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Saudi air defenses like Patriot & Aegis don’t match their advertised properties, unfit for real combat – Russian Army (MAP)

 
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They were all pointing south ivan
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What can You expect from a country where
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The women wear black garbage bags.
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Re: Saudi air defenses like Patriot & Aegis don’t match their advertised properties, unfit for real combat – Russian Army (MAP)
could be

military tech worked well in some ops like Iraq, desert storm

but America is on a steep decline , many institutions are starting to rot

some of these missile defense systems have largely been designed AFTER the rot really began to sink in ... so, maybe they DONT work
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I think the vast majority of people now realize Trump pulled one over on the idiot Saudis.

Obsolete tech that can't even stop Houthi tribesmen.

Mohammed Bin Salman bin conned.

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Embrace the cognitive dissonance.
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could be

military tech worked well in some ops like Iraq, desert storm

but America is on a steep decline , many institutions are starting to rot

some of these missile defense systems have largely been designed AFTER the rot really began to sink in ... so, maybe they DONT work
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Or maybe they’re just positioned and programmed incorrectly. Many institutions are rotting but that is a completely different story about how our youth is/was subjected to Marxist ideology through propaganda and academia. I always wonder how this type of “education” was allowed to fester the way it has.

Unfortunately the young left and right will have to duke it out for whatever Rights we wish to keep. As a young person I see the elder right trying to hold on to what’s best for the Country while watching the left emotionally attempt to change dismantle the safe guard that is the Constitution protecting our God given Rights.

I pray that all of my elders in this Country will continue to atleast fight for our Right to speak freely and to bear arms. Without these the youth stands no chance to a Government attempting to take over complete control. The young people on the right can wake up the youth on the left. Simply explaining to them that it’s never been about left vs right but more so about all of the common folk controlling the government. Reminding those representatives of our range and scope. Liberty doesn’t trigger their minds because they haven’t lived without freedom. There’s no feelings behind these words for most of my fellow lefties.

The idea is to make them think again with intelligent tactics, not throwing hate back at them thinking they’ll eventually wake up on their own. I’m in danger of loosing a majority of my generation to falsehoods and lack of understanding of our Countries own history. I’m working overtime to find new ways to open their eyes through technology, catchy terms, phrases and plain Truth. Think like they do. Most are just loud without knowledge and seek emotional wins. So be loud at first then drop knowledge. Myself and many others need the help of our older generations, we still have to live here when you kick the bucket after all.
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USA is now a low IQ country, they dont know how to operate their military stuff. Haha.
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USA is now a low IQ country, they dont know how to operate their military stuff. Haha.
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Them is some smart missiles. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. They was designed by Syentists.
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USA is now a low IQ country, they dont know how to operate their military stuff. Haha.
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The first to fail.

Importing third world trash into a former first world country...

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American tech is shit tech

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could be

military tech worked well in some ops like Iraq, desert storm

but America is on a steep decline , many institutions are starting to rot

some of these missile defense systems have largely been designed AFTER the rot really began to sink in ... so, maybe they DONT work
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this2

We now have had 20+ years of continual increases in both military and domestic spending, with both contractors and politicians getting fat on the proceeds, and the few people who have cried foul, being laughed at and ignored.

We are like every other late stage empire - fat, stupid, undisciplined, and self-assured of our invicibility. Even when there are warning signs, they are brushed under the carpet.

And like those other empires, our people are likely to truly shocked when someone comes along and starts smashing our expensive, invincible and ultimately termite-weakened structures.
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Re: Saudi air defenses like Patriot & Aegis don’t match their advertised properties, unfit for real combat – Russian Army (MAP)
I agree, although to defeat a couple of drones you don't really need much more then a simple kinetic, rapid-fire weapon. Like a minigun with a radar on an APC chassis.

Russia implements layered defenses of it's strategic targets. S-400 for the big stuff and 30mm cannons for slow cruise missiles and drones. I have trouble believing that the Saudis did not implement such a defense on their major oil places.
If any foreign minister begins to defend to the death a "peace conference," you can be sure his government has already placed its orders for new battleships and aeroplanes.
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Iranian Military Far More Sophisticated Than the Empire Reckoned - Drone Strike on Saudis Proves It

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On September 14, 2019, nineteen targets at the Aramco Abqaiq processing facility and the Khurais oil field were struck from the air with pinpoint accuracy, resulting in the destruction of no less than half of Saudi Arabia’s oil production capability. This represented the loss of 5% of petroleum on the world market.

The Houthis of Yemen, who have for years been subjected to a genocidal Saudi Sunni sectarian war against their Shi’ite community, claimed that ten of their drones carried out the attacks. But these proxies of the Islamic Republic of Iran could hardly have had the capability to fly such sophisticated drones so deep into Saudi Arabia, and ten drones cannot hit nineteen separate targets. Further analysis suggested that the targets had all been hit from an angle of approach that pointed toward either Iran or Iraq as the staging ground, and that cruise missiles were used to hit many of the targets.

The drones may have been nothing but a ruse. The Houthi claim of responsibility does, however, rule out the possibility that this was some elaborate false flag operation staged by Neo-Cons.

Intelligence analysts initially ventured the possibility that the attacks actually originated in southern Iraq, where, in response to Israeli airstrikes, Hashd-al-Shabih, a Shi’ite militia loyal to Iran recently declared its intention to develop its own airforce. Kuwaitis witnessed unknown aircraft passing through their airspace on the night of the incident, and emanating from the direction of either Iraq or Iran itself. On Monday, September 16, the United States, which maintains a significant presence in Iraq, including radar capabilities, informed the Iraqis that the attacks did not originate on their territory or violate their airspace.

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Washington Foreign Policy 'Experts' Are All Incompetent, Partisan Hacks

Par for the course in DC, really

Nebojsa Malic (RT) 1 hour ago

An explosive essay calling out the lack of legitimate expertise about Iran ought to be a wake-up call for the US foreign policy field. Yet the same problem also affects Washington’s analysis of Russia, China and many other places.

Victoria Nuland, among the best of the US foreign policy establishment
Imagine a field of study in which less than a third of the experts had related doctorates, half of them could not read, speak or write the language required, and just as many have never set foot inside the relevant country. Preposterous, you might say – yet scientific observation has shown that this is precisely what the US expertise on Iran looks like, according to an essay by political anthropologist Negar Razavi, recently published in the journal Jadaliyya.

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Yes precisely @nargesbajoghli. This is a good opportunity for DC folks who took offense at my @jadaliyya piece on #Iran expertise to do what experts **SHOULD** be doing: Raise questions publicly abt evidence/agenda behind this problematic trope/repeatedly disproven claim. [link to twitter.com (secure)] …

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Also worthy of 🙄—“Iran is on verge of collapse, the sanctions/isolation is wkg” is a fav trope of “analysis” in Am & Brit media coverage. It’s appeared since @ least Jan 1980. It reveals more abt anxieties of limits of western power than abt what was/is happening in Iran. [link to twitter.com (secure)] …

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Razavi describes the think-tank culture of DC as “a wider system of knowledge production in Washington – one which has consistently rewarded ungrounded, ideologically driven assessments of the Islamic Republic at the expense of qualified, in-depth, and evidence-based analysis.”

This is her conclusion after two years of “ethnographic fieldwork” in the US capital, attending hundreds of events, following the writings and presentations of think-tank experts, and interviewing over 180 people between 2014 and 2016. In other words, this was a serious academic study.

This culture of “expert impunity” when it comes to Iran has combined with historical and contemporary US grievances against Tehran to produce the current policy of confrontation, in which allegations are treated as unquestioned facts while any nuanced assessments are dismissed as the work of “regime apologists,” according to Razavi.


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Your occasional reminder that a couple of years ago @CNN had a contracted Russia analyst who, by all accounts, has never been to Russia and can't speak any Russian. [link to twitter.com (secure)] …

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"Can you imagine someone claiming to be an expert on France? Its history, culture, politics, etc. And then imagine this person cannot even speak French or has never visited France. This is what is accepted as Iran expertise in DC"
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If this sounds familiar, that’s because the problem is not limited to Iran. Though Razavi focused exclusively on the state of Iran expertise, her assessment applies in equal measure to the self-styled experts on Venezuela, or Russia, or China, or the Balkans...

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Ok. So the war against Saddam showed that Russian weapons like tanks and fighters don't match their advertised properties and they are unfit for real combat,m
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What can You expect from a country where
The men wear dresses.
And
The women wear black garbage bags.
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Lol
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Ok. So the war against Saddam showed that Russian weapons like tanks and fighters don't match their advertised properties and they are unfit for real combat,m
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Different day now BOY
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Re: Saudi air defenses like Patriot & Aegis don’t match their advertised properties, unfit for real combat – Russian Army (MAP)
Why is Russian shit always blowing up or getting involved in accidents? Lol. And consider the source. Obvious Russian propaganda is obvious. The US has the best weapons in the world. Everyone with a brain known this.
AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!
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Why is Russian shit always blowing up or getting involved in accidents? Lol. And consider the source. Obvious Russian propaganda is obvious. The US has the best weapons in the world. Everyone with a brain known this.
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Different age now boy, forget piscean age welcome to the Age of Aquarius, it may take a lil while to let that sink in ...

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Saudi air defenses like Patriot & Aegis don’t match their advertised properties, unfit for real combat – Russian Army (MAP)

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Hey, Rooskie, How's that S-300 working in Syria?

Hell, even the Saudi's are flying over there in their non-stealth jets and bombing the fuck outta Hezbollah now!

cruise
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Saudi air defenses like Patriot & Aegis don’t match their advertised properties, unfit for real combat – Russian Army (MAP)

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Hey, Rooskie, How's that S-300 working in Syria?

Hell, even the Saudi's are flying over there in their non-stealth jets and bombing the fuck outta Hezbollah now!

cruise
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Try again ziofuck

Thread: BREAKING: Unconfirmed: Russia Allows Syria to Down Israeli F35s Using S300/400 “Hybrid”

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Hey, Rooskie, How's that S-300 working in Syria?

Hell, even the Saudi's are flying over there in their non-stealth jets and bombing the fuck outta Hezbollah now!

cruise
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Try again ziofuck

Thread: BREAKING: Unconfirmed: Russia Allows Syria to Down Israeli F35s Using S300/400 “Hybrid”

epiclol
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GORDON DUFF STORYTELLER!!!

Yeah I'm' a Zionist, FUCK YOU!
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Hey, Rooskie, How's that S-300 working in Syria?

Hell, even the Saudi's are flying over there in their non-stealth jets and bombing the fuck outta Hezbollah now!

cruise
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Try again ziofuck

Thread: BREAKING: Unconfirmed: Russia Allows Syria to Down Israeli F35s Using S300/400 “Hybrid”

epiclol
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GORDON DUFF STORYTELLER!!!

Yeah I'm' a Zionist, FUCK YOU!
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Pro war zios are triggered easily

Done him!

epiclol
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Re: Saudi air defenses like Patriot & Aegis don’t match their advertised properties, unfit for real combat – Russian Army (MAP)
those patriot systems work in Israel because Gaza is firing model rockets at them.

the Aegis system was proven to be a complete sham in Iraq war.

there was a single iraqi pilot brave enough to fire an exocet missile on a US destroyer. from FIFTY MILES AWAY, it split the ship in half.

that total piece of shit system couldn't pick it up for FIFTY MILES, exocets don't even fly that close to the water. Iran has all kinds of other shit that is wayyy more sophisticated than exocets.

well, that really shows you though.

the IRaqis pilots were too afraid to fire on US ships, their entire air force defected and ran away.

who knows what would have happened if they had all fired their weapons and engaged, they might have actually defeated the US.

the US had to stop flying all their fancy fighters because they were ineffective, that's why they were flying b29's and a10 warthogs, ancient WWII planes.

they also have to buy russian helicopters in Afghanistan because the US pilots refuse to fly the US made junk.

just remember, all 30 Navy seals in bin laden raid got killed on helicopter because they are shit.

even during the Bin Laden raid, the helicopter crashed.

that's the best pilots in the world on a mission like that, and they can't even fly those things.

and the chopper engineers are the best engineers they got, that's where they put the superstars.

the only thing defense contractors care about is money, they subcontract the highest most sensitive technology to china and india so they can turn a huge profit, they lobbied Clinton to let them launch military satellites in china, they hire cut rate tech school people from INdia to do all the coding.

they are laughing cuz they got all your software so filled with bugs and backdoors, and the people at the top dont have the slightest clue they all got there by being corrupt homos

all they can really do is go massacre helpless village people and their school children, they go to rural villags and kill all the school children and rape them and sell them to the SAudis

total fucking scum of the goddamn earth
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What can You expect from a country where
The men wear dresses.
And
The women wear black garbage bags.
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says the clown who wears jeans to showcase his flat ass while pinching
his balls with a golfball sized seam
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Re: Saudi air defenses like Patriot & Aegis don’t match their advertised properties, unfit for real combat – Russian Army (MAP)
The Patriot is unidirectional.


That is its weakness.


The Iranians and their proxies have found it and exploited it.





GLP