Sukkot, Pope abomination and the 2400 days

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...we're in the middle of the 46th year of the 70th Jubilee ...
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Thank you for your comment.

I hope you dont mind if I ask, how did you come up with that number? It's my understanding that the Jewish people have lost count of the Jubilees. Probably due to being forced to give up reading their original scriptures when the Romans and Greeks translated the texts into the Septuagint and Vulgate and banned the reading of anything other than the translated versions of the originals.



Also, I think by your reckoning we are in the year 2396. The Jewish calender states we are about to begin the year 5780.

Although there are Biblical scholars that state there are missing years, somewhere between 160 to 240 missing years from the Hebrew calender.

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... I made a timeline from the creation of Adam/Eve to now ...
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... I started counting from the year the AIJ's left the wilderness and entered The Promised Land ...
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... at first I just did 50 years, 50 years, 50 years ... and then I realized that the 50th year of each Jubilee was actually the first year of the next Jubilee ...
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Well that's one way to look at it.

I cant wait for Yom Kippur to end so I can focus on finding another date that doesnt fit either. Another 3 days to go. Maybe I should set up a countdown clock.

I should also add the fact that Peoples Republic of China, the oppressive dictatorial regime, is celebrating it's 70th anniversary as we speak.

They are celebrating the annual Golden Week which coincides with the anniversary.

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From 1st Oct to 7th October.

Don't forget China's symbol is the red dragon.

This could also be more relevant than the 70th year of the formation of Israel who dont have the symbol of the red dragon.

Jeremiah 29:10;

New International Version
This is what the LORD says: "When seventy years are completed for Babylon, I will come to you and fulfill my good promise to bring you back to this place.


Jeremiah 25:12

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"But when the seventy years are fulfilled, I will punish the king of Babylon and his nation, the land of the Babylonians, for their guilt," declares the LORD, "and will make it desolate forever.

Do you know why you hate it? i think not! Let me explain for you.

GOD as shown in Genesis 1.....creates all things that die. Every person born does the same thing....as THEY learn what each and every thing is that they see and explore.

Gen 2 presents the LORD and never again does the GOD of creation be mentioned before LORD again,,,always Lord God when mentioned together. The LORD kills.....just like a person does as they sort that which they perceive to like from that which they do not....even hating people (same as killing).

Then we see JESUS mentioned and he shows US to lay down our own existence to gain LIFE. To stop killing/hating others and even things to death...and lay down our own expectations in existence to pick up our ability in LIFE.

THE OT IS A PARABLE OF YOU!

You must love yourself as your neighbor, friend and enemies.

The ego of LOGIC refuses this thought. So the OT is hated....it is a parable of the EGO of SELF ...the little serpent in the tree.

I said I would go over the video again and summarise the points. I've got as far as 17 mins which I will briefly outline:


He starts off quoting many Biblical leaders and scholars from Martin Luther to Isaac Newton who all wrote about how the Pope's position was that of the Antichrist.


Martin Luther 'We here are of the conviction that the Papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist (Aug 18 1520)

John Calvin 'I deny him to be the vicar of Christ who.... demonstrates by his conduct that his is Antichrist.

John Wesley 'exalts himself above all that is called God...claiming the prerogatives which belong to God alone.

Roger Williams (first Baptist pastor in America) 'Pope is the pretended Vicar of Christ on earth who sits as God over the Temple of God.'

John Knox also concluded the Papacy was the Antichrist as did many others including Isaac Newton.


He then goes on to explain how the Woman decked in Scarlet and Purple in Revelation 17 fits the description of the Pope and the Vatican.

The Bishops dress in purple and the Cardinals dress in scarlet. Vatican holds immense wealth and property.


Rev 17, the woman blasphemes God, ie the Vatican takes the place of God, claiming to be the Vicar of God.

The Woman Rules over the great city. In John the Revelator's time this was Rome.


Quote from Pope Leo XIII We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty.

I will try to summarise some more later.

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Just wanted to do a quick update in regard to Pope Francis. His inauguration began on 19th March 2013. My calculation was based on the day he was elected, 13th March 2013.

Which means his 2400 days will not be up until the beginning of Sukkot.

On 19 March, 2013, the Solemnity of St Joseph, Pope Francis celebrated Mass inaugurating his pontificate

Which also indicated to me that the 'week' in Daniel 9 is referencing the week of Sukkot.

The sun will still be in Virgo, ie the parable of the 10 virgins and the lamp.

Regarding Yom Kippur, I've no idea if today will be a significant day in any way but I can review this at the end of the day.

here's a sign for you. Adolph Hitler showing in the Sun on Yom Kippur October 9th 2019


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"Rabbi CON"

Anything to do with Hitler is worth keeping an eye on. The only problem is I cant see an image of Hitler, the picture is too small. I tried enlarging it but there arent enough pixels.

I did try searching for images of the sun but there were none that resembled Hitler yesterday.

Good post though.

I agree, I was focussing on Yom Kippur partly because of what he said concerning it's significance. I think we should be looking at Sukkot.

As I've added in the original post, Pope Francis will have been in office from the date of his inauguration for 2400 days when Sukkot starts.

The 'week' in Daniel's prophecy could be the week of Sukkot.

Daniel was told that the vision would not make any sense until the end, so he was to seal up the prophecy.

We'll know within a week either way.

I'm still thinking about this 2400 days.

Jesus pointed forward when he said 'when you see the abomination of desolation come, study Daniel's prophecy' (Matthew 24:15) and when you do this, you will see in Daniel 8:13 the question asked of how long this abomination would last. In Daniel 8:14 the answer was given: 'unto 2300 days and then will the sanctuary be cleansed [KJV] or justified, speaking of judgment.

Many scholars have discussed this number of days

The 2300 Days. —The angel declared, “Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.”

The question may be raised, Why does the Vatican edition of the Septuagint (LXX) render this number “twenty-four hundred days?”

I just wanted to double check that I'm looking at the right event. The Pope will be in office for 2400 days when Sukkot begins. That's a fact.

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Biblical Scholars were pointing to the Vatican as the Antichrist as it gives itself the power that only God has. This includes Isaac Newton who studied the Bible in his spare time.

Actually the Bible says The (main) Anti Christ will be a (one, singular), man.

It describes his lineage(Hebrew), his homeland (Assyria), his claim to be the Messiah,(which is a human male, who is also God) and many other things about him.

His desecration of the temple (which has not been rebuilt yet), is with a statue of himself, erected in the Holy Place, which will be worshiped as God (instead of the One, True God).

You really need to study the Bible rather than following, your vain imaginations or those of others!

Unless you can quote relevant verses or passages, you do not have a valid argument. You seem to be quoting doctrine that you have heard. I'm trying to put together facts.

It is a fact that the Pope will be in his position for 2400 days and the Vatican copy of the Septuagint says 2400 days.

And, dont forget, the number was taken out of all the scrolls found in the caves. I think someone is trying to hide something.

And also, if nothing happens, then maybe your theory has a better chance. It will only take a few days to see if this number has any relevance to the Pope.

Also, if you read Revelation 22, it clearly states that John the Revelator did not see a Temple. New Jerusalem is not a temple, it is more like a city.

Read the ending, to get the end picture.

I have mentioned Matt 24. That's where he said when you see the abomination, look at Daniel's prophecy. That's what I'm doing here. I'm looking at the number of days before the sanctuary is cleansed/restored, justified. (see how hard it is to find the right interpretation)

And as for Daniel 9: 26,27. It refers to a specific week. I think that week could be the week of Sukkot, which is why this Sukkot is so interesting.

You have to remember the old prophets celebrated the old feasts.

To you first point, if you do not know the Biblical facts surrounding the Anti Christ and his reign or purposely ignore them, then all your suppositions after that are BS.

The Pope does not meet the Biblical requirements for the Anti Christ and any decent Biblical scholar knows that.

Since there is no rebuilt Temple,(yet), your timeline is off.
Since there is no attack on Israel, no 7 year treaty, your timeline is off.
Which would have had to have been broken about 3 years ago with another attack and the conquest of Jerusalem and the rebuilt temple.

The Anti Christ cannot stop sacrifices occurring at a temple that does not exist, nor can he change the religious laws and holidays( ie. times and seasons) of a people(the Hebrews), that he has no control over.

How many facts do you need to see your error? Or are you so blind that you just can not see?

No matter how much you hate him and Catholicism, etc.

Your "facts are taken out of the whole context of the biblical subject, thus are not "facts", they as just part of the subject. but ones that you are distorting.

Okay, where to start.

I already pointed out that in Rev 22 it says there is no Temple, the temple is the lamb. You need to check this before talking about a rebuilt temple. Where does it say there WILL be a rebuilt temple. I have only seen this part where it says there is NO temple.

Secondly, I do not hate the Pope, I think he is just lovely. I cant imagine a nicer person. The view that the positoin of pope is antichrist is not my view. It is the view of many high ranking biblical scholars from Martin Luther to scientists such as Isaac Newton. They already worked it out, so I dont need to worry about that. I would never be able to work out who the antichrist is. I like most people and beleive God is the only one who can judge between good and bad.

If you have any 'decent' biblical scholars in mind, please list them by name. All the ones I found said the Pope is the antichrist. From hundreds of years ago it was accepted that the Pope is the antichrist.

Rev Ch 6;
2 I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.( where has the Pope ridden forth and conquered nations?
Where are the 10 (nations) horns of the Beast,(Rev 13) that he controls, then uses to attack Israel with?

12 I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, 13 and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. 14 The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.15 Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16 They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!
(signs of the The time of the Antichrist,)

Now jesus words:
like21:8 He replied, “Don’t let anyone mislead you. For many will come announcing themselves as the Messiah,[a] and saying, ‘The time has come.’ But don’t believe them! 9 And when you hear of wars and insurrections beginning, don’t panic. True, wars must come, but the end won’t follow immediately— 10 for nation shall rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, 11 and there will be great earthquakes, and famines in many lands, and epidemics, and terrifying things happening in the heavens.


So where is this happening? Where are the terrifying signs in the Heavens??????

You ignore to much Scripture, yet this is just a few verses relating to this.

the Holy Roman Empire has changed the times and the laws. They are responsible for the fact that the Jevvs no longer follow their Jubilee count and do not observe the laws required to be observed during the Jubilee.

Therefore, the Holy Roman Empire fulfills the description of antichrist. They changed the times and the laws, as mentioned by the Prophet Daniel.

I'm reposting this in case you miss it from a comment above:



I already pointed out that in Rev 22 it says there is no Temple, the temple is the lamb. You need to check this before talking about a rebuilt temple. Where does it say there WILL be a rebuilt temple. I have only seen this part where it says there is NO temple.

Secondly, I do not hate the Pope, I think he is just lovely. I cant imagine a nicer person. The view that the positoin of pope is antichrist is not my view. It is the view of many high ranking biblical scholars from Martin Luther to scientists such as Isaac Newton. They already worked it out, so I dont need to worry about that. I would never be able to work out who the antichrist is. I like most people and beleive God is the only one who can judge between good and bad.

If you have any 'decent' biblical scholars in mind, please list them by name. All the ones I found said the Pope is the antichrist. From hundreds of years ago it was accepted that the Pope is the antichrist.

Well you are mistaken.
People like you who did not know the Scriptures said the Pope/ Rome was the Antichrist. Yet more has been revealed and studied and it does not line up.
You are just to blind to see it.

Prophecy says the Anti Christ will stop the daily blood sacrifices(at the Temple) and stop all the religious observances of the Hebrews.
Which has not happened.

He will desecrate the temple with his statue,(no temple , no desecration). You can't get around that.

This Desecration closely is followed by the return of Christ to the mount of Olives.
( You can not get around the sequence of events/timeline of Scripture)
I could argue with you all day and show you hundreds of proofs from Scripture, but I can not waste that much time.

If you wanted to know the Truth or knew the Holy Spirit,(the spirit of Truth), you would not refuse the Truth, (you would recognize it) and not to continue to push your own agenda.
Instead your are promoting Falsehoods and are a Deceiver, a minion of Satan.

I missed refuting this Error!

Rev 22 is taking about Heaven, yes there will be no temple in Heaven. The End Times Temple in in Jerusalem, on EARTH!

1 Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations. 3 No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him. 4 They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. 5 There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever.
The context is Obvious, It is talking about Heaven, not Earth and not in the present Age.


However we are talking about the temple in Jerusalem, the one the Anti Christ defiles, keep to the context.

This is the same type of error as those who confuse the temple of the Holy Spirit,(ie the body), as replacing the physical temple of the End Times.
There are many different "temples" described in Scripture.

Okay, I'm going to try and argue the two posts above.

You say,
People like you who did not know the Scriptures said the Pope/ Rome was the Antichrist.

By 'people like me' I assume you are referring to all the Biblical scholars from Martin Luther to eminent scientists such as Isaac Newton, whose family were well versed in Biblical matters.

I am honoured to be compared to them.

You however have failed to name even one Biblical scholar although you make the claim there are some.

Further, you have not provided one verse to say there is a third temple when I have provided the ending of Revelation which says the temple was the lamb and God. No it is not in heaven, it is described as the New Jerusalem which John the revelator saw coming down from heaven.

You know, there is not very long to go to see if any of this actually happens, we can argue till the cows come home but facts are facts.

You need to look at how the Holy Roman Empire has destroyed the first and second temples, defiled everything that God holds sacred. They worship statues and idols when God says not to do that.

Your arguements lack any reference to scholars and relevant texts.



By the way, maybe you would like to make your own thread where you can say whatever you want. I probably wont bother arguing with you. I am just counting the days until the Pope has been in his position for 2400 days.

you can not cut out and reshape Scripture to fit your needs of "proof".
Daniel 7:25
He will speak words against the Most High and oppress the holy ones of the Most High. He will intend to change religious festivals and laws, and the holy ones will be handed over to him for a time, times, and half a time.

Prove where He has done all these things, Against the Hebrews, as that is the context.

Changing the Christian day of worship does not qualify, nor does anything affecting just Christians.

Now all of this, stopping the daily sacrifice, (which requires a Temple, ask a Rabbi),changing the laws and the religious observances of the Hebrews, must occur within the "time, times and half a time", time period or 3.5 years time frame.
All of which is during the End times and all the End times signs that I have identified in previous post must have occurred or be occurring in this 7 yr time period of tribulation.

And you can prove the Pope has done this in the last 3.5 years? That these signs and marvels in Heaven and Earth (Rev ch 6-7), are occurring, right now.

What you think the Roman Empire or the Pope, or the RCC, did in fulfilling prophecy, does not matter if it is not
within the Biblical timeline. It does not count.

End of story.

I think it matters that the Holy Roman Empire destroyed the temples, changed the Scriptures to suit their agenda and did not allow the Jevvs to read their own Scriptures. They were only allowed to use the ones provided by the Constantines and Justinians and whoever else thought fit to change the calenders.

How many changes were made in the calender by the way, from the Julian to the Gregorian, plus all the missing days and years in between. All done for the purpose of destroying God's people from obeying His laws. And hiding the end times which God provided a countdown to.

The poor Jevvs no longer follow their religion. They do not know when to follow all the laws relating to the Jubilees. This is serious for them. You have no idea.

This poor Pope might just be a pawn in this facade. I honestly cant speak for him. Only God can judge.

All I know is that Daniel said at the end of 2400 days, or so it says in the copy held in the Vatican. Very telling, dont you think? That must be when those in Judea are called to flee.

And we do know a war is starting in the Middle East, Israel has said they want to help the Kurds. Where is that going to lead this saga?