Bible Study - Does ANY ONE Person or Denomination Totally Understand ALL of WHAT the Bible Says?

God didn't come to earth.

God SENT His SON John 3:16 Jesus' OWN words.

What part of "the Son OF God" is it that you can't comprehend?

Thread: Son of God - Jesus' Relationship To The Father - John 17 and More - Bible Study

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God was NOT BORN.

Yet Jesus CLEARLY states here that He WAS BORN.

John 18:37 Therefore Pilate said to Him, "So You are a king?" Jesus answered, "You say correctly that I am a king For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, to testify to the truth Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice."

EVERYTHING Jesus said IS TRUTH.

He SAID "I am the SON OF GOD".

Mark 14:61-62

61 But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?

62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

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John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

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John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

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John 9

35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?
36 He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him?
37 And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.

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John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

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Luke 22

67 Art thou the Christ? tell us. And he said unto them, If I tell you, ye will not believe:
68 And if I also ask you, ye will not answer me, nor let me go.
69 Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.
70 Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am.

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John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

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John 19:7 The Jevvs answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.

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1 John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
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IF Jesus is God Himself, then the phrase "Son of God" should not even exist.

God Himself has no need for the words or phrases...

"the Father"
"my Father"
"our Father"
"your Father"

God Himself wouldn't refer to His Kingdom as "the kingdom of God"...it would be "My Kingdom".

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Acquiring Salvation and eternal life is about...

1. Repentance
2. Faith / Belief (John 3:16)
3. Doing the Father's Will

These are the 3 key things Jesus said.

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Bible is not a "parable".

In reality, there is not one single shred of evidence OF ANY KIND that actually DISPROVES anything in the Bible.

Dozens of people AND hundreds of places mentioned in the Bible have been proven to exist.

Here's a 191 page free PDF of Biblical Archaeological finds.

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God isn't real? MILLIONS of folks would beg to differ with your claim.

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God...the Father..exists, as does His Son Yeshua.

The Bible covers 4000+ years of their interaction with mankind.

NOTHING you say will change these facts.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

Genesis 1: 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth

Philippians 2: 5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!

It’s all there. And clearly so if you’re willing to look. To be the son of the father, the second part of the Godhead, is truth. Jesus is God.

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Since WHEN does John's description and Paul's description OVER-RIDE what Jesus actually said?

THAT is where you folks FAIL to understand.

Thread: Son of God - Jesus' Relationship To The Father - John 17 and More - Bible Study

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

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You should add yourself to that list. You don't believe the bible either. You deny the OT and the clear words of your Jesus saying that you are lawless.

I "deny the OT"?

How?

I believe Jack Van Impe explains the Bible
as best as he can interpit from
The King James Version

Everything he said years ago is coming true.

40,000 sleeper cells years ago.
Probably doubled by now.

yes

Do you keep the laws of the J-ws that the J-wish god say are perfect, eternal, and to be kept by each person? Deuteronomy 28-30.

You're dead Jesus said that he would be turning away people for lawlessness and the laws weren't done away with.

You can't accurately quote the bible in English. It was not written in English and all English translations are flawed, some deliberately so.

My thoughts are as follows:

If you've been to a Bible Study and they were theologians

that had been taught at a credible school, you would

know those interpretations that had implicit meaning.

Some of the information is pretty straightforward.

Others have to be deciphered and there is a possible

'double meaning' where different views could be made.


The best teachers I have ever had the privilege of

witnessing was from Biola University...they opened

my mind to knowing what is truly inspirational!

At the end of the lesson every Sunday, I kept advancing

in my understanding.


You can also pray for discernment. That helps also...








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As a literalist I claim to understand that book fully. You can decide on the validity of that comment by visiting this thread of mine. (it is quite long but a little reading will show you the format I follow and you can decide if I am actually able of doing that or not.
Thread: Day of the Lord, literalist version.
Day of the Lord, literalist version.

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Yet the book you follow literally claims that your god isn't a man, no one can die for anothers sins, and that the laws of your god are perfect, everlasting, and to be kept by each man.

Are you really a literalist or just a Christian trying to claim to have the "truth"?

"So the disciples came and said to him: “Why do you speak to them by the use of illustrations?” 11 In reply he said: “To you it is granted to understand the sacred secrets of the Kingdom of the heavens, but to them it is not granted. 12 For whoever has, more will be given him, and he will be made to abound; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. 13 That is why I speak to them by the use of illustrations; for looking, they look in vain, and hearing, they hear in vain, nor do they get the sense of it. 14 And the prophecy of Isaiah is being fulfilled in their case. It says: ‘You will indeed hear but by no means get the sense of it, and you will indeed look but by no means see. 15 For the heart of this people has grown unreceptive, and with their ears they have heard without response, and they have shut their eyes, so that they might never see with their eyes and hear with their ears and get the sense of it with their hearts and turn back and I heal them.’ Mt13:10

How many were willing to identify the Beloved Disciple as Mary of Bethany, a Disciple of John the Baptist. That is the one big flaw that all share and not one of them will break that lie as it would bring it all crimbling down to dust

Yet John the baptist denied being Elijah, who was to come before the "messiah".

This is what was prophesied about accurate knowledge of the bible before judgement day;
"“During that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of your people. And there will occur a time of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation until that time. And during that time your people will escape, everyone who is found written down in the book. 2And many of those asleep in the dust of the earth will wake up, some to everlasting life and others to reproach and to everlasting contempt.
3“And those having insight will shine as brightly as the expanse of heaven, and those bringing the many to righteousness like the stars, forever and ever.
4“As for you, Daniel, keep the words secret, and seal up the book until the time of the end. Many will rove about, and the true knowledge will become abundant.” Da12

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This is where God lives with His wife, the Holy Spirit, and their son, Christ. Their home is the new heaven promised to the Angels that did not sin. When they are there they are given in marriage and have a perfected child like Christ is.

The 4 beasts in Re:4 woulde be the 'parents' of God and the Holy Spirit and Christ would be their grandson.
The people that are alive for the 1,000 yeas are not given in marriage and they act as shephers during the era of the new earth (about 40B years) and they will then enter Mount Sion and stay there and then they will be given in marriage and have a single child that is born perfected. That is when we are gods ourselves.

2Co:12:2:
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago,
(whether in the body,
I cannot tell;
or whether out of the body,
I cannot tell:
God knoweth;)
such an one caught up to the third heaven.

Heb:12:22-23:
But ye are come unto mount Sion,
and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels,
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
which are written in heaven,
and to God the Judge of all,
and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
1Jo:5:7:
For there are three that bear record in heaven,
the Father,
the Word,
and the Holy Ghost:
and these three are one.

Mount Sion is the heaven being mentioned.

Look at you, making shit up based on random verses to prove your point. Now do it again with just the OT, which is all the your dead man-god would have known.

No.

Ge:1 is God's witness of creation
Ge:2 is the Holy Spirit's witness of creation as views through Adam's eyes
This is Christ's witness of creation:
Proverb:8:22-36:
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way,
before his works of old.
I was set up from everlasting,
from the beginning,
or ever the earth was.
When there were no depths,
I was brought forth;
when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Before the mountains were settled,
before the hills was I brought forth:
While as yet he had not made the earth,
nor the fields,
nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
When he prepared the heavens,
I was there:
when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
When he established the clouds above:
when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
When he gave to the sea his decree,
that the waters should not pass his commandment:
when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Then I was by him,
as one brought up with him:
and I was daily his delight,
rejoicing always before him;
Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth;
and my delights were with the sons of men.
Now therefore hearken unto me,
O ye children:
for blessed are they that keep my ways.
Hear instruction,
and be wise,
and refuse it not.
Blessed is the man that heareth me,
watching daily at my gates,
waiting at the posts of my doors.
For whoso findeth me findeth life,
and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul:
all they that hate me love death.

This is going to show that the Beloved Disciple is a Disciple of John the Baptist that went with Jesus as soon as He came back from the 40 days in the wilderness. I'm going to go from where she and Christ are the only two beings standing on that mountain top. The verse shows who it is immediately and then compares her to new Jerusalem.
The first mention of a wife is at the time of the return. On the day the 7th trump sounds the two witnesses are resurrected and the people who see that are given less than 1 hour to get to the nearest horizon and the ones that make it before the fire starts remain alive as witnesses. Sodom left no witnesses and when God uses it to sent Satan and the fallen angels to the fiery lake the whole population see it before going to the 3rd heaven and the Great White Throne event.
The vials contain that fire and when all 7 are complete all sinners on the planet are dead and no sinner exists after that point in time. The population for the 1,000 years is a static one and the same ones alive at the start are the same ones that witness Satan going to the fiery lake. This group will reside in New Jerusalem in the New Earth and they will be the Shepherds (always one day ahead in knowledge about the Kingdom of God) and the ones that are resurrected at the GWT will be the ones living outside of the City.

Isa:51:6:
Lift up your eyes to the heavens,
and look upon the earth beneath:
for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke,
and the earth shall wax old like a garment,
and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner:
but my salvation shall be for ever,
and my righteousness shall not be abolished.

Re:19:1-3:
And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven,
saying,
Alleluia;
Salvation,
and glory,
and honour,
and power,
unto the Lord our God:
For true and righteous are his judgments:
for he hath judged the great whore,
which did corrupt the earth with her fornication,
and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.
And again they said,
Alleluia.
And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

Post judgment that comes with all 7 vials. Using the pattern established on the day of the cross the vials would be poured out between 1PM-3PM and then the 1/2 hour of silence (ends the wrath portion) and from 3:30PM-6PM the resurrection in Re:10 unfolds. Eze:37 gives the sequence and the end of the Gospel of John put the Beloved Disciple on a higher relationship with Jesus that Peter had.
The reference below is to the ones in the Re:20:4 list.

Re:19:4-9:
And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne,
saying,
Amen;
Alleluia.
And a voice came out of the throne,
saying,
Praise our God, all ye his servants,
and ye that fear him,
both small and great.
And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude,
and as the voice of many waters,
and as the voice of mighty thunderings,
saying,
Alleluia:
for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
Let us be glad and rejoice,
and give honour to him:
for the marriage of the Lamb is come,
and his wife hath made herself ready.
And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen,
clean and white:
for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
And he saith unto me,
Write,
Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb.
And he saith unto me,
These are the true sayings of God.

Re:21:9:
And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues,
and talked with me,
saying,
Come hither,
I will shew thee the bride,
the Lamb's wife.
Re:21:10:
And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain,
and shewed me that great city,
the holy Jerusalem,
descending out of heaven from God,

Re:1:9:
I John,
who also am your brother,
and companion in tribulation,
and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ,
was in the isle that is called Patmos,
for the word of God,
and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Peter's letter to the Beloved Disciple acknowledges that they were there from the beginning. Paul's letter acknowledges that it is to a woman.

1Jo:1:1-3:
That which was from the beginning,
which we have heard,
which we have seen with our eyes,
which we have looked upon,
and our hands have handled,
of the Word of life;
(For the life was manifested,
and we have seen it,
and bear witness,
and shew unto you that eternal life,
which was with the Father,
and was manifested unto us;)
That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you,
that ye also may have fellowship with us:
and truly our fellowship is with the Father,
and with his Son Jesus Christ.

2Jo:1:1:
The elder unto the elect lady and her children,
whom I love in the truth;
and not I only,
but also all they that have known the truth;

2Jo:1:13:
The children of thy elect sister greet thee.
Amen.

Joh:19:26:
When Jesus therefore saw his mother,
and the disciple standing by,
whom he loved,
he saith unto his mother,
Woman,
behold thy son!

Lu:24:10:
It was Mary Magdalene,
and Joanna,
and Mary the mother of James,
and other women that were with them,
which told these things unto the apostles.

Lu:10:38-42:
Now it came to pass,
as they went,
that he entered into a certain village:
and a certain woman named Martha received him into her house.
And she had a sister called Mary,
which also sat at Jesus' feet,
and heard his word.
But Martha was cumbered about much serving,
and came to him,
and said,
Lord,
dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone?
bid her therefore that she help me.
And Jesus answered and said unto her,
Martha,
Martha,
thou art careful and troubled about many things:
But one thing is needful:
and Mary hath chosen that good part,
which shall not be taken away from her.

That is not complete but it does show that Mary of Bethany was right in the thick of things as she saw more as she was there when John was not in prison and the Apostles were not there until John was in prison.

It's a good question but.... dd the good Lord ever promise that?

Promise what?

This is what the Lord promised for bible education in the last days
"“But know one thing: If the householder had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have kept awake and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44On this account, you too prove yourselves ready, because the Son of man is coming at an hour that you do not think to be it.
45“Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? Happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so! 47Truly I say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.' Mt24:43

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that my friend, refers to the rapture, which your CULT does not believe in

Your CULT also denies the divinity of Christ, have not since the day of Charles TAZE me bro' Russell

Philippians 2:10-11
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

I doubt I understand half of what I think I do, I am not a smart man.