CDC Says Illegal Vape Drugs, Not Vaping, Responsible For Rash Of Hospitalizations | |
Lumberghini
User ID: 77843620 United States 09/22/2019 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hate to dispute the CDC but they are wrong! The liquid form of vapeing has a liquid base and that is some form of oil. Anyone with any smarts knows that oil when super heated burns tissue. The smoke which is so popular comes from heating the mixture and when inhaled and cooled tends to form a gelatinous coating which appears to be what is happening. When money is involved, it's pretty difficult to get the big manufacturers to admit any liability - it will always be the other guy's fault. Yeah I suppose none of that can be ruled out quite yet. Perhaps vaping any sort of oil isn't that great for us. Interested to see where this goes. TRUMP 2020 Willam Barr 2024 |
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User ID: 8704537 United States 09/22/2019 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hate to dispute the CDC but they are wrong! The liquid form of vapeing has a liquid base and that is some form of oil. Anyone with any smarts knows that oil when super heated burns tissue. The smoke which is so popular comes from heating the mixture and when inhaled and cooled tends to form a gelatinous coating which appears to be what is happening. When money is involved, it's pretty difficult to get the big manufacturers to admit any liability - it will always be the other guy's fault. Yeah I suppose none of that can be ruled out quite yet. Perhaps vaping any sort of oil isn't that great for us. Interested to see where this goes. "oil". Smh. How do you remember to breathe? Cap'n Crunch, Cap'n Crunch - He's inviting you to munch. Cap'n Crunch, Cap'n Crunch - Munch a bunch a munch a munch. |
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PooPooPlatter User ID: 77063583 United States 09/22/2019 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fentanyl most likely put in the counterfeit cartridges. Chicoms want us dead. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76947138 I personally feel some of the cheaper cartridge's have very inferior metal components , with some parts even having a cheap coating on them. Ive vaped and I noticed the horrible taste of metal coating being vaped right along with the ingredient. It leaves a horrible taste in your mouth. Use of only the more surgical type steel, is shall we say more preferred. Unfortunately some people just do what ever, and it doesn't cross their minds. Much like doctors prescribing harmful medications and people self medicate their preferred dosage? Be careful and be smart. I tried vaping a couple britelabs cartridges....one tasted fine the other tasted like burnt rubber. It was awful. So i can imagine what bootleg street vaping stuff does. That one cartridge turned me off to vaping thc. I will never do that again. I was even debating weather to throw it in the trash and co sider it a loss. Oh well! |
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User ID: 76462481 United States 09/22/2019 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read somewhere they have been finding the bootleg thc cartridges with vitamin E as the medium instead of vegetable glycerin Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen Correct. They are using vitamin E and other chemicals called PG and PEG, it is what makes the oil evaporate. And the big truth here is that these were being used in the marijuana oil, not in the regular cigarette flavored oils. The people who died were smoking THC oil. Surprise, Surprise, the media gets the story wrong again. |
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BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 77857043 United States 09/22/2019 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our son vapes and mixes his own juices, he has made himself sick a few times. nausea vomiting headaches last a few hours, mostly from adding to much nicotine into his mixes. "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71408469 United States 09/22/2019 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's pretty obvious. Common sense would tell you it's street stuff otherwise we would have THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE suffering and dying from these symptoms. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78019862 Bs , cigarettes kill thousands and nothing is done, they are just trying to protect big corporations as usual . Yep, all this is big tobacco companies trying to get their nicotine addicts back from vaping. Like any drug dealer, its all about keeping their profit share. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76853663 United States 09/22/2019 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hate to dispute the CDC but they are wrong! The liquid form of vapeing has a liquid base and that is some form of oil. Anyone with any smarts knows that oil when super heated burns tissue. The smoke which is so popular comes from heating the mixture and when inhaled and cooled tends to form a gelatinous coating which appears to be what is happening. fail. neither pyopylene glycol nor vegatable glycerin are oils. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 77857043 United States 09/22/2019 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | must- Quoting: CitizenPerth get- vape-juice- from trusted supplier- like Marlborough ;) (they are about to release their own vape products soon) funny that..... Juul Labs Inc. may be a four-year-old company based out of San Francisco, but Altria Group Inc. (MO), the maker of Marlboro cigarettes, valued the e-cigarettes maker at $38 billion when it invested $12.8 billion late last year for a 35% stake. [link to www.investopedia.com (secure)] It's pretty obvious. Common sense would tell you it's street stuff otherwise we would have THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE suffering and dying from these symptoms. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78019862 Bs , cigarettes kill thousands and nothing is done, they are just trying to protect big corporations as usual . Yep, all this is big tobacco companies trying to get their nicotine addicts back from vaping. Like any drug dealer, its all about keeping their profit share. "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
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BBQ BOY™
(OP) User ID: 77857043 United States 09/22/2019 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As usual, sheeple consume things without giving a damn about the source and igreedients Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77777377 mostly just consume bs news though, as usual. "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77642517 United States 09/22/2019 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Check your cartridges to make sure they don't have fake stampings around the plug. Easy as that. If your carts come in packages that haven't been tampered with you are good. Been smoking these for a couple years and have zero health concerns from it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78022189 United States 09/22/2019 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's pretty obvious. Common sense would tell you it's street stuff otherwise we would have THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE suffering and dying from these symptoms. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78019862 Bs , cigarettes kill thousands and nothing is done, they are just trying to protect big corporations as usual . No. This is a different situation. Go on to eBay and you will see packing from name brand cartridges being resold after use and then empty cartridges that can be filled with whatever a person wanted to. What's happening is this. People buy name brand expensive legit cartridges, either use or re-sell the cartridges themselves, then take empty cartridges you can buy in bulk on eBay and fill with whatever crap the person wants to, then insert into the name brand empty packaging and sell on the street. The stuff being sold in regulated shops I would trust is completely fine. It's the street stuff that needs to be dealt with quickly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35053329 United States 09/22/2019 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CDC is big pharma owned, full of sh!t, what the hell does THC have to do with anything? THC isn't harmful at all, Vape dry herb only, do no vape oils with thinning agents and chemicals like PEG400, PG, etc, that are put in there to make them vapable. Bypass that whole thing and VAPE DRY ORGANIC HERB, old school, like you are rolling a doobie, except put in in a dry herb vaporizer instead of a rolling paper and smoking it (which is fine too), PROBLEM SOLVED FOREVER. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5336825 Canada 09/22/2019 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr Dana Meaney-Delman is leading the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s investigation into the culprit behind at least five confirmed deaths and 450 reported cases of lung illness linked with use of the devices. Quoting: BBQ BOY™ The agency is recommending that people refrain from the use of any electronic cigarette or vaping device until there is more conclusive evidence of a cause, she said in an interview. “We’re trying to prevent any additional cases and deaths,” Meaney-Delman said. She has reviewed data so far from 64 patients, including cases published on Friday in the New England Journal of Medicine as well as other reports. Eighty percent of those patients reported the use of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the psychoactive component of cannabis, she said. more here: [link to thefederalistpapers.org (secure)] Vaping or smoking anything is bad for the lungs. THC and CBD can be taken orally for recreation or medicinal purposes. Keep your lungs clean for better health. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72437209 United States 09/22/2019 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol. Heres what you all assume... everyone makes stuff the same way. Incorrect. The distillation process is just as dangerous as making alcohol. They use BHO distillation. Make any mistake and you have a bad distillate. These distillates cost a lot of time and money to make. They're being made in homemade stills. No lab testing. Then they buy legitimate packaging and cartridges and olace the bunk shit inside. How ever if done correctly there is absolutely nothing harmful about this stuff. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77336129 Ever hear of people dying from bad moonshine? Do some research. You can die from that shit too. Same thing going on here. Dont buy blackmarket fakes. Lab tested or risk death. everyone thinks these vape cartridges that are killing people and making people sick or it illegal or black market or illegitimate. The vape cartridges that are marijuana based and are sold in the stores in states where it is legal, are probably just as bad at hurting people's lungs as anything that is on the street and black market. The pot vape cartridges that are sold in dispensary stores in the legal states have oil. Oil is the problem, it does not mix in the lungs. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77078146 United States 09/22/2019 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Same old, same old. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77078146 Leave me alone and we're good. Don't leave me alone and it's game on. Same old, same old. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77078146 Leave me alone and we're good. Don't leave me alone and it's game on. Yes,I will kill you. Leave me alone and it won't be an issue. Why is this hard? LEAVE ME ALONE. |
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