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Dr Dana Meaney-Delman is leading the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s investigation into the culprit behind at least five confirmed deaths and 450 reported cases of lung illness linked with use of the devices.

The agency is recommending that people refrain from the use of any electronic cigarette or vaping device until there is more conclusive evidence of a cause, she said in an interview.

“We’re trying to prevent any additional cases and deaths,” Meaney-Delman said.

She has reviewed data so far from 64 patients, including cases published on Friday in the New England Journal of Medicine as well as other reports. Eighty percent of those patients reported the use of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the psychoactive component of cannabis, she said.

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It's pretty obvious. Common sense would tell you it's street stuff otherwise we would have THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE suffering and dying from these symptoms.
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Of course the news won't report this and the politicians RUSH to pass legislation to regulate this because they see this as an opportunity they can't let go to waste.
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It's pretty obvious. Common sense would tell you it's street stuff otherwise we would have THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE suffering and dying from these symptoms.
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Yes I agree but this is the first confirmation from a CDC or TPTB source that states it.
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Fentanyl most likely put in the counterfeit cartridges. Chicoms want us dead.
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more Chinese counterfeits. they're killing us.
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It's pretty obvious. Common sense would tell you it's street stuff otherwise we would have THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE suffering and dying from these symptoms.
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Bs , cigarettes kill thousands and nothing is done, they are just trying to protect big corporations as usual .
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It's pretty obvious. Common sense would tell you it's street stuff otherwise we would have THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE suffering and dying from these symptoms.
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Bs , cigarettes kill thousands and nothing is done, they are just trying to protect big corporations as usual .
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The legal stuff will kill your shit faster then anything else .
I heard the cdc and gov agencies never real lie ever.
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It's pretty obvious. Common sense would tell you it's street stuff otherwise we would have THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE suffering and dying from these symptoms.
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They are vaping oils, not vaping fluid. I also think if the politicians regulate this stuff the rate of kids vaping the black market bad oils will go up.
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well, they should have done all the god damn chemical analysis
on day one.
what the hell are coming out with this news 2 weeks after the fact? wtf
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Fentanyl most likely put in the counterfeit cartridges. Chicoms want us dead.
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I personally feel some of the cheaper cartridge's have very inferior metal components , with some parts even having a cheap coating on them. Ive vaped and I noticed the horrible taste of metal coating being vaped right along with the ingredient. It leaves a horrible taste in your mouth. Use of only the more surgical type steel, is shall we say more preferred. Unfortunately some people just do what ever, and it doesn't cross their minds. Much like doctors prescribing harmful medications and people self medicate their preferred dosage?
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It's pretty obvious. Common sense would tell you it's street stuff otherwise we would have THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE suffering and dying from these symptoms.
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Yes I agree but this is the first confirmation from a CDC or TPTB source that states it.
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Dr Dana Meaney-Delman is leading the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s investigation into the culprit behind at least five confirmed deaths and 450 reported cases of lung illness linked with use of the devices.

The agency is recommending that people refrain from the use of any electronic cigarette or vaping device until there is more conclusive evidence of a cause, she said in an interview.

“We’re trying to prevent any additional cases and deaths,” Meaney-Delman said.

She has reviewed data so far from 64 patients, including cases published on Friday in the New England Journal of Medicine as well as other reports. Eighty percent of those patients reported the use of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the psychoactive component of cannabis, she said.

more here:

[link to thefederalistpapers.org (secure)]
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Thanks BBQ Boy. You know what’s quite creepy? When you try to share the article via text, the thumbnail is a Roy-Ters article that says “not so fast: US CDC not ready to blame illicit “street vapes” for illnesses” !!! WTH!?

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Wow

Thanks for the info
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I read somewhere they have been finding the bootleg thc cartridges with vitamin E as the medium instead of vegetable glycerin
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So, people, not guns are responsible for shootings?
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FWIW: Rumors here in Colorado is that a rogue group (un regulated/taxed and not inspected, i.e., black market) is selling cannabis vape products (mostly THC) diluted with vitamin E acetate instead of the allowed diluents like MCT oil, etc. Vit E is for topical/ingestion use only and should never be vaped as it will cause a hard oily buildup in the lungs. The problem is that Vit E oil is very cheap in comparison to the allowed diluents.



These "rumors" are coming from a very good source and Colorado may be the origination point for these black market products.


Hope this is helpful.

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I read somewhere they have been finding the bootleg thc cartridges with vitamin E as the medium instead of vegetable glycerin
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^^THIS^^

hf
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The problem with inhaling oils, any oils is a thing called Lipid pneumonia.
Doesnt matter what kind oil, oils induce a pneumonia since the lungs arent made to deal with inhaled oils.

WTf is wrong with you people wanting to stay fucked up all the time?
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Finally, some official confirmation of the real problem! Thanks!

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How far away from each other is each incident ? You would think there would at least be some geographic clusters of some sort
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CDC likes vaccines
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How far away from each other is each incident ? You would think there would at least be some geographic clusters of some sort
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Theres a map on this page but it only shows the 8 Deaths.

[link to www.thesun.co.uk (secure)]

EDIT: map of illnesses on this page:

[link to www.grandforksherald.com (secure)]

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It's pretty obvious. Common sense would tell you it's street stuff otherwise we would have THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE suffering and dying from these symptoms.
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Yes I agree but this is the first confirmation from a CDC or TPTB source that states it.
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It was so obvious, surprising it took so long to conclude. This is a perfect time to reiterate to the public "caveat emptor". If something is illegal, or in a grey area. never trust a deal too good to be true. Any deals on the street are provided by people that could care less about your death, and have no problem emptying out the chemicals under the sink, into their products.
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Lol. Heres what you all assume... everyone makes stuff the same way. Incorrect. The distillation process is just as dangerous as making alcohol. They use BHO distillation. Make any mistake and you have a bad distillate. These distillates cost a lot of time and money to make. They're being made in homemade stills. No lab testing. Then they buy legitimate packaging and cartridges and olace the bunk shit inside. How ever if done correctly there is absolutely nothing harmful about this stuff.

Ever hear of people dying from bad moonshine? Do some research. You can die from that shit too. Same thing going on here.


Dont buy blackmarket fakes. Lab tested or risk death.
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CDC likes vaccines
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gummint legalized vaccines and is busy legalizing drugs.

See a pattern?
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The problem with inhaling oils, any oils is a thing called Lipid pneumonia.
Doesnt matter what kind oil, oils induce a pneumonia since the lungs arent made to deal with inhaled oils.

WTf is wrong with you people wanting to stay fucked up all the time?
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It was my suspicion that the base oils were not carefully chosen, and resulted in this. Home cooking is a deadly proposition, probably using 3-in-1 Oil.
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like Marlborough ;)

(they are about to release their own vape products soon)

funny that.....
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Stupid vapers need their head examined, why not just smoke a NORMAL cigarette!
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CDC likes vaccines
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gummint legalized vaccines and is busy legalizing drugs.

See a pattern?
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depopulation, yes


of humans

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