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Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?

 
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
The purpose of the 144,000 are to help administer in Israel.

Revelations is incredibly clear on this subject. So clear, that JW have to be called children of Satan for their blatant lies on that regard.

Things say what they say, and mean what they mean, not what you want them to mean.

For the rest of the world, administration falls to others, of which, Revelations is also clear of.

The 144,000 will be male virgins, with a set number from each of the tribes of Israel. Actual descendants.
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Will the 1 drop rule apply? It's not like there are 100% pure blood reubenites or gad items, anywhere. At some point in the thousands of years that have passed they interbred with non-hebrews. Even if you buy that there are gentiles that are actually somehow descended from the lost 10 tribes.. still they interbred at some point with someone non hebrew...
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The Kingdom of David/Christ is descended from Ruth a Moabite
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
The purpose of the 144,000 are to help administer in Israel.

Revelations is incredibly clear on this subject. So clear, that JW have to be called children of Satan for their blatant lies on that regard.

Things say what they say, and mean what they mean, not what you want them to mean.

For the rest of the world, administration falls to others, of which, Revelations is also clear of.

The 144,000 will be male virgins, with a set number from each of the tribes of Israel. Actual descendants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75875837


Will the 1 drop rule apply? It's not like there are 100% pure blood reubenites or gad items, anywhere. At some point in the thousands of years that have passed they interbred with non-hebrews. Even if you buy that there are gentiles that are actually somehow descended from the lost 10 tribes.. still they interbred at some point with someone non hebrew...
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The Kingdom of David/Christ is descended from Ruth a Moabite
 Quoting: Achduke7


Which according to your own book means David couldn't be a King.

Deut 23:3 No Ammonite or Moabite or any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD, not even in the tenth generation.
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
The purpose of the 144,000 are to help administer in Israel.

Revelations is incredibly clear on this subject. So clear, that JW have to be called children of Satan for their blatant lies on that regard.

Things say what they say, and mean what they mean, not what you want them to mean.

For the rest of the world, administration falls to others, of which, Revelations is also clear of.

The 144,000 will be male virgins, with a set number from each of the tribes of Israel. Actual descendants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75875837


Will the 1 drop rule apply? It's not like there are 100% pure blood reubenites or gad items, anywhere. At some point in the thousands of years that have passed they interbred with non-hebrews. Even if you buy that there are gentiles that are actually somehow descended from the lost 10 tribes.. still they interbred at some point with someone non hebrew...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78061124


The Kingdom of David/Christ is descended from Ruth a Moabite
 Quoting: Achduke7


Which according to your own book means David couldn't be a King.

Deut 23:3 No Ammonite or Moabite or any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD, not even in the tenth generation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25106814


He was also the Grandson of Boaz. Ruth was adopted into Israel.
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
The purpose of the 144,000 are to help administer in Israel.

Revelations is incredibly clear on this subject. So clear, that JW have to be called children of Satan for their blatant lies on that regard.

Things say what they say, and mean what they mean, not what you want them to mean.

For the rest of the world, administration falls to others, of which, Revelations is also clear of.

The 144,000 will be male virgins, with a set number from each of the tribes of Israel. Actual descendants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75875837


Will the 1 drop rule apply? It's not like there are 100% pure blood reubenites or gad items, anywhere. At some point in the thousands of years that have passed they interbred with non-hebrews. Even if you buy that there are gentiles that are actually somehow descended from the lost 10 tribes.. still they interbred at some point with someone non hebrew...
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The Kingdom of David/Christ is descended from Ruth a Moabite
 Quoting: Achduke7


Which according to your own book means David couldn't be a King.

Deut 23:3 No Ammonite or Moabite or any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD, not even in the tenth generation.
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The OT is a complete patio.
It's clearly fiction and clearly contradictory
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Will the 1 drop rule apply? It's not like there are 100% pure blood reubenites or gad items, anywhere. At some point in the thousands of years that have passed they interbred with non-hebrews. Even if you buy that there are gentiles that are actually somehow descended from the lost 10 tribes.. still they interbred at some point with someone non hebrew...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78061124


The Kingdom of David/Christ is descended from Ruth a Moabite
 Quoting: Achduke7


Which according to your own book means David couldn't be a King.

Deut 23:3 No Ammonite or Moabite or any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD, not even in the tenth generation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25106814


He was also the Grandson of Boaz. Ruth was adopted into Israel.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Still would have been a Moabite which is why the Talmud makes a special exception for just female moabites. The j-ws know there shits been fucked since Moses their cult leader died.
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?

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Will the 1 drop rule apply? It's not like there are 100% pure blood reubenites or gad items, anywhere. At some point in the thousands of years that have passed they interbred with non-hebrews. Even if you buy that there are gentiles that are actually somehow descended from the lost 10 tribes.. still they interbred at some point with someone non hebrew...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78061124


The Kingdom of David/Christ is descended from Ruth a Moabite
 Quoting: Achduke7


Which according to your own book means David couldn't be a King.

Deut 23:3 No Ammonite or Moabite or any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD, not even in the tenth generation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25106814


The OT is a complete obvious fiction.
It's only focus is heredity, and everything they do is about hereditary privileges without limits.
It's clearly fiction and clearly contradictory and the desert god has not seen fit to leave any objective evidence of these claims or those people making them.
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The Kingdom of David/Christ is descended from Ruth a Moabite
 Quoting: Achduke7


Which according to your own book means David couldn't be a King.

Deut 23:3 No Ammonite or Moabite or any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD, not even in the tenth generation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25106814


He was also the Grandson of Boaz. Ruth was adopted into Israel.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Still would have been a Moabite which is why the Talmud makes a special exception for just female moabites. The j-ws know there shits been fucked since Moses their cult leader died.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25106814


Ruth story is about intendec tribe instituted treachery and committing fraud for the sole benefit of the tribe already busy at work undermining others and enslavement or extermination of gentiles without limits.
THIS is the only priority.
THAT'S the only lesson.
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The Kingdom of David/Christ is descended from Ruth a Moabite
 Quoting: Achduke7


Which according to your own book means David couldn't be a King.

Deut 23:3 No Ammonite or Moabite or any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD, not even in the tenth generation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25106814


He was also the Grandson of Boaz. Ruth was adopted into Israel.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Still would have been a Moabite which is why the Talmud makes a special exception for just female moabites. The j-ws know there shits been fucked since Moses their cult leader died.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25106814


I do not follow the Talmud. In any case David was instituted by God as King.
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Which according to your own book means David couldn't be a King.

Deut 23:3 No Ammonite or Moabite or any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD, not even in the tenth generation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25106814


He was also the Grandson of Boaz. Ruth was adopted into Israel.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Still would have been a Moabite which is why the Talmud makes a special exception for just female moabites. The j-ws know there shits been fucked since Moses their cult leader died.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25106814


I do not follow the Talmud. In any case David was instituted by God as King.
 Quoting: Achduke7


So your god broke his own rules because a Moabite was to never enter the congregation. Again, the j-ws know this ... thus why they have a way to explain the contradiction away.
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He was also the Grandson of Boaz. Ruth was adopted into Israel.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Still would have been a Moabite which is why the Talmud makes a special exception for just female moabites. The j-ws know there shits been fucked since Moses their cult leader died.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25106814


I do not follow the Talmud. In any case David was instituted by God as King.
 Quoting: Achduke7


So your god broke his own rules because a Moabite was to never enter the congregation. Again, the j-ws know this ... thus why they have a way to explain the contradiction away.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25106814


there are contradictions in the bible ONLY if you take things out of context without further research

there are no contradictions in the bible

ruth was an Israeli living in the land of moab - ruth was not of moabite lineage

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"At once he came forward and took it out of the right hand of the One seated on the throne. 8 When he took the scroll, the four living creatures and the 24 elders fell down before the Lamb, and each one had a harp and golden bowls that were full of incense. (The incense means the prayers of the holy ones.) 9And they sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought people for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.” Rv5:7
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No usch thing happened DGN. You remain unwilling to look. God is not that bearded shit in the sky.. a PIECE of the FATHER is INSIDE YOU and you didn't anull a dammed thing did you beloved... This stupid "gawd" must be left behind so the REAL FATHEr can function thru his Father Knowing SONS... YOU DO OT KNOW THE FATHER. INSIDE OF YOU.. it shows. START there in meditation to ask for the truth.
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"It is finished."

Topping out

Topping out in southern Denmark
In building construction, topping out (sometimes referred to as topping off) is a builders' rite traditionally held when the last beam (or its equivalent) is placed atop a structure during its construction.

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He was a carpenter. Some places there is the custom of nailing the architect's plans to the highest point on a finished building.

"The stone the BUILDERS rejected has become [variously] the keystone of the arch, the head of the corner, or the foundation cornerstone."

There is a lot more that could be said, but I'm too lazy right now, and you're too unbelievably dumb!
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"It is finished."

Topping out

Topping out in southern Denmark
In building construction, topping out (sometimes referred to as topping off) is a builders' rite traditionally held when the last beam (or its equivalent) is placed atop a structure during its construction.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

He was a carpenter. Some places there is the custom of nailing the architect's plans to the highest point on a finished building.

"The stone the BUILDERS rejected has become [variously] the keystone of the arch, the head of the corner, or the foundation cornerstone."

There is a lot more that could be said, but I'm too lazy right now, and you're too unbelievably dumb!
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"dumb" Only meant for one person on this thread, and it wasn't DGN or Achduke.
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
The Israel of God is THE CHURCH, it is NOT the modern ethnostate called "Israel."

The modern ethnostate called "Israel" is completely and totally EVIL, and of satan.
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But...but...it was so easy to commit to without thinking
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Which according to your own book means David couldn't be a King.

Deut 23:3 No Ammonite or Moabite or any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD, not even in the tenth generation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25106814


He was also the Grandson of Boaz. Ruth was adopted into Israel.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Still would have been a Moabite which is why the Talmud makes a special exception for just female moabites. The j-ws know there shits been fucked since Moses their cult leader died.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25106814


I do not follow the Talmud. In any case David was instituted by God as King.
 Quoting: Achduke7


David is an unproven myth, as is and Solomon.

No evidence they existed in real life.

It's fiction.
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"At once he came forward and took it out of the right hand of the One seated on the throne. 8 When he took the scroll, the four living creatures and the 24 elders fell down before the Lamb, and each one had a harp and golden bowls that were full of incense. (The incense means the prayers of the holy ones.) 9And they sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought people for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.” Rv5:7
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And the anomaly, AKA God In the Flesh walking the Earth right now in real time is King over all of that you don't know the scriptures.
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
There's no covenant with a tribe of cutthroats, at least not with any god, demons, well that's a different matter.
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
You think that One Tribal mythical Drama story sums it up for all history and all places? hahahahahahahahahahahahaha Your world is VERY TINY
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
BECAUSE JEHOVAH MENT FROM THE BEGINING

FOR THE GENTILES TO BE GRAFTED IN TO THE JEWISH

"FAITH" !

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You think that One Tribal mythical Drama story sums it up for all history and all places? hahahahahahahahahahahahaha Your world is VERY TINY
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Why is because when something's bullshit anything can happen.

Does that answer your question satisfactorily, OP?
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Why is because when something's bullshit anything can happen.

Does that answer your question satisfactorily, OP?
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It's the best you can do.
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
The purpose of the 144,000 are to help administer in Israel.

Revelations is incredibly clear on this subject. So clear, that JW have to be called children of Satan for their blatant lies on that regard.

Things say what they say, and mean what they mean, not what you want them to mean.

For the rest of the world, administration falls to others, of which, Revelations is also clear of.

The 144,000 will be male virgins, with a set number from each of the tribes of Israel. Actual descendants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75875837


Will the 1 drop rule apply? It's not like there are 100% pure blood reubenites or gad items, anywhere. At some point in the thousands of years that have passed they interbred with non-hebrews. Even if you buy that there are gentiles that are actually somehow descended from the lost 10 tribes.. still they interbred at some point with someone non hebrew...
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Newsflash-There are no 100% Judahites either.
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
The purpose of the 144,000 are to help administer in Israel.

Revelations is incredibly clear on this subject. So clear, that JW have to be called children of Satan for their blatant lies on that regard.

Things say what they say, and mean what they mean, not what you want them to mean.

For the rest of the world, administration falls to others, of which, Revelations is also clear of.

The 144,000 will be male virgins, with a set number from each of the tribes of Israel. Actual descendants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75875837


Will the 1 drop rule apply? It's not like there are 100% pure blood reubenites or gad items, anywhere. At some point in the thousands of years that have passed they interbred with non-hebrews. Even if you buy that there are gentiles that are actually somehow descended from the lost 10 tribes.. still they interbred at some point with someone non hebrew...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78061124


The Kingdom of David/Christ is descended from Ruth a Moabite
 Quoting: Achduke7


and Rahab a Canaanite prostitute

and a slightly taboo relationship between Judah and Tamar his daughter-in-law
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
the 144,000 are not rulers or assistants in heaven

their "ministry" is on the earth
they are Tribulation period evangelists

12,000 from each of the 12 Tribes of Israel
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
the 144,000 are not rulers or assistants in heaven

their "ministry" is on the earth
they are Tribulation period evangelists

12,000 from each of the 12 Tribes of Israel
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I'm just mad ww3 hasn't started yet
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Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles?
the 144,000 are not rulers or assistants in heaven

their "ministry" is on the earth
they are Tribulation period evangelists

12,000 from each of the 12 Tribes of Israel
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Really, what does this say?
"Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who have his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. 2I heard a sound coming out of heaven like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder; and the sound that I heard was like singers who accompany themselves by playing on their harps. 3And they are singing what seems to be a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders, and no one was able to master that song except the 144,000, who have been bought from the earth" Rv14

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For fucks sake...Anyone buying into this Semetic death cult is a total fool and slave...
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"At once he came forward and took it out of the right hand of the One seated on the throne. 8 When he took the scroll, the four living creatures and the 24 elders fell down before the Lamb, and each one had a harp and golden bowls that were full of incense. (The incense means the prayers of the holy ones.) 9And they sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought people for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.” Rv5:7
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If I remember it correctly, you had an eviction notice rolled up in a scroll and told me to leave for two years.
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For fucks sake...Anyone buying into this Semetic death cult is a total fool and slave...
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Rodulf.... take another turn, work on your language then your illusive concept ok?
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