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Glad ur alive and well but eating only protein is not good either you should have vegetables and fruit still berries n shit 2
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Thanks! I am eating greens as well. quite a bit, as I am learning how to microgreen, and it is awesome.
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But in your shop you at least have enough outside air to keep you supplied with OXYGEN?
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You're diabetic or having liver disease or fatty liver.
MCT will poison you if you got any of these 2.
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Keto causes mast cell degranulation.

If you have underlying mastocytosis or mast cell activation syndrome/disorder which is possible, the keto diet itself may cause anaphylaxis
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I am not aware having liver disease, am not diabetic.

mastocytosis interesting. I guess I have research to do...

...did I mention it is a great day to be alive?
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Glad you’re still with us OP!
There's never a dull moment here on planet earth, unless GLP ceased to exist...

Oh, and Biden can't dress himself....
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Had this happen twice and almost didn't make it the second time. At first the doctors thought it was food allergy but turned out our house air conditioner outside and inside (where you couldn't see unless ripped apart) had mold growing in it! Got tested and it came back that I suddenly had become highly allergic to dust, dust mites, mildew, and mold! Spent years with epi pen and avoiding triggers. Got better after a few years but didn't listen to the doc about never vaccuming or dusting ever again so a third run to the emergency room convinced me to get maid service just to do those two chores. I don,'t like it, costs me two hundred a month, but it keeps me alive.

Hope this helps, best of luck.
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Had this happen twice and almost didn't make it the second time. At first the doctors thought it was food allergy but turned out our house air conditioner outside and inside (where you couldn't see unless ripped apart) had mold growing in it! Got tested and it came back that I suddenly had become highly allergic to dust, dust mites, mildew, and mold! Spent years with epi pen and avoiding triggers. Got better after a few years but didn't listen to the doc about never vaccuming or dusting ever again so a third run to the emergency room convinced me to get maid service just to do those two chores. I don,'t like it, costs me two hundred a month, but it keeps me alive.

Hope this helps, best of luck.
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Notice that your eating micro greens, watch out because if you have a mold allergy the micro greens are prone to get mold!
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Bizarre experience yesterday. I nearly died from Anaphylaxic Shock. The Amberlamps and two EMTs got an epi pen into me right as my airway was nearly closed and I was losing consciousness.

The reason I am posting is that I am trying to find out what the trigger was. Scary to be uncertain of the causal agent.

Important facts:

I am 6 feet tall, 51 yo, male, active, but probably 40 pounds overweight. Married, three kids, own my business, work quite a bit and generally feel good. No chronic health issues, zero medications, no known diseases.

Two weeks ago, my younger brother visited from out of town. We had not seen each other for a year or so, and he says “Man, you’ve gotten fat.” Truth hurts, but it can be effective.

Started Keto two days later. A first for me. Almost zero carbs, lots of protein and fats. The first week I missed carbs a lot (bread and pasta are my main poisons of choice), but I stuck it out. Felt okay, just kind of irritable. Lost about 4 pounds.

End of the second week the Keto ‘flu’ hit with a vengeance. My understanding is that this is a sign that the body is making the fundamental transition from burning carbs for energy to burning fat for energy. Nausea, headache, diarrhea, and more. I was grade-A miserable, but two days later it was pretty much over, and when I used a urine test strip, for the first time, I was solidly producing ketones and therefore Ketosis was happening.

That was yesterday morning.

I had farm eggs and sausage for breakfast. Lunch was pot roast from a friend’s grass-raised steer. It felt great to be pretty much over keto flu.

Now, next comes the possible trigger, though it is hard to believe. I picked up some MCT oil a few days ago. It is often used to support ketosis, because it is zero carb, but packed full of healthy fats (Medium Chain Triglycerides). It simply highly refined coconut oil. I eat a lot of regular coconut oil, but never MCT. I mixed about a teaspoon in coffee, and sipped on it after lunch.

4 hours later, feeling normal, suddenly I notice my lips and tongue are swelling. I have not eaten anything for hours, have not been stung or bit that I am aware of, and I am sitting at my desk realizing I am entering Anaphylaxic Shock.

I have no known allergies, so I do not have an epi pen lying around. Very rapidly my arms, legs, and trunk are red and swollen. Sweating profusely. It is getting harder to draw a breath and my vision is getting poor, fast.

We live very rural, and I am home alone. No help.

The farmer who owns the land next to our home & shop just decided to drive to his equipment barn and hook up his bush hog. As I stumble out the front door to call 911, there he was.

He called 911. EMTs show up about 12 minutes later (pretty good for our distance from the hospital). They hit me with an epi, start fluids, put me on oxygen, and get me to the hospital.

They released me a few hours later. I went to sleep about ten and woke up at four a.m. way too happy to be alive to go back to sleep. Frankly I feel pretty good.

What does GLP say? I need to figure out what the trigger was, so I can avoid it…

BTW, I am not a secret agent, a whistle-blower, and I do not have dirt on the Clintons, so I have no reason to think some toxic agent was daubed onto my keyboard by the deep state.
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lower your salt intake and limit sugar, fats, dairy and meat and chicken, the pounds will start falling off.
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dont do fad diets

eat real food, do some exercise, plan on it taking a long time to lose the weight

watch your fat intake especially

real food ... cook, basic ingredients, nothing ready to eat from supermarket

try boiling some frozen vegetables once in awhile, take some vitamins, you may find cravings go away ... maybe try one of those "superfood" supplements that are concentrated nutrients from vegetables and fruits
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OP you should request a prescription for some extra epi-pens from your doctor. Keep one with you at all times--at home, in car, in pocket.
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Doc wrote me a scrip for two, but I need to do some research... I would like to avoid spending $700 on one.
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Bizarre experience yesterday. I nearly died from Anaphylaxic Shock. The Amberlamps and two EMTs got an epi pen into me right as my airway was nearly closed and I was losing consciousness.

The reason I am posting is that I am trying to find out what the trigger was. Scary to be uncertain of the causal agent.

Important facts:

I am 6 feet tall, 51 yo, male, active, but probably 40 pounds overweight. Married, three kids, own my business, work quite a bit and generally feel good. No chronic health issues, zero medications, no known diseases.

Two weeks ago, my younger brother visited from out of town. We had not seen each other for a year or so, and he says “Man, you’ve gotten fat.” Truth hurts, but it can be effective.

Started Keto two days later. A first for me. Almost zero carbs, lots of protein and fats. The first week I missed carbs a lot (bread and pasta are my main poisons of choice), but I stuck it out. Felt okay, just kind of irritable. Lost about 4 pounds.

End of the second week the Keto ‘flu’ hit with a vengeance. My understanding is that this is a sign that the body is making the fundamental transition from burning carbs for energy to burning fat for energy. Nausea, headache, diarrhea, and more. I was grade-A miserable, but two days later it was pretty much over, and when I used a urine test strip, for the first time, I was solidly producing ketones and therefore Ketosis was happening.

That was yesterday morning.

I had farm eggs and sausage for breakfast. Lunch was pot roast from a friend’s grass-raised steer. It felt great to be pretty much over keto flu.

Now, next comes the possible trigger, though it is hard to believe. I picked up some MCT oil a few days ago. It is often used to support ketosis, because it is zero carb, but packed full of healthy fats (Medium Chain Triglycerides). It simply highly refined coconut oil. I eat a lot of regular coconut oil, but never MCT. I mixed about a teaspoon in coffee, and sipped on it after lunch.

4 hours later, feeling normal, suddenly I notice my lips and tongue are swelling. I have not eaten anything for hours, have not been stung or bit that I am aware of, and I am sitting at my desk realizing I am entering Anaphylaxic Shock.

I have no known allergies, so I do not have an epi pen lying around. Very rapidly my arms, legs, and trunk are red and swollen. Sweating profusely. It is getting harder to draw a breath and my vision is getting poor, fast.

We live very rural, and I am home alone. No help.

The farmer who owns the land next to our home & shop just decided to drive to his equipment barn and hook up his bush hog. As I stumble out the front door to call 911, there he was.

He called 911. EMTs show up about 12 minutes later (pretty good for our distance from the hospital). They hit me with an epi, start fluids, put me on oxygen, and get me to the hospital.

They released me a few hours later. I went to sleep about ten and woke up at four a.m. way too happy to be alive to go back to sleep. Frankly I feel pretty good.

What does GLP say? I need to figure out what the trigger was, so I can avoid it…

BTW, I am not a secret agent, a whistle-blower, and I do not have dirt on the Clintons, so I have no reason to think some toxic agent was daubed onto my keyboard by the deep state.
 Quoting: Azaziah


Thank god you are alive bro!

Allergies are related to liver health. If you were 40lbs over-weight, chances are you have a fatty liver. My advice....get your labs checked and pay special attention to liver values.

Whether your liver values are high or not, I seriously suggest you look into FASTING. Okay, I know it is VERY trending right now but it is your body's natural way of healing itself because every animal on this planet was designed to fast. Simply put, our bodies were made to get us thru periods of feast & famine. And not having elevated liver values in your blood tests doesn't mean you don't still have a fatty liver and fasting is THE absolute best way to empty your liver of fat. Period. End of story.

So when you do fast, just be aware that you will feel like shit for the first 1-2 day and that is because your metabolism will slow down significantly. Do not worry...it is natural and you WILL get thru it. After this period, your metabolism will ramp up significantly and you will have increased energy & alertness you will not have experienced since you were a kid! And this will last for several days until you decide to end your fast.

Now, I won't kid you, you will get hungry during your fast but there is help for that. There are "foods" you can eat that won't promote an insulin response or break your fast. The first and best is Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV). The ACV will aid your liver in breaking down & metabolizing the fat in it....it might sound like hocus pocus but it is not. Take my word for it. ACV will cure your hunger pains and give you energy on a fast like nothing else. What I do, is I buy the pre-made drinks from Bragg and drink like 3 a day to get me thru each day...and it is NOT cheating....and it WORKS. The other thing you can do, is sip bone broth when the hunger gets too bad or you are feeling too tired. The bone broth will not break your fast. Other things that will help is to eat a pickle slice or some sauerkraut...don't gorge but a spear or a couple of ounces of kraut will not break your fast.

When you want to come off the fast, make a point to drink bone broth 3 times daily for the first day. Next day, add steamed broccoli & cauliflower. Then the next time you eat, add in more foods that are known to be gentle on your stomach.

Brother, I am the last person on the planet that you would think could ever have fasted. But I fasted for 12 days this past January and since then have done a 4 day, 7 day and recently a 2 day fast. It is freaking awesome to realize the power of your own body and its healing mechanism! I have lost over 50lbs, have the clarity of mind & energy of a 16yo now and ALL my health problems are GONE. I was type 2 diabetic....that's gone. I had daily heartburn for my entire life....gone. I had chronic nasal congestion....gone. I had bad digestion for years....gone. I now have easily 5 times the energy I used to have while eating easily a quarter of the food I used to consume on a daily basis too....and that's from maintaining with a keto diet...but eating keto only is NOT going to flush the fat from your fatty liver.

Your liver health is key to your overall health and there is nothing better for your liver than fasting. Trust me on this one. Do not be afraid and don't avoid it because it is "trendy" now. Fasting is legit....and trendy for a reason....because it works!

I hope for your sake, you see this and follow this advice. I hope everyone does!


hf
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Awesome post. Thank you.

We are big fans of ACV.
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You didn't change laundry detergent recently did you? Or other chemical/cleaner?

My sister 50, had a reaction that severe to All (laundry detergent). In reading reviews of that stuff, it looks like several people have. Full-blown anaphylaxis, life threatening.

She'd never had an allergic reaction like that to anything previously. She's scared to go anywhere without an epipen anymore.
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You said you were released from the ER, meaning you were not hospitalized. Does that mean you haven’t received follow up care?

At the very least I hope you have been given an epi pen. Do you have a script for one? If not get one ASAP. Contact your personal Dr.

Also make sure to begin follow care and start a medical record.
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Interesting discussion.
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Holy crap that is insane. I passed out from Anaphylactic shock once... not a fun experience was revived after someone picked me out of the road!
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doesn't it hit you right away if you eat something you are allergic too like shell fish or something?
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For me it was something in the ocean. I was surfing and couldn't get my wetsuit off quick enough. Never happened again. Still have no idea what happened.
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Wow that's weird. Jellyfish sting or polluted water with something toxic?
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I had a friend that was in the ocean an a lot of jellyfish tiny tiny babies was in the water with her and got between her skin and wet suit and caused huge skin manifestations
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Just read you did get a script.

If you have insurance you can contact them and get approved for coverage on certain medications not typically approved

You can also try to contact the drug company. They sometimes offer coupons for their medications

Try prescription discount cards. A medication my daughter needed was not covered by insurance. The cost was $600. I searched for solutions and found discount cards. It ended up costing under $50

Here is one I use. I compare the cost covered by my insurance and many times I find using the discount card is cheaper. Some cards also list what pharmacies charge in the area. It’s stunning the difference in cost between pharmacies. I can’t remember if it was Costco or Walmart, they were charging a couple hundred less than CVS
[link to www.goodrx.com (secure)]
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Here is a coupon for Walmart

[link to www.singlecare.com (secure)]

It’s showing the cost to be $250

Also contact your DR. It may just take a change in the way he prescribes to dramatic lower the cost
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[link to www.drugs.com (secure)]

Good info on how to get pens at lower cost
Seems a generic is now available. It will take a The doc rewriting the prescription or if possible in your area, calling in the change to the pharmacy

Do what it takes, you shouldn’t have to go without the pen
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Keep searching until you find the discount card that will work for you.

BTW the discount cards are usually free
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Epipen website offers a coupon. It would lower the cost $300. Still pricey, but less than another ER visit


Can you tell I’m concerned about you not having immediate access to an epipen?
Sorry for over posting.

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I have done a lot of reading about histamine reactions because I get gastrointestinal anaphylaxis. The g.i. episodes have left me unconscious on the bathroom floor. The pain is worse than labor pains and the docs were not able to correctly diagnose it.I joined internet mcas support groups were ppl post and educate each other. That is how I found out what I had and how to treat it. When I start getting cramps I immediately take an H2 blocker (I take Pepcid) and it arrests the attack.
There is what can be called a "histamine bucket". We go through the day reacting to things and the histamine goes into the bucket. When the bucket gets full, it overflows and we get an allergic reaction. That is why it is so difficult to identify the responsible agent, because the last time we encountered it we did not get a reaction because the bucket was not full yet.
Antihistamines do not keep the histamine from being released from the mast cells, they are histamine blockers and keep the histamine from entering the cells. Blockers do not break down the histamine - DAO does that and some ppl do not have enough of that so the histamine accumulates.Some ppl who have this DAO shortage get complete relief when they are pregnant because the placenta makes loads of DAO.
You can take low histamine probiotics. they have helped me
a lot. I take Lactobacillus rhamnosus single strain probiotic. There is a lot of mounting evidence that MCAS is caused by a faulty gut microbiome - an overgrowth of bad bacteria.
Some other poster mentioned a bad reaction from a commercial producer of supplements. I did too. I ordered some citrulline amino acid and started itching all over.
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Another thought on lowering your histamine loads is that of refrigerated leftovers build up histamine.
Also fish, when caught, after 30 minutes or so, start accumulating histamine in its tissues because their guts contain a large amount of high histamine bacteria that starts getting throughout the fish.
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Reading the first few responses, I'd say there are some pretty bright people in this thread. I'd lean towards liver dysfunction/fatty liver and possibly contaminated MCT oil as well. And, keto isn't doing the liver any favors. Read Liver Rescue.
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You said you were released from the ER, meaning you were not hospitalized. Does that mean you haven’t received follow up care?

At the very least I hope you have been given an epi pen. Do you have a script for one? If not get one ASAP. Contact your personal Dr.

Also make sure to begin follow care and start a medical record.
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ER Doc wrote scrips for epi pens, benadryl, pepcid, and prednisone. I just got back from town getting those meds. I called around first and discovered CVS has an equivalent epi pen that is $95 for two instead of $1,400 for two. Good to know. Made by Amneal.

So yes, I have an Epi close by now, thanks. ;-)
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[link to www.activatethecard.com (secure)]

Epipen website offers a coupon. It would lower the cost $300. Still pricey, but less than another ER visit


Can you tell I’m concerned about you not having immediate access to an epipen?
Sorry for over posting.
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hf
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Reading the first few responses, I'd say there are some pretty bright people in this thread. I'd lean towards liver dysfunction/fatty liver and possibly contaminated MCT oil as well. And, keto isn't doing the liver any favors. Read Liver Rescue.
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I tend to agree. Both about bright people and liver / mct...

GLP is awesome.
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Good you found the cheaper ones. Those are more like the price over here. Note there are two strengths . Keep them dark and not in the fridge nor in a warm place in the original package.
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Good you found the cheaper ones. Those are more like the price over here. Note there are two strengths . Keep them dark and not in the fridge nor in a warm place in the original package.
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Yes. not cold & not hot, essentially. Brief excursions are permitted. I assume they do not want you to throw one in the glovebox of your car. Shame, that is what I had hoped to do. ;-)

They are 0.3mg, the same as prescribed.

Very interesting note: My brother, who is career military, said that they were taught that epi-pens have 3x the labeled dosage within. In an emergency, you can disassemble the pen and use a second syringe to harvest the remaining two doses.
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So glad to hear you got the pens. I hope you never need to use them
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The vitamin A information posted up-thread is fascinating...

The Canadian Engineer who argues that Vitamin A is not a vitamin but a toxin. Incredible research. I am just beginning to read and dig, but so far it makes terribly good sense in a sad, head-shaking way.

for example: eye problems? Doc says take vitamin A.

reality? vitamin A is causing the original eye problems, so they worsen when you take even more.

rinse and repeat.

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Bizarre experience yesterday. I nearly died from Anaphylaxic Shock. The Amberlamps and two EMTs got an epi pen into me right as my airway was nearly closed and I was losing consciousness.

The reason I am posting is that I am trying to find out what the trigger was. Scary to be uncertain of the causal agent.

Important facts:

I am 6 feet tall, 51 yo, male, active, but probably 40 pounds overweight. Married, three kids, own my business, work quite a bit and generally feel good. No chronic health issues, zero medications, no known diseases.

Two weeks ago, my younger brother visited from out of town. We had not seen each other for a year or so, and he says “Man, you’ve gotten fat.” Truth hurts, but it can be effective.

Started Keto two days later. A first for me. Almost zero carbs, lots of protein and fats. The first week I missed carbs a lot (bread and pasta are my main poisons of choice), but I stuck it out. Felt okay, just kind of irritable. Lost about 4 pounds.

End of the second week the Keto ‘flu’ hit with a vengeance. My understanding is that this is a sign that the body is making the fundamental transition from burning carbs for energy to burning fat for energy. Nausea, headache, diarrhea, and more. I was grade-A miserable, but two days later it was pretty much over, and when I used a urine test strip, for the first time, I was solidly producing ketones and therefore Ketosis was happening.

That was yesterday morning.

I had farm eggs and sausage for breakfast. Lunch was pot roast from a friend’s grass-raised steer. It felt great to be pretty much over keto flu.

Now, next comes the possible trigger, though it is hard to believe. I picked up some MCT oil a few days ago. It is often used to support ketosis, because it is zero carb, but packed full of healthy fats (Medium Chain Triglycerides). It simply highly refined coconut oil. I eat a lot of regular coconut oil, but never MCT. I mixed about a teaspoon in coffee, and sipped on it after lunch.

4 hours later, feeling normal, suddenly I notice my lips and tongue are swelling. I have not eaten anything for hours, have not been stung or bit that I am aware of, and I am sitting at my desk realizing I am entering Anaphylaxic Shock.

I have no known allergies, so I do not have an epi pen lying around. Very rapidly my arms, legs, and trunk are red and swollen. Sweating profusely. It is getting harder to draw a breath and my vision is getting poor, fast.

We live very rural, and I am home alone. No help.

The farmer who owns the land next to our home & shop just decided to drive to his equipment barn and hook up his bush hog. As I stumble out the front door to call 911, there he was.

He called 911. EMTs show up about 12 minutes later (pretty good for our distance from the hospital). They hit me with an epi, start fluids, put me on oxygen, and get me to the hospital.

They released me a few hours later. I went to sleep about ten and woke up at four a.m. way too happy to be alive to go back to sleep. Frankly I feel pretty good.

What does GLP say? I need to figure out what the trigger was, so I can avoid it…

BTW, I am not a secret agent, a whistle-blower, and I do not have dirt on the Clintons, so I have no reason to think some toxic agent was daubed onto my keyboard by the deep state.
 Quoting: Azaziah


something you ate or drank yesterday caused this.
did u take anything else ? maybe a ibuprofen or something else ? if not then stop taking the MCT now!

i am not a doctor, but if i was you i would most definitely keep plenty of Benadryl around and close to you, so if you feel this coming on again, then immediately you can take a dose or 2 or Benadryl asap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61724142


Roger that. I am NOT taking the MCT.

No, I did not take any ibuprofen or other.

Yes on the Benadryl. I now have that close by, and will keep some in the house, the shop, and our go bags.

It is just strange for us, because we take no medications, do not have prescriptions, eat mostly natural food, and never have to see a doctor. ever.

...and now this. ;-)

Did I mention it is a GREAT day to be alive?
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09/18/2019 09:07 PM

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Re: Not dying last night was great, but now I have questions about Anaphylaxic Shock
Most likely not caused by the MCT oil (or contaminants within). anaphylaxis presents usually after 30 minutes from exposure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77589388


Bullshit! A bad/fatal case almost always occurs within 5-20 minutes.

If it is one that is that bad, your dead in 30 minutes.

Google is your friend.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64007833


It was about four hours between drinking MCT and the onset of symptoms...
 Quoting: Azaziah


Ah, then likely not the MCT as poster above is correct...that severe of a reaction usually presents within 30 minutes of exposure.
 Quoting: Littlebit Too


But, as I am reading and learning... there are cases when the FIRST episode of anaphylaxis shock can be delayed by several hours... as the body builds its response to the new invader/irritant.





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