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Eat Less Red Meat, Scientists Said. Now Some Believe That Was Bad Advice.

 
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I think this was the most disturbing quote

“Irresponsible and unethical,” said Dr. Hu, of Harvard, in a commentary published online with his colleagues. Studies of red meat as a health hazard may have been problematic, he said, but the consistency of the conclusions over years gives them credibility.
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SOYBOY .gov agendas are so obvious...
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ANYTHING can be over done....moderation IS the key,
but meat and large amounts of veggies should not be consumed in one setting.
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Just be sure to change rooms while eating ... problem solved.
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What has never changed is each person must make the effort to engage in a balanced, OMNIVOROUS diet to achieve all 23 amino acids in their proper proportions.

Nobody ever implied to go off the deep end and go vegan or Keto, fasting or gorging. Common sense is just gone nowadayz.
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It did change, sadly, with the realization that gluten in wheat has become a problem.

modern wheat has the same name as older varieties, but the gluten content has been manipulated through the roof, with many other changes to make wheat more profitable.

so eating barley rye oats or wheat (all gluten foods) is no longer healthy.

it is a shame what has become of our food. Grains are the newest addition to the human diet.... go back to nuts meats eggs fruits!
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Yea, or it's the US practice of spraying the wheat with ROUNDUP before harvest. It dries the wheat and makes harvesting easier and higher yields, but hey, It's FDA approved.

Wonder why no other countries want to buy our Mon-Satan-o wheat?

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Yup.

Next time you are at the store look at the ingredients on every label.

Look at all the stuff that says "enriched" flour.

It's in so much.

Whatever they are "enriching" it with is the problem.
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I live by everything in moderation. So far so good.
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pretty soon they will be saying cigarettes are good for you (they are not)
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pick don't you have some kid to go vax?
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Don't you have some cawk to suck?
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You vaxxed your kid into retardism because you trust these people?

Aw how cute, he thinks they care about him and his tard offspring.
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my kids' shit is smarter than you.
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What has never changed is each person must make the effort to engage in a balanced, OMNIVOROUS diet to achieve all 23 amino acids in their proper proportions.

Nobody ever implied to go off the deep end and go vegan or Keto, fasting or gorging. Common sense is just gone nowadayz.
 Quoting: tkwasny


It did change, sadly, with the realization that gluten in wheat has become a problem.

modern wheat has the same name as older varieties, but the gluten content has been manipulated through the roof, with many other changes to make wheat more profitable.

so eating barley rye oats or wheat (all gluten foods) is no longer healthy.

it is a shame what has become of our food. Grains are the newest addition to the human diet.... go back to nuts meats eggs fruits!
 Quoting: beeches


Yea, or it's the US practice of spraying the wheat with ROUNDUP before harvest. It dries the wheat and makes harvesting easier and higher yields, but hey, It's FDA approved.

Wonder why no other countries want to buy our Mon-Satan-o wheat?

1dunno1


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 Quoting: Phillip J. Fry


Yup.

Next time you are at the store look at the ingredients on every label.

Look at all the stuff that says "enriched" flour.

It's in so much.

Whatever they are "enriching" it with is the problem.
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I go on rides through the countryside regularly.

In the past 3 years they started spraying roundup on Wheat, to get harvest two weeks early.

They just did it this past week, turning brown only where the spray went. The edge of the field is still green.

If you don't eat Organic you are definitely being poisoned and your poisoning is condoned by the FDA.
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It did change, sadly, with the realization that gluten in wheat has become a problem.

modern wheat has the same name as older varieties, but the gluten content has been manipulated through the roof, with many other changes to make wheat more profitable.

so eating barley rye oats or wheat (all gluten foods) is no longer healthy.

it is a shame what has become of our food. Grains are the newest addition to the human diet.... go back to nuts meats eggs fruits!
 Quoting: beeches


Yea, or it's the US practice of spraying the wheat with ROUNDUP before harvest. It dries the wheat and makes harvesting easier and higher yields, but hey, It's FDA approved.

Wonder why no other countries want to buy our Mon-Satan-o wheat?

1dunno1


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 Quoting: Phillip J. Fry


Yup.

Next time you are at the store look at the ingredients on every label.

Look at all the stuff that says "enriched" flour.

It's in so much.

Whatever they are "enriching" it with is the problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42079668


I go on rides through the countryside regularly.

In the past 3 years they started spraying roundup on Wheat, to get harvest two weeks early.

They just did it this past week, turning brown only where the spray went. The edge of the field is still green.

If you don't eat Organic you are definitely being poisoned and your poisoning is condoned by the FDA.
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When are people gonna figure this out ...

'THEY' are waging a WAR on YOU!
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Veganism is a religion.
When the log rolls over we are all going to die
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pick don't you have some kid to go vax?
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Don't you have some cawk to suck?
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You vaxxed your kid into retardism because you trust these people?

Aw how cute, he thinks they care about him and his tard offspring.
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my kids' shit is smarter than you.
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You seem quite triggered shill.
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Exactly right 0P. I’m 54 and eat a Paleo diet very close to Keto. I am in excellent health look great and have a lot of muscle. My fat levels are very low..
Telling people not to eat meat is the same agenda driven science that pushes sex changes,Global climate change, carbon problems, and the spihere earth theory.

Put your faith in God and the scientific method, not agenda driven pseudo science.
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Truth.

I am super healthy and strong, 7 decades, no illness and no drugs.

Meat, fruit, lots of nuts, garden veggies, cold pressed organic olive oil, and PURIFIED WATER.

Half glass of wine in evening!

Life is good.
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of course it was!

humans evolved to eat meat, the only thing available to prehistoric man year-round.

berries in season, nuts in season to be gathered.... eggs when birds were nesting...

only meat is available year-round.

glad to see this thread



grains were the LAST food humans consumed - they had to be cultivated
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And some people have problems consuming grains and end up with health problems as a result of it because they have not biologically evolved to eat grains. Just like some foods you don't feed your pets there are some foods you shouldn't be eating either.
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People who have problem digesting grains and other foods were 99% likely to have been C sectioned out.

People don't realize just how bad it is to be c sectioned rather than natural birth.
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please elaborate
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Yea, or it's the US practice of spraying the wheat with ROUNDUP before harvest. It dries the wheat and makes harvesting easier and higher yields, but hey, It's FDA approved.

Wonder why no other countries want to buy our Mon-Satan-o wheat?

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 Quoting: Phillip J. Fry


Yup.

Next time you are at the store look at the ingredients on every label.

Look at all the stuff that says "enriched" flour.

It's in so much.

Whatever they are "enriching" it with is the problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42079668


I go on rides through the countryside regularly.

In the past 3 years they started spraying roundup on Wheat, to get harvest two weeks early.

They just did it this past week, turning brown only where the spray went. The edge of the field is still green.

If you don't eat Organic you are definitely being poisoned and your poisoning is condoned by the FDA.
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When are people gonna figure this out ...

'THEY' are waging a WAR on YOU!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77331063


Spraying Carcinogenic Mon-Satan-o roundup on Mon-Satan-o GMO Wheat, Wot could go wrong?

1dunno1
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Dr Hu?, you mean Dr Who?.

And once again, is he not the son of Ape carnivore family?.

Why are sons of Ape teachings son of Man, let alone how to eat red meat?.. only batshit crazy and senseless fool of a spaceman would listen and believed that he is also son of Ape..
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Just stay away from mad cow cow
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Just stay away from mad cow cow
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Rachael?
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And Fuckashima destroyed all the Pacific Salmon stock.

fish
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I still eat meat though. Inspected grade A
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Don't you have some cawk to suck?
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You vaxxed your kid into retardism because you trust these people?

Aw how cute, he thinks they care about him and his tard offspring.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77331063


my kids' shit is smarter than you.
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You seem quite triggered shill.
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you sound like a foul mouthed keyboard warrior soyboy pussy
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Everyone should eat meat. That’s how all our ancestors ate as well.
AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!
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Yeah the crap they say is good for you will FUCK YOU UP. Eat lots of beets and spinach and you WILL get kidney stones. The only health problem I've ever had. Animal flesh is a superior food source because the animal's liver filtered out all that toxic crap from the vegetable matter it ate, and the cuts from its musculature are clean. I don't know about organ meats. I think that's meant for dogs and Scottsmen!
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My dad eats like they say you shouldn't and he's perfect health.

It's all based on genetics and luck.

Eat what your ancestors ate.

If your ancestors were raised on rice and vegetables stick to that.
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You vaxxed your kid into retardism because you trust these people?

Aw how cute, he thinks they care about him and his tard offspring.
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my kids' shit is smarter than you.
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You seem quite triggered shill.
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you sound like a foul mouthed keyboard warrior soyboy pussy
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No soy, very bad, mimics estrogen and makes you say stupid things like ...

"pretty soon they will be saying cigarettes are good for you (they are not)"
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Everyone should eat meat. That’s how all our ancestors ate as well.
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Nay, our first son of Man ancestor arrival had never eaten any meat, but the descendants ancestor did eat meat, and now we must reverse back to vegetarian then return back to Ascendant Master in a solar system with the right Suns suitable for son of Man that provide energy.

Unless you're talking about sons of Ape and Mankind's..
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my kids' shit is smarter than you.
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You seem quite triggered shill.
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you sound like a foul mouthed keyboard warrior soyboy pussy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61629722


No soy, very bad, mimics estrogen and makes you say stupid things like ...

"pretty soon they will be saying cigarettes are good for you (they are not)"
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You are dumb.

The cigarette post was on point.
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You seem quite triggered shill.
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you sound like a foul mouthed keyboard warrior soyboy pussy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61629722


No soy, very bad, mimics estrogen and makes you say stupid things like ...

"pretty soon they will be saying cigarettes are good for you (they are not)"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77331063


You are dumb.

The cigarette post was on point.
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You got a sock account? LOL!

desperate much?
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Blood group antigens dictate what's right for each type.
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Funny you should say that I just recently read an article related to this. Here is the link.

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My family has eaten a diet rich in meat. As I write this, my dad is next to me and about 1 or 2 days away from dying of an aggressive colon cancer.
My grandmother died of the same issue.
I’ve been a chef and nutritionist, unbiased in my research because I know about the marketing and propaganda of all these industries. It all comes down to knowing and understanding each ingredient at a biological and cellular compound level.

There is a proper way to cook and eat all foods, and most importantly, in moderation (I.e leafy greens should be blanched to decrease oxalic acid that cause kidney stones). The foods should be from a clean source and not too heavily hybridized. Fruit is good in the A.M. for water and vitamin replenishment. Vegetables in the raw form best in the afternoon for minerals. A light cooked meal in the evening that is easily digestible.

The goal is for food to be easily digested, nutrient rich, and bioavailable.

Meat takes a long time to digest and actually starts to ferment in our long digestive system. When you eat other foods either before or after (like fruit) that digest faster, they will also ferment on top of the meat, causing yeast build up and inflammation. This is where disease starts to happen.

All in all, a diet should be about nutrient density and cleansing for healing and energy.
If you feel tired after a meal, you’re not eating the right stuff. If you feel hungry a lot, you’re malnourished. If you’re fat and lethargic, you’re eating improperly.

Bottom line, All foods can be medicine or poison.

Bottom bottom line... do a regular fasting regimen to clean out the pipes and restart. Our bodies are complex machinery that we know only little about. But what we do know is that they need care and attention.

I’ll leave this here for moreinfo since not many people know about all the other chemical compounds found in meat other than the parroted “protein.”

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“The stimulant hypoxanthine, not any special properties of its protein, vitamins, or minerals is responsible for the satisfying and stimulating effects of meat. It is similar in chemical formula and effect as caffeine.

It has been known since antiquity that those who regularly eat meat experience some degree of enervation when they are deprived of this food for some time. This sensation that “something is missing” always results from abruptly removing meat from the diet, even when it is replaced with plant foods and dietary supplements providing as much or even more protein and nutrients as meat.

He goes on to say, “that the enervation that some persons experience when they stop eating meat products is not due to a lack of its protein or other nutrients that some consider irreplaceable. It is due to a type of stimulant found in meat. Today it’s known that the muscle cells of meat contain Hypoxanthine, which increases in concentration as the meat ages.

Hypoxanthine and other similar substances, such as inosinic acid and guanylic acid, are present in meat. They have a chemical structure similar to that of caffeine in coffee or the theobromine in cocoa, with similar effects. They are central nervous system stimulants. They are addictive.

Hypoxanthine explains the stimulating effect of meat and it’s capacity to create a certain level of addiction, which manifests itself when meat is given up abruptly. Because of this, it is recommended that those wishing to replace meat with plant-based foods follow a transition diet to help avoid the effect of sudden deprivation.
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Type O bloods are the original hunter gatherer types

Their genetics need meat or they become weak or lethargic
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My family has eaten a diet rich in meat. As I write this, my dad is next to me and about 1 or 2 days away from dying of an aggressive colon cancer.
My grandmother died of the same issue.
I’ve been a chef and nutritionist, unbiased in my research because I know about the marketing and propaganda of all these industries. It all comes down to knowing and understanding each ingredient at a biological and cellular compound level.

There is a proper way to cook and eat all foods, and most importantly, in moderation (I.e leafy greens should be blanched to decrease oxalic acid that cause kidney stones). The foods should be from a clean source and not too heavily hybridized. Fruit is good in the A.M. for water and vitamin replenishment. Vegetables in the raw form best in the afternoon for minerals. A light cooked meal in the evening that is easily digestible.

The goal is for food to be easily digested, nutrient rich, and bioavailable.

Meat takes a long time to digest and actually starts to ferment in our long digestive system. When you eat other foods either before or after (like fruit) that digest faster, they will also ferment on top of the meat, causing yeast build up and inflammation. This is where disease starts to happen.

All in all, a diet should be about nutrient density and cleansing for healing and energy.
If you feel tired after a meal, you’re not eating the right stuff. If you feel hungry a lot, you’re malnourished. If you’re fat and lethargic, you’re eating improperly.

Bottom line, All foods can be medicine or poison.

Bottom bottom line... do a regular fasting regimen to clean out the pipes and restart. Our bodies are complex machinery that we know only little about. But what we do know is that they need care and attention.

I’ll leave this here for moreinfo since not many people know about all the other chemical compounds found in meat other than the parroted “protein.”

[link to nutrientrich.com (secure)]
“The stimulant hypoxanthine, not any special properties of its protein, vitamins, or minerals is responsible for the satisfying and stimulating effects of meat. It is similar in chemical formula and effect as caffeine.

It has been known since antiquity that those who regularly eat meat experience some degree of enervation when they are deprived of this food for some time. This sensation that “something is missing” always results from abruptly removing meat from the diet, even when it is replaced with plant foods and dietary supplements providing as much or even more protein and nutrients as meat.

He goes on to say, “that the enervation that some persons experience when they stop eating meat products is not due to a lack of its protein or other nutrients that some consider irreplaceable. It is due to a type of stimulant found in meat. Today it’s known that the muscle cells of meat contain Hypoxanthine, which increases in concentration as the meat ages.

Hypoxanthine and other similar substances, such as inosinic acid and guanylic acid, are present in meat. They have a chemical structure similar to that of caffeine in coffee or the theobromine in cocoa, with similar effects. They are central nervous system stimulants. They are addictive.

Hypoxanthine explains the stimulating effect of meat and it’s capacity to create a certain level of addiction, which manifests itself when meat is given up abruptly. Because of this, it is recommended that those wishing to replace meat with plant-based foods follow a transition diet to help avoid the effect of sudden deprivation.
 Quoting: LuckyBolt


A bland basic meat, bread and potatos diet can get cancer.

You have to go spicy. Asians, Chinese, Mexicans esp. eat a lot of meat but they eat a lot of spice on everything, such as red pepper, jalapenos

Cancer cells hate spice. Its why you rarely hear of an Asian or Mexican with Cancer

Theres already been studies on red pepper repelling cancer
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Blood group antigens dictate what's right for each type.
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Funny you should say that I just recently read an article related to this. Here is the link.

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