boiling water a bit at a time to keep it hot for 10 minutes. Mash out in a couple coffee filters. Its a bit of a mess, but if you are over 55, you think poppy tea would be pretty good every night. It is like magic. Self destroying, junkie and messed up people mess it all up.

But i never got good pods out of pots and it seems impossible to get em out here at all, but in couple months, we will try again.

Last Edited by Timur2020 on 09/14/2019 12:38 AM

I get that. I just say "don't forget both".
And I'm 56...

This is avery irresponsible pin

I've been using it for fibromyalgia pain and fatigue years...mitra is the bestby far...you get reward points too...he's great, even sent me some free after one orderdidnt work too well for me, although it's not his policy...excellent customer service, order ships the same day...he has regular sales where kilos are just $90...plus huge variety...love it.

I’ve tried both . Opium lettuce waaaaay better.. it must be made at the right time of the year by a strict cooking instruction or it won’t do anything

I’ve tried both . Opium lettuce waaaaay better.. it must be made at the right time of the year by a strict cooking instruction or it won’t do anything
Even Alexander the Great built a temple to opium lettuce ..

I’ve tried both . Opium lettuce waaaaay better.. it must be made at the right time of the year by a strict cooking instruction or it won’t do anything
Even Alexander the Great built a temple to opium lettuce ..

They are almost impossible to grow..I can't ,tried many times

Where did I say it's for everyone including babies?

All I said was, it's not "bunk" as previously stated by the other poster. Are you the expert herbalist in question?

Yellow is more rare around here, but if I'm late getting the grass cut, the blue pops up all around on the hillsides and fields. I saw a 5ft yellow one once, thought it was some kind of giant dandelion. I mowed right over it.

It's hard to cut with just a mower, always leaves a long stalk with leaves close to the ground. So you know it's coming right back before the grass does.

I hate to cook, and I'm too impatient to cook my own extract. The last 12g pack I bought has lasted me almost a year, and I still have most of that.

Saw some guy on youtube smoking the leaves, seems like it would be pretty nasty and harsh too. Coughing is too risky for me.

Has anyone tried this with muscle soreness?

Herbals Schmerbals on etsy is where I get wild lettuce. They offer a lot of other herbs, but I know nothing about those.

Any complaints about their product?

Man I thought it was just me. I planted like 200 seeds, ended up with ONE usable poppy pod. It was so amazing though... I wonder if it would be worth it to grow them indoors and mimic their natural environments more? Or a greeenhouse? I noticed the one I put under a tarp grew the best. The ones I tried to grow just randomly in other spots all died...

Strict cooking? Don't stop there. Great Thread. Everybody gets some pain or endures a helplessness to those they care for with pain. Wild Lettuce (or bone broth) might as well be "weird" to them while they throw Coffeemate in their coffee. A family member...

The red and green Kratom, thanks for all this experience and advice. Psoriasis close friend candidate with somewhat bent back needs it now. Will process the three or so wild lettuce specimens when they come up again - up to 7' tall!

Last Edited by TXGLP2 on 09/14/2019 01:41 AM

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try both, combine~

Opium lettuce is useless ive used a 50x tar extract of opium lettuce and it wasnt even the slightest bit psychoactive. Kratom is proven and works, opium lettuce is cheap because its bunk garbage.

Poppies grow like weeds. I buy a pack of poppie seeds from my supermarket, throw a bunch in my vegie patch and walk away, few months later i got a bunch of pods. Its almost as easy as scoring heroin!

What supermarket sells opium poppies?