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Freckle Face
(OP) User ID: 77689429 United States 09/23/2019 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Achduke7 Berkey filters $100/pair and quantity 2 five gallon buckets work great. The Upper bucket will need some small wholes drilled in the bottom to let the stem of the filters through. Berkey Backpacker model here, needs one filter. You can throw mud in it and get water lol I will post all I got for water later ok Or you could just use ash from your fire and sand. Has worked for thousands of years. Those filters gonna run out/gum up quick. Poncho hung up on all 4 corners and bucket under head opening. Collapsible 5 gallon container filled. Also boiling water. Awesome! We do have plenty of plastic ponchos here. |
MaybeTrollingUAgain
User ID: 75358302 Brazil 09/23/2019 08:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At least you did something, so kudos for that. In a real SHTF situation, eggs will better be hard boiled and pickled, flour for huntsman bread and meat, well, that's a luxury that will last a couple days only. And indeed, water is the main priority by far. I see people here and in some other places obsessed with guns, these are the ones that never done what you did. Find, purify and store water is #1. Much more important than guns, clothes and even shelter and food. Of course your experience is extremely valuable, most people never try a REAL thing. I mean, with a whole trailer of stuff, cars and all the modern stuff, doens't count at all. For the thing to be really worth it, get only what you can carry. And I mean YOU can carry, not your truck. MaybeTrollingUAgain |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51091434 United States 09/23/2019 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Achduke7 Berkey filters $100/pair and quantity 2 five gallon buckets work great. The Upper bucket will need some small wholes drilled in the bottom to let the stem of the filters through. Berkey Backpacker model here, needs one filter. You can throw mud in it and get water lol I will post all I got for water later ok Or you could just use ash from your fire and sand. Has worked for thousands of years. Those filters gonna run out/gum up quick. I will research this technique. Thank you very much for sharing this. Shit 6-8 months. I can dig it lol that filter could almost be brick and I would hit up a rock and get another 2 months. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77819637 United States 09/23/2019 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Had to buy water...... the system was down. Ive been looking at alternatives ever since that happened. Have not come up with a good solid plan yet. I have a river about 1/2 mile from the house; So that would dictate what I would implement. Even if you get ahold of a couple “water purification straws” and a hanging filtration bag, don’t wait too long. You need the water to sustain life. Berkey filters $100/pair and quantity 2 five gallon buckets work great. The Upper bucket will need some small wholes drilled in the bottom to let the stem of the filters through. BERKEY is the way to go. I use them at home with their filter system. Gravity feed and they come with a stainless device that the filter are mounted in. They filter everything out. Best tasting water I have ever had. |
Freckle Face
(OP) User ID: 77689429 United States 09/23/2019 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At least you did something, so kudos for that. In a real SHTF situation, eggs will better be hard boiled and pickled, flour for huntsman bread and meat, well, that's a luxury that will last a couple days only. And indeed, water is the main priority by far. I see people here and in some other places obsessed with guns, these are the ones that never done what you did. Find, purify and store water is #1. Much more important than guns, clothes and even shelter and food. Quoting: MaybeTrollingUAgain Of course your experience is extremely valuable, most people never try a REAL thing. I mean, with a whole trailer of stuff, cars and all the modern stuff, doens't count at all. For the thing to be really worth it, get only what you can carry. And I mean YOU can carry, not your truck. Such great thoughts. Thanks for posting them. Funny, as we were eating our eggs I was thinking about our chickens, realizing they might not make it all the way through a SHTF situation. So many thoughts, ideas, realizations this weekend. Time was slower too, or at least it seemed slower. Much to do though without the instant machines and electricity we are accustomed to. Typo edited Last Edited by Chicken and Waffles on 09/23/2019 08:09 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76457063 United States 09/23/2019 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Achduke7 Berkey filters $100/pair and quantity 2 five gallon buckets work great. The Upper bucket will need some small wholes drilled in the bottom to let the stem of the filters through. Berkey Backpacker model here, needs one filter. You can throw mud in it and get water lol I will post all I got for water later ok Or you could just use ash from your fire and sand. Has worked for thousands of years. Those filters gonna run out/gum up quick. Poncho hung up on all 4 corners and bucket under head opening. Collapsible 5 gallon container filled. Also boiling water. Bingo, but optimally you should filter and boil. Boiling doesn't get rid of say arsenic and filtering isn't effective against some microbes. And remember folks, you can't filter fallout contrary to public opinion. How do you filter a broken atom? Cleaner, sure. Clean enough that I mean gonna drink it? Not until last resort. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77819637 United States 09/23/2019 08:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous JD Berkey Backpacker model here, needs one filter. You can throw mud in it and get water lol I will post all I got for water later ok Or you could just use ash from your fire and sand. Has worked for thousands of years. Those filters gonna run out/gum up quick. Poncho hung up on all 4 corners and bucket under head opening. Collapsible 5 gallon container filled. Also boiling water. Bingo, but optimally you should filter and boil. Boiling doesn't get rid of say arsenic and filtering isn't effective against some microbes. And remember folks, you can't filter fallout contrary to public opinion. How do you filter a broken atom? Cleaner, sure. Clean enough that I mean gonna drink it? Not until last resort. Berkley filters viruses and bacteria to 3 or 4 decimals places. 99.9999 |
MKPitBull
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Freckle Face
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Achduke7
User ID: 69637911 United States 09/23/2019 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: paramedic Had to buy water...... the system was down. Ive been looking at alternatives ever since that happened. Have not come up with a good solid plan yet. I have a river about 1/2 mile from the house; So that would dictate what I would implement. Even if you get ahold of a couple “water purification straws” and a hanging filtration bag, don’t wait too long. You need the water to sustain life. Berkey filters $100/pair and quantity 2 five gallon buckets work great. The Upper bucket will need some small wholes drilled in the bottom to let the stem of the filters through. Thank you for this info. Looking them up now. The upper bucket will house the berkey filters. For convenience you could even put a water spigot on the lower bucket or just use a ladle. The upper bucket will contain the dirty water and the lower bucket will be the clean water. Achduke |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76457063 United States 09/23/2019 08:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous JD Berkey Backpacker model here, needs one filter. You can throw mud in it and get water lol I will post all I got for water later ok Or you could just use ash from your fire and sand. Has worked for thousands of years. Those filters gonna run out/gum up quick. I will research this technique. Thank you very much for sharing this. Shit 6-8 months. I can dig it lol that filter could almost be brick and I would hit up a rock and get another 2 months. Maybe for a single person, which is unlikely for a true shtf situation, but maybe. I mean our milspec filters were supposed to last years too. Less than 3 months in Iraq they were toast. |
Southern Soldier
User ID: 63788239 United States 09/23/2019 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good job. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69616836 Did you see shit tons of bean3rs in the nation parks? It's a disgrace to go camping these days, glad you had the guts to step outdoors tho. Keep in comms with us OP. We didn’t go to a park We camped in our own woods. One thing that surprised me is how much more water we need to get ahold of, or at least we need a couple different forms of water purification tools. We went through 3 to 4 times more water than we had anticipated. Drinking water, cleaning water, we simply need more water than expected, This is what I carry in My bag Op.. You can camp close to a water source if possible.. [link to www.portablewaterfilters.org] Southern Soldier |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76457063 United States 09/23/2019 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76457063 Or you could just use ash from your fire and sand. Has worked for thousands of years. Those filters gonna run out/gum up quick. Poncho hung up on all 4 corners and bucket under head opening. Collapsible 5 gallon container filled. Also boiling water. Bingo, but optimally you should filter and boil. Boiling doesn't get rid of say arsenic and filtering isn't effective against some microbes. And remember folks, you can't filter fallout contrary to public opinion. How do you filter a broken atom? Cleaner, sure. Clean enough that I mean gonna drink it? Not until last resort. Berkley filters viruses and bacteria to 3 or 4 decimals places. 99.9999 Microbes move, they don't settle. There also other kinds of microbes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51091434 United States 09/23/2019 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here I posted my gear Water. Water GO Berkey® Kit [link to www.berkeyfilters.com (secure)] The GO Berkey™ Kit can be used for biking or hiking or can simply follow you to the office or school. Small enough to fit in a limited space, like a backpack, and powerful enough to clean water pulled from nearby streams, the Go Berkey kit is optimal for emergency situations and physical activities where you need frequent, fresh, clean water. Seychelles 1-10403-28-HI-FC-S Water Bottle with Filtration System, Portable Filter Removes Radiation, Nuclear Contaminants and More, 28 oz. [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] Coleman Water Carrier, 5-Gallon [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77986159 United States 09/23/2019 08:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good for you! Years ago we tried a weekend of eating from our preps. One big pot of bean soup with spam. Made it only one day, not only do you tire quickly of the same awful tasting food but it really messes with your digestion, I was not prepared for that aspect |
Achduke7
User ID: 69637911 United States 09/23/2019 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Achduke7 Berkey filters $100/pair and quantity 2 five gallon buckets work great. The Upper bucket will need some small wholes drilled in the bottom to let the stem of the filters through. Berkey Backpacker model here, needs one filter. You can throw mud in it and get water lol I will post all I got for water later ok Or you could just use ash from your fire and sand. Has worked for thousands of years. Those filters gonna run out/gum up quick. I will research this technique. Thank you very much for sharing this. The the discovery channel series the colony where they filtered the LA river with the sand/charcoal technique. Achduke |
MKPitBull
User ID: 77436472 United States 09/23/2019 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Karma pinned for useful info. Many do not practice scenarios. My plan is to bug in shtf, but you must also be prepared if your domicile is hit in some way. Fire, flood, etc. you must have the capability of moving quickly to a secondary or third location. Also think about what you can load quickly in a vehicle , but also what you can load in packs if your vehicle/transportation is no longer viable. Learn land navigation using a topographical map and compass . Bring at least a handcrank SW radio( 20-30 bucks) so you have some sort of comm access that keeps you informed. You can go up from there on comms ( CB/ Ham) but at least have a way to hear info. Also, during a national emergency, you would not need a ham license to transmit, you don’t need any license just to listen. Quoting: MKPitBull Let me add to this, by the end of this month it’ll be illegal to buy certain ham radios online that function in certain frequencies. Get one while you can . A descent hand unit will run you about $50 "Be like water my friend”- Bruce Lee |
Achduke7
User ID: 69637911 United States 09/23/2019 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous JD Poncho hung up on all 4 corners and bucket under head opening. Collapsible 5 gallon container filled. Also boiling water. Bingo, but optimally you should filter and boil. Boiling doesn't get rid of say arsenic and filtering isn't effective against some microbes. And remember folks, you can't filter fallout contrary to public opinion. How do you filter a broken atom? Cleaner, sure. Clean enough that I mean gonna drink it? Not until last resort. Berkley filters viruses and bacteria to 3 or 4 decimals places. 99.9999 Microbes move, they don't settle. There also other kinds of microbes. I would still boil the water when all was said and done. Achduke |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51091434 United States 09/23/2019 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Coleman Folding Double Wash Basin [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] LOOGU Military Camouflage Rain Poncho for Outdoor Camping Hunting Hiking [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76457063 United States 09/23/2019 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... coffee ... pans ... pancakes ... hamburgers ... eggs ... stoves ... MRE ... Quoting: Freckle Face All will be things of the past. You won't be able to get any of those things anymore. You should practice how to kill with your bare hands, and get used to eating things raw. Hence my original fieldcraft statement. Should be training at SERE levels while your safe so that if you do have to go off grid it'll feel like field fun. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51091434 United States 09/23/2019 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76457063 Bingo, but optimally you should filter and boil. Boiling doesn't get rid of say arsenic and filtering isn't effective against some microbes. And remember folks, you can't filter fallout contrary to public opinion. How do you filter a broken atom? Cleaner, sure. Clean enough that I mean gonna drink it? Not until last resort. Berkley filters viruses and bacteria to 3 or 4 decimals places. 99.9999 Microbes move, they don't settle. There also other kinds of microbes. I would still boil the water when all was said and done. I agree. Least, very least in through three layers of clothing. |
Achduke7
User ID: 69637911 United States 09/23/2019 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76457063 Or you could just use ash from your fire and sand. Has worked for thousands of years. Those filters gonna run out/gum up quick. I will research this technique. Thank you very much for sharing this. Shit 6-8 months. I can dig it lol that filter could almost be brick and I would hit up a rock and get another 2 months. Maybe for a single person, which is unlikely for a true shtf situation, but maybe. I mean our milspec filters were supposed to last years too. Less than 3 months in Iraq they were toast. Even though it is probably not supported by berkey people have scraped the outer layers of the filters off with a potato peeler to give it more life after they are gunked up. Last Edited by Achduke7 on 09/23/2019 08:25 AM Achduke |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77300283 United States 09/23/2019 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Freckle Face We didn’t go to a park We camped in our own woods. One thing that surprised me is how much more water we need to get ahold of, or at least we need a couple different forms of water purification tools. We went through 3 to 4 times more water than we had anticipated. Drinking water, cleaning water, we simply need more water than expected, Yup. Our water was off many years ago for a week. I found out rather quickly that you need MUCH more than the 1 gallon per person per day that they say you need. Did you get more physical water? Or go with a filtration system? Had to buy water...... the system was down. Ive been looking at alternatives ever since that happened. Have not come up with a good solid plan yet. I have a river about 1/2 mile from the house; So that would dictate what I would implement. Boating dry bags to carry on poles. Berkey or other brand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51091434 United States 09/23/2019 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Karma pinned for useful info. Many do not practice scenarios. My plan is to bug in shtf, but you must also be prepared if your domicile is hit in some way. Fire, flood, etc. you must have the capability of moving quickly to a secondary or third location. Also think about what you can load quickly in a vehicle , but also what you can load in packs if your vehicle/transportation is no longer viable. Learn land navigation using a topographical map and compass . Bring at least a handcrank SW radio( 20-30 bucks) so you have some sort of comm access that keeps you informed. You can go up from there on comms ( CB/ Ham) but at least have a way to hear info. Also, during a national emergency, you would not need a ham license to transmit, you don’t need any license just to listen. Quoting: MKPitBull Let me add to this, by the end of this month it’ll be illegal to buy certain ham radios online that function in certain frequencies. Get one while you can . A descent hand unit will run you about $50 Got a link to good but cheap one? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75756784 Canada 09/23/2019 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Grabbed our bug out bags and set up camp in an out of the way place. We used no electricity, sorted out our individual jobs of who will do what if/when/as needed and it was a great learning experience. We made coffee a couple different ways with different pots/sources. We cooked an assortment of foods and discovered what pans work better for pancakes, which pans worked better for hamburgers, and other items. Not everything tasted great. Burned the first couple of eggs, then after a couple changes with our fire the eggs and other food greatly improved. We also used two different stoves besides the fire pit area. All in all we learned a lot.We took pleanty of notes. It definitely was worth it to get out of our comfy home and practice a little bit. The MRE “test” sure brought back a lot of memories. Quoting: Freckle Face I recommend everyone try to find a way to practice, master their survival skills before you need them. You never know what small item you’ll wish you had remembered to have with you when you can’t easily go grab it. Sure you did... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51091434 United States 09/23/2019 08:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: paramedic Yup. Our water was off many years ago for a week. I found out rather quickly that you need MUCH more than the 1 gallon per person per day that they say you need. Did you get more physical water? Or go with a filtration system? Had to buy water...... the system was down. Ive been looking at alternatives ever since that happened. Have not come up with a good solid plan yet. I have a river about 1/2 mile from the house; So that would dictate what I would implement. Boating dry bags to carry on poles. Berkey or other brand. Interesting setup and I see where you are heading. Large family? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51091434 United States 09/23/2019 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Grabbed our bug out bags and set up camp in an out of the way place. We used no electricity, sorted out our individual jobs of who will do what if/when/as needed and it was a great learning experience. We made coffee a couple different ways with different pots/sources. We cooked an assortment of foods and discovered what pans work better for pancakes, which pans worked better for hamburgers, and other items. Not everything tasted great. Burned the first couple of eggs, then after a couple changes with our fire the eggs and other food greatly improved. We also used two different stoves besides the fire pit area. All in all we learned a lot.We took pleanty of notes. It definitely was worth it to get out of our comfy home and practice a little bit. The MRE “test” sure brought back a lot of memories. Quoting: Freckle Face I recommend everyone try to find a way to practice, master their survival skills before you need them. You never know what small item you’ll wish you had remembered to have with you when you can’t easily go grab it. Sure you did... |