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This is how the Anti Christ Comes to power.

 
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Who is Revelations written to? Same as all other books of the bible - BELIEVERS !

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

I am now more disposed to believe that when Revelations says that the beast causes ALL to receive the mark, both small and great, that God is referring to believers only as his concern is only for his people; those who choose him as their Lord and God.

The bible says, if I remember correctly, that Satan causes all to sin. The context therefore is concerning God's people who it matters if they sin, if they take this mark, if they follow after that man of perdition.

There are a billion Catholics so I will assume 2 things, that not only is the man of perdition the pope, but also the pastors who Jesus warned about saying Do as they say not as they do. They stand in the place of God when they take center stage every service. They hate it when others stand center stage. The mark is believing that church is what God wants. The mark is setting up men over themselves to rule over them, and tell then what to do, and scratch their ears with bullshit that Jesus never said or never said to do. The mark is literally following man instead of the living God Jesus HIMSELF. At least, that could be one way of looking at it.

Since the mark concerns buying and selling which most believers do anyways and fear to trust Jesus and sell everything they have and give to the poor and preach the gospel and minister to people and don't work for food or clothing or money or anything that robber can steal, I'd say that 99.999% of believers already have the mark.

So what else is the mark?

Fear, and unbelief.

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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Have no fear, I is here.
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Revelations bothers me immensely. How could receiving a "mark", qualify one for eternal damnation when the only unforgivable sin is against the Holy Spirit?

So either the "Mark" in of itself is a sin against the Holy Spirit in some way, or the "Mark" is a sinful activity, that those that would take it, would never think to repent of.
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Hypothetically speaking, if the "mark" was something that were to alter your DNA into something non-human (or especially of demonic design), that could conceivably be reason for God to remove his breath of life from a person, which was intended for humans only.

2017: CRISPR gene editing being tested in human patients
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There are people who claim to have been shown/warned by God that that is what the "mark" actually does / will do.

Not looking forward to...what will be involved in not taking it
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Anti Christ will torment them with drought and extreme heat
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People think that the Anti Christ is going to be this super "sinner" guy that pushes all kinds of evil and is an obviously bad person. Or some version of that.

But the reality is the anti Christ is going to ride in on a white Horse so to speak and seem to save the day and restore order.

Look at all the threads here and all that is going on.

*Pedophilia in schools in 100 different ways.

*Invasion by Islamic people groups and all the rape and killing that goes along with it being protected by the law.

*Environmentalism chaos, economic chaos, chaos in the churches and places of faith

*War being talked and worried about almost every day on multiple fronts.

*The almost complete takeover by the so called LGBTQ2P zombie army and being forced on the culture at every turn.

I could go on and on.

When Hitler came to power he put and end to all the cultural insanity going on in Germany. He stooped the sex clubs, put the pedos to death, put the cabosh on the LGBT movement of that time. In general he put everything in the country back in order. for a time... then things went south.

The Anti Christ is the same thing on a much bigger scale. He is not going to be pro LGBTQ and all the rest of it like people think. He is going to seem to restore order, put the smack down and save the planet and humanity.

only... it wont last because the dude is the freaking Anti Christ and he is actually the embodiment of pure evil.

My point being all these things simply set it up more and more each day as "normal" people get fed up to embrace the solution when it shows up.

No one will know that the guy is the actual Anti Christ until he goes into the temple in Jerusalem and declares himself God. Thats when the schmit hits the fan and no one can buy or sell after that and all the really crazy stuff goes down.

It just seems like the pot is being stirred and its almost to boil in preparation for a savior to show up.
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I think this is right. Now, it appears to me that the radical left is positioning themselves as really extreme to the point of crazy to make Obama look like a moderate when he returns to power. Also, the fake alien invasion will have Obama as the only world ambassador they will listen to.
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Mark of the beast is fear and u belief of Jesus and following his commands. You cannot serve God AND money. Jesus said quit your jobs, don't work for the world, work for God, he will supply your needs as you go about the world and spread his message of salvation.



You lukewarm believers are already deceived! Property tax is already a mark, because it causes you to buy and sell (work for money) lest you lose your homes. You're not afraid to work under any conditions, mark or no mark, you just don't want to do God's work is the point.
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People think that the Anti Christ is going to be this super "sinner" guy that pushes all kinds of evil and is an obviously bad person. Or some version of that.

But the reality is the anti Christ is going to ride in on a white Horse so to speak and seem to save the day and restore order.

Look at all the threads here and all that is going on.

*Pedophilia in schools in 100 different ways.

*Invasion by Islamic people groups and all the rape and killing that goes along with it being protected by the law.

*Environmentalism chaos, economic chaos, chaos in the churches and places of faith

*War being talked and worried about almost every day on multiple fronts.

*The almost complete takeover by the so called LGBTQ2P zombie army and being forced on the culture at every turn.

I could go on and on.

When Hitler came to power he put and end to all the cultural insanity going on in Germany. He stooped the sex clubs, put the pedos to death, put the cabosh on the LGBT movement of that time. In general he put everything in the country back in order. for a time... then things went south.

The Anti Christ is the same thing on a much bigger scale. He is not going to be pro LGBTQ and all the rest of it like people think. He is going to seem to restore order, put the smack down and save the planet and humanity.

only... it wont last because the dude is the freaking Anti Christ and he is actually the embodiment of pure evil.

My point being all these things simply set it up more and more each day as "normal" people get fed up to embrace the solution when it shows up.

No one will know that the guy is the actual Anti Christ until he goes into the temple in Jerusalem and declares himself God. Thats when the schmit hits the fan and no one can buy or sell after that and all the really crazy stuff goes down.

It just seems like the pot is being stirred and its almost to boil in preparation for a savior to show up.
 Quoting: ScoreZero


I think this is right. Now, it appears to me that the radical left is positioning themselves as really extreme to the point of crazy to make Obama look like a moderate when he returns to power. Also, the fake alien invasion will have Obama as the only world ambassador they will listen to.
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Oh, One caveat to the above. Jesus is going to appear very soon, but He will appear IN His saints (Christ in You the Hope of Glory). Compare the uses and meanings of the words Epiphaneia and Phaneroo which mean to shine forth from within vs. Parousia which means bodily arrival. You can't get this right through english translations alone. The original greek makes things more clear. Just as Jesus was the man-child of that day, so the man-child of Rev 12:5, John 16:21 will be Jesus in full manifestation in a body of Saints (not all Saints).
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Thread: Antichrist will come as Christ.
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Revelation 13:16-17

16 And he causeth ALL, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
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Revelation 13:16-17

16 And he causeth ALL, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
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Who is this 'ALL' that revelation mentions receiving the mark of the beast?

Why do you think you currently dont have the mark of the beast?
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Revelation 16:15

15 (“Behold, I am coming like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake, keeping his garments on, that he may not go about naked and be seen exposed!”)


Matthew 24:43


43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into.


1 Thessalonians 5:2

2 For you yourselves are fully aware that the day of YHWH will come like a thief in the night.




SO TELL ME SO-CALLED "CHRISTIAN", WHAT IS THE PROOF THAT YOU DONT ALREADY HAVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST AND ARE NOT RULED BY ANTICHRIST ALREADY?
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The mark will simply be something like a proclamation of your rejection of Jesus Christ... like the T-shirts the gals who were so proud wear who got abortions... there will be a proud testimony (a mark or tattoo perhaps) Wear it with pride they will... will you?

The mark of the beast ultimately is willful sin... rejection of Gods will.

In the mean time satan will eat them all and most will eat each other...even the most loyal to him mean nothing to satan as they are still a creation of God and hated most deeply for that alone...
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The mark will simply be something like a proclamation of your rejection of Jesus Christ... like the T-shirts the gals who were so proud wear who got abortions... there will be a proud testimony (a mark or tattoo perhaps) Wear it with pride they will... will you?

The mark of the beast ultimately is willful sin... rejection of Gods will.

In the mean time satan will eat them all and most will eat each other...even the most loyal to him mean nothing to satan as they are still a creation of God and hated most deeply for that alone...
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I dont think so.

It will not be a direct rejection of Jesus.

In the old testament Nebuchadnezzar made a gold statue and required everybody bow and pay homage above all their own deities. Anyone who didn't was thrown into the fire.

Its the same thing. Everyone will be like, "Ok no big deal after all this guy proved he has the powers of God anyway"

It will only be the Christians who dont do it. Which will piss everyone off 1000x ever before. "You guys have been screwing the planet up forever and now this!!?? Off with your heads!"
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The mark will simply be something like a proclamation of your rejection of Jesus Christ... like the T-shirts the gals who were so proud wear who got abortions... there will be a proud testimony (a mark or tattoo perhaps) Wear it with pride they will... will you?

The mark of the beast ultimately is willful sin... rejection of Gods will.

In the mean time satan will eat them all and most will eat each other...even the most loyal to him mean nothing to satan as they are still a creation of God and hated most deeply for that alone...
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They have been working on using nanobots to target specific areas of the brain. They have been isolating the parts of the brain responsible for free will. Maybe the mark is a voluntary lobotomy delivered with just the prick of a needle.
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A small but important point of prophecy regarding the anti-Christ and the tribulation:


We can avert it, and it does not have to come to pass. In my opinion that simply means it gets rescheduled.

Obabble was an anti-Christ hopeful, but he didn't have it in him, so he is just going on the list of anti-Christ hopeful clowns with the scores of others.

Starting to look to me like the cabal is getting put on hold this time around.


If not, either way it's all good. I always wanted to see a tribulation.





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