Rabbi Kaduri Predicted 40 Years Ago: Israel Elections But No Government will bring moshiach....This is happening right now in Israel

It is our moments of struggle that defines us

One last time try to focus. You missed the whole point of my perspective. So I will state it plainly. You are obsessed with the role playing that has engulfed your who means of an objective that is but a fantasy you have conceived to be a truth. And that it's not even in the realm of a reality simply b/c you conjure up conjectures not even based on facts.

First you never lived with your mothers father for a year from your birth. Although I was in the service at that time I did get several leaves home and your mother had a home during those times.

She visited her family often but didn't live with them. I am sure I have a better memory of this time than you; being I was twenty - twenty one and you were less than one. When I did return home just a few days after you turned one. Your mother was in her own home and had been shortly after you were born.

You didn't actually live with your mother's father during your 17th year but you stayed with your grandparents for about 6 to 8wks at that time period. You are always claiming an event or making a hyperbole that never happened. How many times must I correct you in your reminiscences in which you simply ignore the correction as if it were not presented. You believe these indiscretions b/c it lines up with your fantasy but they are not truthful they are exaggeration.

Lies are the product of liars and never contribute to the truth whatever might be the higher objective.

Many children stayed with their grandparents during those days; while their fathers were in the service but you were not one of them. Many grandchildren have visited their grandparents during the summer time at seventeen, but this doesn't automatically make them an anointed one.

Many believe they are one of the anointed in God's service but believing so and being so can only be justifiable within the confines of God"s attested confirmation. And you have no such demonstrable evidence in your past or now.

Your only testimony is that someone disagrees or dislikes you or won't confirm you are who you say you are. Therefore, like Joseph they are treating you unjustly. Thus, you must be that symbolic Joseph.

This objective/solution is no more structured after God's way of doing something than basing it's foundations on lies to achieve the same goal.

Wisdom is justified by her many children and I can assure you lies are not the gateway toward the enter of such an understanding that you seek to prove.

I only meant to make you aware of the fact that by ignoring your family for many years now. Your self inflicted punishment only works toward your twisted fantasies that justifies further evidence you must be the symbolic Joseph. And thus you further are content in this delusional justification of your own deeds of your own misconceptions. How can someone believe their deeds and actions are justified based on evidence conceived by the one whose beliefs clarifies everything he claims is evidence of a truth he himself falsifies in himself to begin with?

Meant to say in the first paragraph fourth sentence: "your whole means of an objective". Not "your who means of an objective'.

Hmmm sounds like a great start to your litigation in the throne room....I’ve read what happens in the end and apparently I don’t have to prepare one....but I like your start.

P.S kinda strange you thought Jon was me when you came back and she was at her parents when you came home. So several leaves but you couldn’t recognize me when you came home?

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I over look grammatical errors as I know you are getting up there in age. For some odd reason you think jacobs trouble is going to be done to a 73 year old medication dependent person instead of a 52 year old healthy person besides the “hip” injury....hello “hip” injury. Jacob. Do you know anybody else who caught the 1st borns heel and divided the blessings so he could share them? Scripture is happening right before your eyes and all you can see is all the blessings/inheritance is yours......secret for ya....it is shared with the other anointed.



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The difference between those who think they are the other anointed and me is.....I can see the 1st born and they can’t. You have to be able to see the firstborn to catch his heel....who can see you besides me sword? Nobody. That is how you know the second born anointed.

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At least I still catch most of them in my old age. But I have been sick these past few days so I will excuse myself.

Not as cognizant as I should be at this time, in my illness, but my perspective seems correct. However you might take also in consideration: the paragraph in the above post next to the last paragraph starting with Wisdom: the word should read "entry" of such an understanding, not "enter"..lol. I notice now that I have reread what I hadn't had time to do so before. Entry makes more sense than enter. It was nice of you to overlook it but that was not the purpose toward my objective.

Good night.

Was is dove or dove.....who knows you like me? You studied because someone made fun of you for saying the word dove like the bird instead of dove like dive....that is why you always correct yourself and nobody else cares because you can’t stand to be wrong...sorry to tell you but you are wrong again you are only the king and not the high priest. Your perspective is off also....you give one anointed 2 of the 12 sons blessing and cancel out the other anointed.

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7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.


The kingdom is not ending, the thousand years simply expires.

Read revelation 21 and 22...new heaven and new earth

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Yes and at what point are the two witnesses or messiahs ruling any part of it

The millennial kingdom on earth is davidic/levitic meaning separation of the kingship and the priesthood which means Jesus can’t rule on earth as it will rake 2 anointed in separate kingship and priesthood offices....this is the purpose of the 2 anointed .

There will be many kings and priests on earth but there will be only ONE Christ, ONE Moschiach, the ONE who comes to save us. There is no other name under heaven by which you can be saved. Jesus is the ONE. Besides Him, there is NO other.

Did he also predict Israel would be melted into a cinder?

After the thousand years, there is a battle. Meaning the kingdom of Christ is still there, this is what the massive army is gathering around.

Then fire comes down and devours them...

The two never rule any part of the kingdom by themselves per the Scripture, correct me on that if I am wrong.

Catching the heel has nothing to do with recognizing the first born in prophetic terms. If anything the one catching the heel sought first place but received it through other means.

One last time and you will not read this in any writings but mine (Book: "Enigmatic Sunrise") google it if you wish. Because it cannot be understood without it being revealed in God's discerning understanding. It was not something I sought but it was revealed to me by the grace of his own revelation. Not only by the reading of the Word but visitations of purpose as well.

The catching of the heel is symbolic of the end portion of the body of Christ. The heel is the end of the body. The heel in this case is the end days/times of the body of Christ.

Then shall that man come forth in the end as you know as symbolic Joseph. Others as the man child (Rev.12:4-5KJV), transformed later as one of the two witnesses of (Rev.11KJV). To others he is recognized as Shiloh. But his hand reaching the heel shows forth his workings (hand) toward that body coming at the time of the heel/end of the body of Christ and the end of those days.

Nevertheless, they are one of many names known by him for God has surnamed him (Isa.45:4KJV); meaning in the H*brew vernacular given many flattering names and titles. He is hidden until that day appears (Isa.49:2KJV), (Rev.6:2KJV). Then shall his conquest (overcoming) begin (Rev.2:26-27KJV).

Then shall he be shown to many and the understanding will be comprehended. But not by those who are now known. For his purpose is not to serve them. But another generation hid also from the view of understanding until he gathers them together in the service of the Lord (Gen.49:10KJV). His lips shall sing praises unto his God and his heart shall sing a new song unto his Lord, known only by him.

Then in the midst of the congregation shall he stand as a hidden arrow shot forth from a mighty bow. And he shall go to the hearts of many people for the glory of his God. As a scepter/rod of direction for his people (Gen.49:10KJV).

This man is of God's choosing and not of himself has he been called to do these works. Not of any merit in himself or desiring of man's preference of fulfillment. For as in all of God's mighty purposes his choosing is beyond understanding of his ways. It was the Fathers good pleasure and those two were named before the foundation of the earth. For even Christ said of them you know not what you ask. For these two are of the Father's calling (Matt.20:21-23KJV).

I was 11 yrs. old when I was made fun of in Sunday school. I have since read, memorized, and studied many passages and verses of Scripture, for over 60 yrs. since then.

I have been visited by the Lord many times as you well know. I have utilized the workings of God's Spirit for the purpose of healing, signs and even wonders and I know my way around the Word a little better these days.

I remember well and perhaps you recall it also; that night my brother desired that I drive his car back to him a hundred and fifty miles away. It had set for several years behind a barn in the country side while my dear brother served his time in prison. You know later he became a Christian and died in the arms of our Lord.

Nevertheless, after we got it started we discovered the tire in the back had a very deep hole in it. Each time we put air in it it ran out quickly. Now my sister-in-law (Peg) your aunt suggested as a new Christian that we might pray over some gum, seal it with a pray and the Lord would heal the hole.

Now I also had not been a believer much longer but I questioned myself why not. I was telling everyone I knew the Lord did miracles even today; now I was facing one.

Of course her husband a mechanic thought that we were nuts. Out there in the dark behind a barn in the middle of nowhere on a late Sunday night on our knees praying, chewing gum and asking the Lord to fix it until we got it to its destination.

The two of us prayed over that gum sealed the hole the best that we could put some air in the tire. Got in the car and drove it 150 miles to our destination. Got out of the car the tire was still up.

Today although God has answered many prayers that one still amazes me even when I seen it with my own eyes. My brother called later to thank me for getting the car there. He said it had a flat tire when he got to it in the morning but besides that it was running fine. I never told him the story. Even many years later. I wish I would have it would have built his faith in the Lord.

I tell you this not to boast for I suspect your aunt as a new Christian simply believed what God claimed. That nothing was impossible for him. If I had not seen this with my own eyes I could scarcely believe and the size of the hole. I don't recall ever talking about it again although several adult witnesses also saw it happen.

You may think I am blind but perhaps you might be wrong in your own projections. Remember the old deaf man that lived in your apt yrs ago. What say you? Can the blind heal the deaf? And whose prayers does God answer those with open eyes or those stumping about in the darkness of understanding.

You act as if you don’t know how tribal lines work. You are David the king and have to come from David’s line which if you follow David’s line it leads to Judah. You talk like a judah.....you see like a judah... you can’t see your counter-part like a judah....you plow the scriptures like a judah(grabbing all inheritance and blessings)....you have vexed the other anointed like a judah...you display all the characteristics of the firstborn inheritance Judah line.

The characteristics of the other anointed is those of the second born. You can tell which ones are the second born by them receiving the birthright. So the ephraim....the Jacob...the Joseph...etc are showing you the 2nd born. Again if you know how tribal lines work the 2nd anointed has to come from the birthright line which is the line of Joseph. Second borns are heel catchers. They learn from the 1st borns but they learn how to divide the blessings...that is why Hosea 10 states judah shall plow but Jacob will break his clods(divide the blessings).




There are two mothers that make up Israel(Ruth 4:11) Leah the firstborn whose son received the 1st born Judah inheritance/blessing and the other mother the second born Rachael whose son Joseph received the 2nd born inheritance/blessing of the birthright. Those two blessings are going to follow into the end times where the two anointed will each receive one of the two inheritances....David will receive the Judah inheritance of the kingship and the other anointed will receive the Joseph birthright blessing.



I know you don’t like visuals but show me how David is going to be from two different tribal lines and be born from 2 different mothers Leah and Rachael to receive the sceptre and the birthright? ....if you could show me how David is going to do that I would appreciate it.


Do you really think one anointed is going to come from both of the 2 mothers who made up Israel Leah snd Rachael and the other anointed who you claim is from Gad his mother will be from Leahs slave Zilpah?......that makes no sense.....Give Leahs son in the latter days coming from the line Judah the sceptre and give Rachaels son from the latter days the birthright through the line of Joseph




The kingship inheritance is the Judah inheritance:

Hosea 3:5

5 Afterward the children of Israel shall return and seek the LORD their God, and David their king, and they shall come in fear to the LORD and to his goodness in the latter days.




Notice one anointed will come from The Leah/Judah line and the other anointed will come from the Rachael/Joseph line. The antichrist is to come from Dan which is Rachaels slave Bilhah line....it wouldn’t surprise me if the false prophet was from Leahs slave Zilpah line possibly Gad. As the two true anointed are from the two free women and the two false anointed will be from the 2 slave women.




Notice both Dan and Gad attack the heels:

17 Dan will be a snake by the roadside,
a viper along the path,
that bites the horse’s heels
so that its rider tumbles backward.
18 “I look for your deliverance, Lord.
19 “Gad-will be attacked by a band of raiders,
but he will attack them at their heels.




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You on the other-hand cannot see the forest for the trees. Your traditions have led you down a path that excluded the Lord's work in adjusting God's purpose through Christ and him sacrificed as that lamb of God.

This is the motion of God's working. You follow tradition that carries all away from what the Scripture already reveals. This process is no longer needed any more so; than worshiping in a temple built by the hands of man.

Christ now has become our temple in those who believe in him. God proved the power of this by the splinting of the curtain 2000 yrs. ago. Dividing and putting asunder what men's tradition no longer would acknowledge. That the true lamb has for once and all time come and he was not seen as such by these men of traditions.

Yet men in the comfort of their traditions choose to follow what they once believed and cannot behold what now appears. All things are now new in Christ. The old things have vanished, all things have become new.

Until this concept of God's true perspective of what has been accomplished through his Son has been fully accomplished. Men will continue following tradition, no longer needed through the ignorance of such understanding.

These things are those many mysteries Paul sought to speak about. He would desire that we be not ignorant of this truth but the reckoning was not for his days.

For the traditions of men sought their solace in these displays of temple worship and sacrifices no longer in the same purpose as was taught beforehand. Rather than in the comfort of their true Messiah.

As once he said onto them: search the Scriptures; for in them you think you have eternal life: and they are they that testify of me. And you will not come to me, that you might have life (John.5:39-40KJV).

Tradition kills the truth but life comes by the Word and what it has already completed/finished. Yes God sends two anointed ones in the end days. But not as purposed as you believe Waterman.

They will not come forth as a king or a priest but two prophets of God. To rebuke men who love their lives and the ways of the world. Their hearts will conceive to enlighten those whom God has set aside for the truth. But their wrath against those whose ways are set in rebellion and dishonor, against a people chosen and their God.

Their efforts will flourish, endeavored by the 12 tribes brought forth of the 144,000 to assist and call out many.

These days will be recognized and acknowledged as tribulation times. The finished by product, the cleansing of the temple. And thus, the start of God's millennial kingdom on earth.

Who rules and who resides in this kingdom is made clear in Scripture. And the dead in Christ once murdered by that man of wickedness shall return to life again to reign with Christ (that anointed one). Thus, shall the two witnesses be among them in that ruler-ship. But not necessary in the order of tradition as a king/prince of Israel or a priest of another office.

No Ezekiel shows clearly a prince in/of Israel at that time (Ezek.44:3KJV), in the office of his duty. And that same prince of Israel also performing the duties of a priest and those burnt sacrifices being offered (Ezek.46:2KJV). A man of fleshly attributes thus producing children from his inner self.

And who might be this other anointed brought forth with the other witness of Revelation. Perhaps a prophetess for the word prophet in revelation (11) means either male or female prophets in the strong concordance.

Shall these two become one in the millennial age brought back to life to produce seeds of righteousness for their time? Perhaps more questions than answers but God does not reveal ever mystery at once.

Nevertheless, that prince in/of Israel shall give his lands to his fleshly children as it pleases him at that time. Therefore, this would exclude Jesus as the producer of fleshly children for this is not conceivable of the spiritual aspects of the Lord of glory.

Thus, this man must be one of those sacrificed by that wicked one during tribulations, to rise up again in the last days entering the millennial kingdom to rule a thousand yrs.

Elijah “restores all things”....what does restore mean. It means to bring back what once was. Elijah will restore the davidic/levitic kingdom and the law.








So you start off the law is done away with and end with animal sacrifice will be done by the prince during the millennium? Right now the law is on pause because of the dispensation of grace to save the gentiles....the dispensation of grace that Paul is in charge of revealing is for the gentiles. Not to say some jewws won’t accept it but the majority will be gentiles. During the millennium David will be the lawgiver.....lol a lawgiver without the law...that’s going to be an easy job...lol. David will be the lawgiver Joseph will be the interpreter of the law that David gives. Why? Because the millennial kingdom is the next dispensation which is the combination of grace through believing in what Jesus did and practicing the law for holiness because there won’t be Satan around to tempt the people.

You keep trying to utilize Paul’s gospel on the millennial kingdom different dispensation people. I guess this is why you get to be the lawgiver but the other anointed interprets it.

That prince isn’t going to give lands to his fleshly children he has in the millennium. David is king and this prince is Joseph which is the only line that had two sons who became tribes....so the sons this prince who is doing the high priest duties is blessing is the sons of ephraim/mannaseah....you could have 2 sons every year for a thousand years and not be able to bless as many as Joseph could bless because his sons are ephraim and mannaseah and those tribes will grow every year at a much faster rate than David could reproduce....lol


The dead in Christ will rule with Christ where he is. Where will Jesus be? In heaven of course with the bride and their streets of gold and many mansions. Jewws populate quickly especially when barely anybody dies....so let’s not over populate the earth with the bride of Christ and the tribulation saints.....let’s leave some people up in Jesus’ heavenly kingdom..lol


The reason Jesus and the saints come back to earth at the end of the tribulation is to bind Satan and his cohorts. They don’t want to live on earth where it is davidic/levitic which means separation of kingship and priesthood.....when they are melchelzedek order kings and priests in the higher realm of heaven.......can you just picture Jesus saying “I knew those mansions would last for 7 years because I’m a carpenter”...lol.....those mansions were built to last for the duration of the millennium because that is where the bride and trib saints will be living in the heavenly kingdom until the jewws pass their test for the new heaven and new earth and join the bride and trib saints as kings and priests in the new heaven and new earth.

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Messiah Ben Joseph creates the world that messiah Ben David will rule in:
The guy you least likely think is Joseph is Joseph
16:30 - 18:00 minutes



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Hmmm sword your comments usually come on when I’m asleep....no comments tonight? We will remember these days as our younger years before you knew who was who...lol

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Waterman, I have a post to send but it will not go through. I have tried erasing half of my words that might be the offensive one/s; but can't find it. You once show me how to detect what word/s was the one that they would not allow. I didn't understand the process but someone here did. And we discovered it right away. Can you post and tell me how to do that again. I cannot imagine what the word or words are they find offensive. Thanks.

Never mind waterman the one that is here with me figured it out and I will post it soon. He is very busy today and tomorrow but after that.

You just copy what you want to post and then instead of posting it you just post “a period” or just a letter. Then see the edit button under you name? Push edit and paste what you copied and press update. Everything will show up and the banned words will say something weird like “nope” or something similar.





Notice one anointed will come from The Leah/Judah line and the other anointed will come from the Rachael/Joseph line. The antichrist is to come from Dan which is Rachaels slave Bilhah line....it wouldn’t surprise me if the false prophet was from Leahs slave Zilpah line possibly Gad. As the two true anointed are from the two free women and the two false anointed will be from the 2 slave women.




Notice both Dan and Gad attack the heels:

17 Dan will be a snake by the roadside,
a viper along the path,
that bites the horse’s heels
so that its rider tumbles backward.
18 “I look for your deliverance, Lord.
19 “Gad-will be attacked by a band of raiders,
but he will attack them at their heels.








I’ve noticed something if you only leave yourself as the lowest possibility it is the same as if you leave yourself as the highest possibility your perspective becomes one sided and scripture remains hidden from you. Always leave the possibility that there is another who is higher or lower. Just because you are called doesn’t mean another isn’t called to an equal or higher position. It is wisdom to look at all perspectives and not just one perspective.











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Calm down waterman before you burst a nerve gasket or something essential. It's all speculation at this point. Who Joseph represents is a matter also of speculation. And I might also add whose calling he belongs to. I suspect most affirmative he is symbolic of the future man child to appear in the end days. But of course this is but my speculation.

As I said earlier the tribulation saints are a separate classification than the bride. Those the bride, represents are not of the tribulation and thus would not qualify to reign with Christ during the millennial age.

As it says in Revelation those martyr's during the tribulation times will again be brought to life to rule with Christ. This is in Scripture, look it up I have been quoting Scripture all along but you cannot hear it anyhow.

The bride is a separate entity all together. They exist as the body now both in heaven and on earth. Yet, the next generation to appear after they have escaped will be of the tribulation saints. They will know and understand its meaning and the preaching of its order of things to follow.

This population increase will indeed accrue after a thousand yrs. God's solution.. build a new heaven and earth. His family will continue to grow throughout eternity. He is not nervous about it but intends it to do so. The bigger the better.

As I said beforehand I never take the time to read your material only glance at its speculations periodically. It is mainly the same as you and your ilk have been regurgitating for years. Nothing is set in stone when it comes to God. What fools would we be to assume all our trajectories in the spiritual grasp of things are correct b/c some scholar or theologian of the past or present says it is so.

It is all speculation on man's part seeking to interpret the meaning of God's objective. As if his ways are ours or his plan is seen clearly or his thoughts are fully revealed. For even the higher things of the spiritual realm knew not of the King's appearance or his method of action. Otherwise they would never have killed the King of glory and foiled their own direction of achievement.

No they sought for the coming prince of Israel to mount their attack upon. But never saw the highest sending first his own Son. How ingenious of our God to create a plan laid out before them and us (the uninformed peoples at the time) and yet they all failed to recognize those things invisible to the deeper understandings.

Let us never get so cocky in our speculation of our own assessment of what is our own truth of reasoning that we miss the greater picture of God's past practices.

Do you think that evil realm could ever be entrapped within their own schemes again? Of course as many time as God desires. He plays the enemy as a cat would with a mouse and they are foiled and fooled again and again even daily. To God be the glory.

Thus all things work for good toward those who love him and are called according to his purpose. But not so for the planners of schemes and seekers of recognition beyond their callings and needs of selfish satisfaction. For such plans rule in the hearts of men not yet conformed to his ways of his mysteries and the lessons of our God yet to be learned.

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They have a government and like a 30-day notice.

Not quite so, I know who I am.

No amount of graphs, charts, pictures or persuasion will ever exchange my experience of the dismay of that day. No seeking to convince me otherwise will ever accuse me that what I was told and shown can be detracted by any means.

I know for me I will not remember these days. For far greater things lay ahead. Not only for me but all who trust in him.

Sword:

I would not want to give the apology you are going to give when you see what the second born goes through(jacobs trouble) because you wouldn’t take the time to say two sentences when you were called and given more than one chance to do so.

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