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User ID: 78064472 China 10/09/2019 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles? "At once he came forward and took it out of the right hand of the One seated on the throne. 8 When he took the scroll, the four living creatures and the 24 elders fell down before the Lamb, and each one had a harp and golden bowls that were full of incense. (The incense means the prayers of the holy ones.) 9And they sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought people for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.” Rv5:7 Quoting: DGN No usch thing happened DGN. You remain unwilling to look. God is not that bearded shit in the sky.. a PIECE of the FATHER is INSIDE YOU and you didn't anull a dammed thing did you beloved... This stupid "gawd" must be left behind so the REAL FATHEr can function thru his Father Knowing SONS... YOU DO OT KNOW THE FATHER. INSIDE OF YOU.. it shows. START there in meditation to ask for the truth. You are so deceived and quite gone in your wickedness, so lets see who's Word will stand , it wont be yours or the demonic lies of the orifice you drink from and lick your chaffed and chapped lips around, urinetania is demonic, satanic and you are possessed. You need deliverance, when you finally get tired of the degeneracy you get up to in secret, say aloud Lord YAHshua/Jesus , forgive me, i have lied, cheated stolen deceived and practised dark arts, forgive me of my sins , Saviour God, who died on the cross for me, and then confess that he is Your Lord God and Savior to others and you will be freed of the demons who inhabit torment you and attempt to torment others, amen Abba in YAHshua/Jesus name YAHshua the sound of His Name in English, YAH is short form of YHVH, Bible.PRAYERBOOK.Praisebook DOWNLOADs [link to www.docdroid.net (secure)] [link to pdfhost.io (secure)] [link to www.docdroid.net (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77541300 United States 10/10/2019 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles? 144,000 is a purely SYMBOLIC number. It represents saved people prior to the tribulation. The apostle Paul was the Apostle to the Gentiles. He was the first to preach Saved by Grace alone. His ministry began the dispensation of Grace. The dispensation of Grace ends with the Rapture and the begining of the Tribulation. The tribulations purpose is to deal with the un-beliveing j-e-w-s... that are stil alive. |
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(OP) User ID: 76673672 United States 10/10/2019 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles? 144,000 is a purely SYMBOLIC number. It represents saved people prior to the tribulation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77541300 The apostle Paul was the Apostle to the Gentiles. He was the first to preach Saved by Grace alone. His ministry began the dispensation of Grace. The dispensation of Grace ends with the Rapture and the begining of the Tribulation. The tribulations purpose is to deal with the un-beliveing j-e-w-s... that are stil alive. Who are the 'great crowd' that stand approved after the tribulation? Rv7:9 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78008605 10/10/2019 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles? Who revised the original covenant? It wasn't God who wrote the "original covenant" and it wasn't God who revised it. Guess who did all of this writing? Humans who invented God. Quoting: dogman17 There was NEVER any covenant. Its bullshit. There is no valid covenant that allows evil. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56585752 United States 10/11/2019 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles? 144,000 is a purely SYMBOLIC number. It represents saved people prior to the tribulation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77541300 The apostle Paul was the Apostle to the Gentiles. He was the first to preach Saved by Grace alone. His ministry began the dispensation of Grace. The dispensation of Grace ends with the Rapture and the begining of the Tribulation. The tribulations purpose is to deal with the un-beliveing j-e-w-s... that are stil alive. Who are the 'great crowd' that stand approved after the tribulation? Rv7:9 Great crowd: Trib survivors + saved resurected. Some comenators sugest that the 144k and the ggreat crowd are 2 discriptions of the same group of saved bekievers. The process of the "harvest" coulld account for the differences. 1. Sheaf / Wave offereing (Jesus + otherr resurected at same time), 2. Main harvest (Rapture) 3. corners (Trib survivors (ie Law regarding Harvest). I find this possiblity very intriguing but still leaves unanswered questions. BTW in answer to your original question, the Lord ofered salavtion to the Gentiles to make the J-e-w-s-s jealous when they rjected Christ says the bible. I |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5363976 United Kingdom 10/11/2019 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles? And it was given a meaning of non-israelite and non-Jxxw There is a big Lie being exposed. Romans 9:15 - a great Greek translation of this is: This man is my chosen vessel to carry my name "to the kings and sons of Israel in the nations" A far far cry from the usual translation which is down through translator bias Here, compare: This man is My chosen instrument to carry My name "before the Gentiles and their kings, and before the people of Israel. " Only one is correct. And the entire New Testament confirms the first to be correct |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5363976 United Kingdom 10/11/2019 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles? Your Bible was written by men, rewritten by men, translated into a multitude of languages by men, edited by men, and forced on other men by men. It is just a book, a very old book that started off as a collection of scribblings based on even older oral tradition, tales told around campfires. Put the book down. Quoting: Gemini Rising Why didn't you take your own advice?. Every last belief you wrote is just that - a belief. Who gave them to you? For what agenda did they give them to you? So you've been happily reading tons of books and/or viewing books aka shows and movies...and now regurgitate everything they taught you as your facts. What you allowed conniving men to do was substitute themselves and put down the actual one book that exposes them when given heavenly understand of what's in that book. |
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(OP) User ID: 76673672 United States 10/11/2019 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles? 144,000 is a purely SYMBOLIC number. It represents saved people prior to the tribulation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77541300 The apostle Paul was the Apostle to the Gentiles. He was the first to preach Saved by Grace alone. His ministry began the dispensation of Grace. The dispensation of Grace ends with the Rapture and the begining of the Tribulation. The tribulations purpose is to deal with the un-beliveing j-e-w-s... that are stil alive. Who are the 'great crowd' that stand approved after the tribulation? Rv7:9 Great crowd: Trib survivors + saved resurected. Some comenators sugest that the 144k and the ggreat crowd are 2 discriptions of the same group of saved bekievers. The process of the "harvest" coulld account for the differences. 1. Sheaf / Wave offereing (Jesus + otherr resurected at same time), 2. Main harvest (Rapture) 3. corners (Trib survivors (ie Law regarding Harvest). I find this possiblity very intriguing but still leaves unanswered questions. BTW in answer to your original question, the Lord ofered salavtion to the Gentiles to make the J-e-w-s-s jealous when they rjected Christ says the bible. I "Great crowd: Trib survivors + saved resurected." ??? The resurrection begins before the tribulation, and the resurrected are pronounced saved?? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74358802 United States 10/11/2019 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles? Shut up you stupid fuck. People like you are the reason religious idiot zealots do dumb shit like blow themselves up. Please go fuck off and die in isolation somewhere cold and damp... thanks. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56585752 United States 10/13/2019 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles? 144,000 is a purely SYMBOLIC number. It represents saved people prior to the tribulation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77541300 The apostle Paul was the Apostle to the Gentiles. He was the first to preach Saved by Grace alone. His ministry began the dispensation of Grace. The dispensation of Grace ends with the Rapture and the begining of the Tribulation. The tribulations purpose is to deal with the un-beliveing j-e-w-s... that are stil alive. Who are the 'great crowd' that stand approved after the tribulation? Rv7:9 Great crowd: Trib survivors + saved resurected. Some comenators sugest that the 144k and the ggreat crowd are 2 discriptions of the same group of saved bekievers. The process of the "harvest" coulld account for the differences. 1. Sheaf / Wave offereing (Jesus + otherr resurected at same time), 2. Main harvest (Rapture) 3. corners (Trib survivors (ie Law regarding Harvest). I find this possiblity very intriguing but still leaves unanswered questions. BTW in answer to your original question, the Lord ofered salavtion to the Gentiles to make the J-e-w-s-s jealous when they rjected Christ says the bible. I THE HARVEST The process of the "harvest" coulld account for the differences. 1. Sheaf / Wave offereing (Jesus + otherr resurected at same time), 2. Main harvest (Rapture) 3. corners (Trib survivors (ie Law regarding Harvest). I find this possiblity very intriguing but still leaves unanswered questions. Pre rapture Rapture Trib Great multitue and 144,000 may represent the same body of people. Expressed differently ie 6 vs half dozen. This is methodlogy best fits description. You can google the subject and read more if you wish. What is obvious though is that 144,000 is NOT LITERAL. |
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(OP) User ID: 76673672 United States 10/13/2019 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles? Great crowd: Trib survivors + saved resurected. Some comenators sugest that the 144k and the ggreat crowd are 2 discriptions of the same group of saved bekievers. The process of the "harvest" coulld account for the differences. 1. Sheaf / Wave offereing (Jesus + otherr resurected at same time), 2. Main harvest (Rapture) 3. corners (Trib survivors (ie Law regarding Harvest). I find this possiblity very intriguing but still leaves unanswered questions. BTW in answer to your original question, the Lord ofered salavtion to the Gentiles to make the J-e-w-s-s jealous when they rjected Christ says the bible. I THE HARVEST The process of the "harvest" coulld account for the differences. 1. Sheaf / Wave offereing (Jesus + otherr resurected at same time), 2. Main harvest (Rapture) 3. corners (Trib survivors (ie Law regarding Harvest). I find this possiblity very intriguing but still leaves unanswered questions. Pre rapture Rapture Trib Great multitue and 144,000 may represent the same body of people. Expressed differently ie 6 vs half dozen. This is methodlogy best fits description. You can google the subject and read more if you wish. What is obvious though is that 144,000 is NOT LITERAL. 144,000 is a specific number of those chosen to serve as assistant kings in heaven whether literal or symbolic, the great multitude is an unnumbered open invitation to inherit the earth and won't be known until after Armageddon; 'After this I saw, and look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. 10 And they keep shouting with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation we owe to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.” rv7:9 Last Edited by DGN on 10/13/2019 07:58 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77541300 United States 10/14/2019 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56585752 Great crowd: Trib survivors + saved resurected. Some comenators sugest that the 144k and the ggreat crowd are 2 discriptions of the same group of saved bekievers. The process of the "harvest" coulld account for the differences. 1. Sheaf / Wave offereing (Jesus + otherr resurected at same time), 2. Main harvest (Rapture) 3. corners (Trib survivors (ie Law regarding Harvest). I find this possiblity very intriguing but still leaves unanswered questions. BTW in answer to your original question, the Lord ofered salavtion to the Gentiles to make the J-e-w-s-s jealous when they rjected Christ says the bible. I THE HARVEST The process of the "harvest" coulld account for the differences. 1. Sheaf / Wave offereing (Jesus + otherr resurected at same time), 2. Main harvest (Rapture) 3. corners (Trib survivors (ie Law regarding Harvest). I find this possiblity very intriguing but still leaves unanswered questions. Pre rapture Rapture Trib Great multitue and 144,000 may represent the same body of people. Expressed differently ie 6 vs half dozen. This is methodlogy best fits description. You can google the subject and read more if you wish. What is obvious though is that 144,000 is NOT LITERAL. 144,000 is a specific number of those chosen to serve as assistant kings in heaven whether literal or symbolic, the great multitude is an unnumbered open invitation to inherit the earth and won't be known until after Armageddon; ..... said the follower of the self-admitted uninspired fallable group of men dispensing bad food for a few hundred years. Just sayin. Maybe..... Or Jesus + 24 elders (throne room scene revelation) = 1st fruits / sheaf/wave offering 144,000 = main harvest Chrurch body of Christ great multitude = tribulation survivors 'After this I saw, and look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. 10 And they keep shouting with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation we owe to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.” rv7:9 said the follower of the self admitted uninspired fallable group of men. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78078635 United States 10/14/2019 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles? Because your taking things out of context and trying to say a passage says something when it doesn't. The 144,000 help Jesus Christ rule Israel alone. Other rulers, for other nations, are selected. They will be required to make an annual pilgrimage. That is the reason why Christian's regard JW as a Freemasonry heretical cult. The Bible is incredibly clear, yet you keep insisting on lying and gaslighting us. The reason your stuck on the 144,000, is that was a core tenant of the JW faith. The other tenant was the false prophecies from the false prophet, that led so many Christian's into grave error. Own up to the fact that your in cult founded by a false prophet, and return to Christ. |
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(OP) User ID: 76673672 United States 10/14/2019 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why did God revise his original covenant for 144,000 from Israel to serve as assistant kings in heaven, and open it to gentiles? Here are the 144,000 chosen to serve as assistant kings with Christ after Armageddon removes the treasonous nations; "And I saw standing in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures and in the midst of the elders a lamb that seemed to have been slaughtered, having seven horns and seven eyes, and the eyes mean the seven spirits of God that have been sent out into the whole earth. 7At once he came forward and took it out of the right hand of the One seated on the throne. When he took the scroll, the four living creatures and the 24 elders fell down before the Lamb, and each one had a harp and golden bowls that were full of incense. (The incense means the prayers of the holy ones.) And they sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought people for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth.” Rv5:6 Last Edited by DGN on 10/14/2019 08:45 PM |