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Message Subject Rabbi Kaduri Predicted 40 Years Ago: Israel Elections But No Government will bring moshiach....This is happening right now in Israel
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Bout time you posted something other than a bump...lol. Elijah hidden?..lol...did God hide noah...did God hide Jonah or John the baptist or those he sent to forewarn the people?....the world will see Elijah

As far as the jues waiting for the "false messiah" I continually hours a day while setting my services listen to rabbi talk about the two anointed who are to come. You know who they can't wait for? David...so if David is the false messiah you might be in trouble...lol. The rabbi know those scriptures and they know the millennial kingdom is a davidic/levtic kingddom which makes it impossible for a melchelzedek Jesus and bride to rule on earth in a lesser davidic/levitic kingdom. Nobody comes to the Father but by faith in Jesus....if you are going to use faith in Jesus for salvation then you can't place Jesus on earth where everyone can see him.....if so then Jesus should have been on earth walking around during the gentiles testing of faith for the 2000 year duration of the age of grace. You don't need faith if the object of your faith in right in front of you in full glory and you see everybody that believed in him have glorified bodies walking around on earth.

You don't think elijah is going to show up before everybody in America/Ephraim gets vaccinated. God is going to let all the people get their dna changed before he does anything?....what would be the purpose if they are no longer redeemable?

Another thing rabbi kuduri said was when the anointed one arrives he will arrive in a way that seems unholy to the jues...now i've contemplated all the ways a nobody could get up on that world stage to bring a message on exactly passover week and I can't find a better one than to win a record breaking lottery. Win the lottery and one can pick the exact day he wants to be on the news to reveal he won. Both lotteries are at about 400 million right now which means about middle of february they will be in the 2 billion dollar range....which give a little over a month for passover march 27 - April 4 2021 and the arrival of elijah.

With Biden/Harris elected we have our Ahab/Jezzeble and once she steps down and obama returns to the stage we will have the beast that was that was not and that is again. He will give power to the 10 nation for a time and judgement will fall on america/ephraim..........I don't have to tell you the beast means his government...obama being the beast means obamas government.

THanks for posting it gave me something to read...lol



P.S If you want me to review that book for ya let me know...lol


 Quoting: waterman


I beg to differ with you; of course Elijah is not going to be recognized by unbelieving gentiles or otherwise or the world in general. Just as he was not recognized by the Pharisees at the time of John.

Or for that matter any other non-believer failing to recognize the workings of God. The Egyptians didn't recognize the workings of Moses. Neither, will they understand the times of the coming forth of the two witnesses. For they will also fail to be recognized by the World and all its unbelievers. Even to the point of being hated by the World and its inhabitants.

For it has always been so with those blind (unbelievers) toward the ways of God. So no he will not be recognized by the very ones he seeks to warn! Nevertheless, through God's grace some will hear and heed his calling/warnings.

I am leaving you in the hands of the Lord. Although I doubt he wants you.

Anyone believing they and the lottery is going to bring about an eternal event prophesied long ago. Without the apparent necessary need of God's assistance; but only through circumstances, speculations, reasoning, a soon coming vaccine and the obvious need for a new leadership in the land. Besides all that; everything seems lined-up and ready to go..lol.

All we need is an Elijah and I bet you have discovered him also just waiting on the sideline to receive, you believe, his anticipated glory in the eyes of the World.

Have you not yet recognize glory never is obtained for God's servants, only ridicule. Oh yes much shame and embarrassment also. Nevertheless, remember this, embarrassment leads toward correction and much embarrassment toward glory long later exposed/revealed/recognized.

Let's hope it doesn't rain that day and Elijah refuses to step outside to warn the populace..lol. Or perhaps Biden doesn't quite reach his goal. Or too many received the vaccine before God could intervene. Or the lottery doesn't come through in time to finance your grand scheme; so many scenarios so many things to go wrong.

But be assured and fear not, God' plan never fails. Not necessary the way we plan them but as he plans them. And our Elijah has been and remains full of surprises. Perhaps he will not even be who we thought he was at all!

My friend knowing the truth sets a man free. But seeing the truth requires humility. An attribute few possess. Therefore, I would advise you spend less time on speculation and more reliance on what the Word depicts for these times.

P.S. Why would I want you to review my new book? You couldn't comprehend or distinguish the character in my last book..lol. You definitely would be totally confused with a lion character representing a metaphor for a man in this new book..lol.
 Quoting: S-wordlike


‘I’m leaving you in the hands of the lord although I doubt he wants you”....who says that but one who is an adversary/opposer of another?


Satan definition:

“Satan”: This could also be translated “adversary” and thus the person’s identity would be unknown.

The original Heb.term satan is a generic noun meaning "accuser" or "adversary", which is used throughout the Heb. Bible to refer to ordinary human adversaries,as well as a specific supernatural entity. The word is derived from a verb meaning primarily "to obstruct, oppose".When it is used without the definite article (simply satan), the word can refer to any accuser,but when it is used with the definite article (ha-satan), it usually refers specifically to the heavenly accuser: the satan.


Zechariah 3:1:
Young's Literal Translation
And he sheweth me Joshua the high priest standing before the messenger of Jehovah, and the Adversary standing at his right hand, to be an adversary to him.


Isaiah 11:13:

The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off: Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim.


Judah’s have a problem stopping playing “monster” with Joseph’s ...that’s why it takes a throne room visit/rebuke by God to end it...lol..after that we will be at Isaiah 11:13

Hmmm if only the high priest knew who would be his adversary...lol

Joseph and Judah
 Quoting: waterman

Still living in your make believe own interpretive scriptural verses. Making no since and false claims of that high priest verse just as you use to do with your wicked priest interpretation. That actually had nothing to do with your original self-concept of the meaning of the wicked priest as one of the two witnesses. A completely different version/meaning of the wicked priest and its origin, Google: (wicked priest).

There is only going to be one individual in the throne room, not two as you fantasize. he is often referred to as the chosen ONE, not TWO!

There are three/four versions of that one man's visit to the throne room through different witnesses in scripture (2 Cor.13:1KJV). (John's vision) (Rev.12:5KJV)); as the man-child (Rev.12:5KJV), and as the overcomer in another vision (Rev.2:26-27KJV). (Daniel's vision) as the one LIKE the Son of man (Dan.7:13KJV). (Zechariah's vision) as the high priest (Zech.3:1KJV), who eventually becomes/transforms into the BRANCH (Zech.3:8KJV).

Thus, is the reason Joshua is no longer mentioned after the appearing of the BRANCH. Because the BRANCH inverted reveals another position of authority not previously recognized. An established one of king-ship and thus hiding on the other side of the priesthood.

Thus, the BRANCH is but one depiction of a twig that once finally burgeoned to its full revealing becomes that of a great BRANCH meant to only be shown in the light of its day.

But only with the other side hidden from view until walking (at the end of many generations), to view its other side. Only than appears a new concept of the same BRANCH seen differently in its inverse Positioning.

Thus, the reason for the exclusion of discussing the high priest/Joshua toward the other side of the BRANCH discussing the ruler-ship of that of Zerubbabel! Here is the meaning of the BRANCH one individual in one BRANCH but holding two hidden (so far at this time-frame) positions. A great mystery even hidden from those 24 elders sitting before Joshua eyes (Zech.3:8KJV). But its timing will appear in its placement!

Thus, branching off holding both offices as (high priest/and king-ship) (Joshua/Zerubbabel); as in the changing of his filthy garments and renewed with a new raiment of clothing (Zech.3:3-4KJV). As in the conformity of his Lord, (King of kings/High Priest).

Thus, fulfilling in these scriptural depictions; of all four prophecies of future scriptural promises during this man's reign, in/during the millennial age. (Ezekiel's vision) (Ezek.44:3-46:1-18KJV) as the prince (royalty) in/of Israel and a (priest) (Ezek.46:1-18KJV). Offering sacrifice on behalf of his subjects and himself. This man cannot be Jesus, Jesus is sinless, not needing to offer sacrifices on behalf of himself.

Notice all these positions of that one individual prophesied holds the same eventual role..to rule the nations/peoples and all languages. Thus, it is not disclosing two but one personage! Not the ruler-ship in the millennial age as the personage of Jesus. But a ruler-ship of a figure capable of sin, producing children and retaining a wife in so doing. None of these things I might add are needful of the resurrected Jesus. And he would have no desire or capacity within the realm of the physically aspects of life toward these purposes.

God confirms this testimony by placing two or more witnesses of this one future event through the witnesses of four examples of the same individual, the (man-child/overcomer/one LIKE the Son of man/Joshua/Zerubbabel).

STOP making up scriptural translations that substitutes Satan for another personage that the Word doesn't and never had intended to mean! The Word declares Satan, the Word means Satan. The Word is not confusing; man's interpretation of the Word is the confusing aspect of the scriptural conjecture!

He is the same Satan depicted as a dragon ready to devour the man-child before he begins his commission (Rev.12:4) once back on earth. and both Joshua and that man-child is being attacked by that same Satan and are they are both the same ones called to the throne room in this depiction! And Satan wants to devour that one before for commission and his 3 and one half time-frame ceases to be.

And I can assure you before that time he was not comfortingly sitting by waiting for Elijah to announce him as you claim.

He will be experiencing hell on earth several years before that in a furnace of affliction and in a prison of torture and torment. Nevertheless, he will overcome all these adversities trusting in his God.

Read the adversities of Job's torment, tortures, and the dissolving of his sanity. For this will be the highest degree of the baptism the Lord was baptized with and the cup from which he drunk. As he demands of holy men and servants in the service of the Most High!

For The book of Job is written for that man of woe. Not Job the man then but a future Job to come, A prince hidden, a man sought out by Satan to destroy. Fearing it will lead toward his own demise; within His almighty power of authority and His unquenchable fury in His display of His fiery displeasure against that evil one.

For Job knew not the meaning of his prophesying or the utterance of that Spirit or its meaning hidden at the end of his words/work/book.. For he, him-self declared in the last chapter of his sayings: I understood not the words I spoke or of the utterance of my prophecies I spoke, for God hide them from me.

(Job.42:3KJV) Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? Therefore have I uttered that which I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.

For Job knew in part those utterance were not prophesying about him but another one hidden for a future explanation. Thus, the mystery of the book of job remains hidden, until its fulfillment comes to be. Then shall it be revealed and spoken often in the mouths of coming generations.

For Job knew men were foolish and are without understanding and their hearts deceive their knowing. For they regard themselves as the children when they are not seeing their own time.

(Job.24:1KJV)WHY, SEEING times are not hidden from the Almighty, do they that know him not see his days?


Now we have gone over these same subjects many times and you insist that your version of these scriptural meanings have nothing to do with one individual but two.

But I nevertheless Waterman can understand why you would and want to believe that way. Without that version of your demented interpretation you would be excluded as one of the possible two witnesses of (Rev.11)!

A position you continually claim and boast is your position and possession. Not by any confirmations or visitation to declare such a thing, neither of no other witnesses in agreement with your claim has God sent forth.

Only because you and several hundred others also has come to the conclusion that they are also that Elijah figure or some other great one that mankind is waiting to appear upon the scene of humanities destiny!

And I can understand why any man such as you, would believe as you do, that Jacob/Israel are the names of two separate individual; instead of the same individual with two names. That there are two riders on the white horse/steed who went forth conquering (overcoming) (Rev.6:2KJV), as you believe. That Mary might have had an affair with a man to bring forth Jesus, as you believe. And some if not many other antithesis versions of scriptural misunderstanding you insist on holding on to.


Yes I can understand why you seek to conjure up unscriptual interpretations of your own twisting of scriptural meanings to seek a position of recognition of grandiose.

Yet, you are so blinded by this ambition that you fail to see how blind that ambition has made you or who it is that leads you toward this doom.

Wake up my friend before your blind ambitions cause you to believe you are the greatest man ever created...oh you already believe that don't you..sorry but you are not that man! For he must be the one least among us, and desiring no recognition...to fit that order.

He will detest all competition of any order and would prefer solitude to recognition. Solace to conflict. The lime light only blinds him; and he only seeks wisdom at the cost of humility. His only desire will always be and continually remains the glorification of his God in His Form, in His Body and in His Spirit.

No other ambition I believe is compared to this goal for mankind. And no greater glorification shall man/women ever receive in the ages to come but for this one singular goal above all others. All other boasting is of the works and the rewards of the stubble, hay and wood, to burn for a light toward a different path/direction/goal we should seek!

Now we have discussed this more than need be. Your mindset seems to be established my son, one who has sit and ate bread at my table...need I say more!
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I see you still lack the understanding that the millennial kingdom will be a davidic/levitic kingdom meaning separation of the kingship and priesthood. Also when Zechariah and revelation state there will be two anointed it doesn’t mean one anointed it means two. The book of Zechariah and book of revelation are connected books this is why you see the high priest Joshua being given priestly dominion in Zechariah and you see in revelation the man-child being given kingship dominion in revelation because the two books are a continuation

There will be no melchelzedek order kingship/priesthood on earth during the millennium as that is reserved for the heavenly realm and those who will dwell in heaven during the millennium.


The 2000 year age of grace was to make the gentiles kings and priests in heaven. The next 1000 year millennium is to make the Israelites and earth dwelling gentiles kings and priests when the new earth comes after the millennium......so for the duration of the millennium it will be davidic/levitic again meaning separation of the earthly kingship/priesthood.

You try to extend the brides covenant into the millennium.....the earth will not be the melchelzedek order covenant. The people on earth will not be kings and priests until after the millennium when the new heaven and new earth come where the two anointed sit on the left and right of Jesus.....to sit on his left and right both have to drink from the cup again showing two anointed not one anointed.

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P.S I looked up the synonyms for “wicked” as in wicked priest here is the link and the synonyms are an illicit priest, an illegal priest, an unlawful priest or an illegitimate priest....which is what a davidic king would be in a levitic priesthood kingdom if he tried to be the high priest on earth during the millennium.....I looked it up for you so you won’t be surprised in the end....you’re welcome:

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