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BREAKING: Trump changed mind as US army told he could not attack Iran: Top cmdr.

 
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Trump changed mind as US army told he could not attack Iran: Top cmdr.

By Jim W. Dean, Managing Editor -September 19, 2019

[ Editor’s Note: This story from Iran came as no surprise. Sure, it is from a biased Iranian source, the head of its own military; but VT knew there were sane generals at the top of the US command structure that could explain to Trump what Iran’s retaliatory capabilities were.

And under the 4th Geneva Convention, it would be fully within their rights to use them, which would literally blow up in Trump’s face, as the retaliation destruction would then be on his tab.

The US military already had enough egg on its face by penetrating Iranian airspace and throwing an expensive drone away. It wanted to cut its losses, which was the smart decision.

Iran clearly had the right to shoot down the US drone. If the situation were reversed, we would have shot Iran’s drone down in a jiffy. There was never a word mentioned about Iran’s shooting it down as being improper.

After the initial US claim of its being in international waters was exposed by Iran publicizing its radar plot, we never heard another word about being “in international waters”.

With the military chiefs warning Trump of the potential retaliatory consequences, if he had then ordered the attack anyway and a disaster had resulted, even Trump had enough brain cells to know the military could go on record that it warned him not to do it.

Trump’s commander-in-chief glow would be painted as that of a pretender who has been bluffing his way through the Presidency with his reality-TV style, and it would become an issue during his 2020 re-election effect. Trump will protect that at all costs, as he needs to run the statute of limitations out on his legal cases … Jim W. Dean ]

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anything from VT should be taken with a grain of salt, just saying
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I think Irans defenses are better than the U.S. is letting on. Sounds like they might be in for quite a battle if they invade.
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no need to invade we can just drop bombs and launch attacks from hundreds of miles away...
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The problem is, they have nuclear armed agents HIDING IN AMERICA.
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I believe this is true. Suitcase nukes.
Only I thought it was Israelis who have them.
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he wont do it, because he is OWNED by the dark ones of earth. They wont allow ANYmore major events that could possibly disrupt the flow of society.

They are terrified of the public becoming united and taking action against them, so they will do whatever it takes to keep society flowing at the same rate it is now...... mark my words- NO major events will happen ever again. Like 9/11 major wars etc- NOTHING. They have the perfect scam going on and will allow nothing to disrupt that!
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You could not be more wrong.
I expect a ff on US soil before the end of this month.
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Trump is terrified of Iran
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No, that's not what it is. He is perhaps aware that war with Iran will cause suffering in the US. I think he actually cares about the US, regardless of his methods. I don't think he's a war monger, but they are going to back him into a corner. He is always trying to find a way to negotiate and talk, and he uses examples that no US citizen was harmed in the attack. That is why the deep state is going to be forced to pull another ff on US soil.
I have thought for a very long time that they intend to nuke Chicago. I've heard a Christian had a vision of a nuke to Philly. If it's an inside job, it will be a city like that. If it's an actual hit, it will be San Diego. That's where the bulk of our Navy is stationed.
We are on the verge of something really horrible coming to the US, and Trump is trying to protect us. That's how I see it.
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lol trust the plan
lol
when will idiot q tards wake up and realize that trump gonna fuck em all in the ass with no lube.

enjoy you're draft.
lmao
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THERE IS A LOTTA BULLSHIT ON THIS THREAD.

AMERICA WILL NOT ATTACK IRAN BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONE, SINGLE THING THAT WOULD MAKE THE IRANIAN PEOPLE ALIGN THEMSELVES WITH THE GOVERNMENT OF THEIR NATION.

WAR WOULD JUST SERVE TO PROP UP THE REGIME.

WE CAN DO IT, BUT WE WON'T BECAUSE IT WOULD BE COUNTER TO WHAT WE WANT.

IT WOULD BE EXACTLY WHAT THE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT WANTS.
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as he needs to run the statute of limitations out on his legal cases … Jim W. Dean ]
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Everything about the article was okay and didn't have the stench of idiotic liberalism until that last sentence.

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Trump changed mind? When did he ever declare war on Iran?

OF COURSE he consults with the military and the Secretary of Defense. Every president does! Besides, when does "the US Army" make all military decisions? I would think the air force would be more involved. Stupid article/tweet. They think we're stupid.

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I think Irans defenses are better than the U.S. is letting on. Sounds like they might be in for quite a battle if they invade.
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It will be similar to Iraq. We will probably have to throw the tanks in reverse after we run over the top of them first...We took Baghdad so quickly they had to turn around and go back...in fact, a longer initial assault would have been better, resulting in more Haji deaths...
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And now the rest of the story? How is that working out today?
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I think the delay is because Prez T and our intel services KNOW that the Iranians already HAVE nukes.

Any attack has to be very well prepared and thought out. We will have to totally destroy any nuke retaliation capability that Iran has as well as decapitate the leadership.

Its a tall order.

If it was me, I would spend a year or so in quiet preparation gathering intel and putting forces into place before striking.

We could use our own form of asymmetrical warfare by quietly sinking their subs, using sabotage on oil facilities, etc.

In the end, nuke armed mullahs is NOT acceptable.

BTW, back in 1991 I invented a way to attack oil facilities and make it look like accidents. I was asked to brief some guys at the Pentagon. They wore suits and were NOT military.

Who knows? Maybe they used my concepts. Or maybe they will use them now.
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They've had nukes since the deep state give them some in the 80s, and Obsama gave htem more.
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Corn silos in Venezuela by any chance?

There were Iranians stalking me back in 2011 that seemed to want me/ others to know about their trucking company coming across the southern border, plus local bombs, small planes and other nastiness etc. They seem to be using me to show what they were going to do to everyone if such and such a thing happened concerning the election and what not.
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THERE IS A LOTTA BULLSHIT ON THIS THREAD.

AMERICA WILL NOT ATTACK IRAN BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONE, SINGLE THING THAT WOULD MAKE THE IRANIAN PEOPLE ALIGN THEMSELVES WITH THE GOVERNMENT OF THEIR NATION.

WAR WOULD JUST SERVE TO PROP UP THE REGIME.

WE CAN DO IT, BUT WE WON'T BECAUSE IT WOULD BE COUNTER TO WHAT WE WANT.

IT WOULD BE EXACTLY WHAT THE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT WANTS.

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please note ^
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I think the delay is because Prez T and our intel services KNOW that the Iranians already HAVE nukes.

Any attack has to be very well prepared and thought out. We will have to totally destroy any nuke retaliation capability that Iran has as well as decapitate the leadership.

Its a tall order.

If it was me, I would spend a year or so in quiet preparation gathering intel and putting forces into place before striking.

We could use our own form of asymmetrical warfare by quietly sinking their subs, using sabotage on oil facilities, etc.

In the end, nuke armed mullahs is NOT acceptable.

BTW, back in 1991 I invented a way to attack oil facilities and make it look like accidents. I was asked to brief some guys at the Pentagon. They wore suits and were NOT military.

Who knows? Maybe they used my concepts. Or maybe they will use them now.
 Quoting: darth


They've had nukes since the deep state give them some in the 80s, and Obsama gave htem more.
 Quoting: Weyoun



Corn silos in Venezuela by any chance?

There were Iranians stalking me back in 2011 that seemed to want me/ others to know about their trucking company coming across the southern border, plus local bombs, small planes and other nastiness etc. They seem to be using me to show what they were going to do to everyone if such and such a thing happened concerning the election and what not.
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AND Obama's solution to the problem seems to be destroying me to cover up everything that happened. Just about done for.
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I think Irans defenses are better than the U.S. is letting on. Sounds like they might be in for quite a battle if they invade.
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It will be similar to Iraq. We will probably have to throw the tanks in reverse after we run over the top of them first...We took Baghdad so quickly they had to turn around and go back...in fact, a longer initial assault would have been better, resulting in more Haji deaths...
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And now the rest of the story? How is that working out today?
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True. That's why civilian Donald Trump and now President Trump never approved of the war in Iraq and doesn't want one now. Research shows that President Bill Clinton wanted a regime change in Iraq badly. It was all planned by the time Bush was elected, and Congress approved, including a yes vote from Senator Hillary Clinton.

Read the statement from President Bill Clinton here. Scroll down to:

President Clinton stated in February 1998:

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Trump changed mind as US army told he could not attack Iran: Top cmdr.

By Jim W. Dean, Managing Editor -September 19, 2019

[ Editor’s Note: This story from Iran came as no surprise. Sure, it is from a biased Iranian source, the head of its own military; but VT knew there were sane generals at the top of the US command structure that could explain to Trump what Iran’s retaliatory capabilities were.

And under the 4th Geneva Convention, it would be fully within their rights to use them, which would literally blow up in Trump’s face, as the retaliation destruction would then be on his tab.

The US military already had enough egg on its face by penetrating Iranian airspace and throwing an expensive drone away. It wanted to cut its losses, which was the smart decision.

Iran clearly had the right to shoot down the US drone. If the situation were reversed, we would have shot Iran’s drone down in a jiffy. There was never a word mentioned about Iran’s shooting it down as being improper.

After the initial US claim of its being in international waters was exposed by Iran publicizing its radar plot, we never heard another word about being “in international waters”.

With the military chiefs warning Trump of the potential retaliatory consequences, if he had then ordered the attack anyway and a disaster had resulted, even Trump had enough brain cells to know the military could go on record that it warned him not to do it.

Trump’s commander-in-chief glow would be painted as that of a pretender who has been bluffing his way through the Presidency with his reality-TV style, and it would become an issue during his 2020 re-election effect. Trump will protect that at all costs, as he needs to run the statute of limitations out on his legal cases … Jim W. Dean ]

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Except the drone was recovered by navy divers in international waters... terrorist gonna lie.
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Lol you keep thinking that. Iran is on the list and will never be removed from the list until they are dealt with.

It’s cute how you think the military runs things and actually has a say in the matter, THEY DON’T.
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Press TV is an Iranian sponsored station. Just sayin.
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Iran is not Iraq. A ny type of attack will lead to WW3. It's not like Iran will just stand there and defend. Anyways i hope peace prevails. War is disgusting!
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Yes, the world is deathly afraid of your 14, 50 year old Air Force. As for missiles, a good surprise bombing, thoroughly done, should eliminate most of them, and maybe even YOU!

Eventually, the world must be cleansed of fanatical moslems. We may as well start with the most fanatic of them all, huh?
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specialstupid
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Well no, actually I'm quite the opposite of stupid.

You, however, just proved you are a GOATFUCKER!
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I think the delay is because Prez T and our intel services KNOW that the Iranians already HAVE nukes.

Any attack has to be very well prepared and thought out. We will have to totally destroy any nuke retaliation capability that Iran has as well as decapitate the leadership.

Its a tall order.

If it was me, I would spend a year or so in quiet preparation gathering intel and putting forces into place before striking.

We could use our own form of asymmetrical warfare by quietly sinking their subs, using sabotage on oil facilities, etc.

In the end, nuke armed mullahs is NOT acceptable.

BTW, back in 1991 I invented a way to attack oil facilities and make it look like accidents. I was asked to brief some guys at the Pentagon. They wore suits and were NOT military.

Who knows? Maybe they used my concepts. Or maybe they will use them now.
 Quoting: darth


It's people like you with your insane idea's that tempts Russia or China to attack the US pre-emptively.
 Quoting: Joe Blow 75049243


Our nation has enemies. Iran is a country with a national holiday called "Death to America".

Until the Shah was overthrown, Iran was our ally as well as an ally of Israel.

China and Russia will NOT preemptively attack the USA unless they are willing to be pounded into dust.

We are not threatening the territory or national existence of either Russia or China. Why would they attack? How much do they love the mullahs?

We make mistakes, but the USA has enormous capability to retaliate.

It is IRAN that is hijacking tankers and attacking oil installations. A nuclear armed Iran is not acceptable.
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Spoken like a true Neocon warmongering piece of shit.

Why was the Shah overthrown? That's right the CIA overthrew him. Seems like we created our fucking problem in the first place with unnecessary intervention. They don't have us because of our Freedumbs you imbecile, they hate us because of our constant intervention in the region and unconditional support of Israel.

Saudi Arabia and Iran have been waging proxy warfare against each other since the Syrian civil war started. It's simply a continuation of Islam's thousand year civil war between Shia and Sunni Islam. They hate each other and have always hated each other. Nothing will change that fact. The fighting in Yemen, Syria and Iraq was nothing but a proxy war between the Sunni world and it's allies and the Shia world and it's allies. We are on the Sunni side even though Sunni radicals have committed most of the terrorist attacks in the West including 9/11. The 9/11 hijackers were directly supported by Saudi Arabia and rich Saudis, but here we are pretending they are one of our best allies.

The constant scare mongering about Iran having nukes has been going on for 40 years. The only reason we get so uppity about it is not because they are a threat to us, but because they are a threat to our greatest best ally Israel. It's actually well documented that Israel has several hundred nuclear weapons from a secret nuclear weapon program where they stole our nuclear technology through espionage. Our best ally constantly carries out espionage against us, doesn't seem like a healthy relationship to me

That sand people bullshit has absolutely nothing to do with the United States. If Iran blew up a Saudia Arabian oil refinery that has absolutely nothing to do with the United States. Iran seizing a British oil tanker was a direct consequence of Britan seizing one of theirs first. The ship Britan seized ended up being released anyway. The only reason this is an issue at all and why it's constantly propagandized to the American people is because Iran is a threat to Israel. That still really isn't our problem but kind of makes you wonder who's calling the shots if our media and leaders are trying to get us to fight Israel's enemeos for them.
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Iran away from it





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