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The purpose of the two witnesses of revelation... one a king the other the high priest in the millennium!!!

 
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The purpose of the two witnesses is to usher in the davidic/ levitic kingdom after the age of grace has ended

The new age will be the levitic priesthood and davidic kingship which means the 2 offices have to be separate on earth. Who can fill these two positions? The two witnesses of course as one will come from the line of Judah the sceptre/kingly line and the other will come from the Joseph birthright line allowing him to be high priest ...1 chronicles 5:2...judah is the chief leader( king) but Joseph has the birthright......we know judah isn’t Jesus in this earthly scenario because joseph is higher than Judah being Joseph has the double portion birthright position and no one is higher than Jesus ....so we see these two are earthly realm separate office kingship and priesthood anointed....Jesus is heavenly realm melchelzedek order kingship/priesthood combined anointed

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The purpose of the two witnesses is to usher in the davidic/ levitic kingdom after the age of grace has ended

The new age will be the levitic priesthood and davidic kingship which means the 2 offices have to be separate on earth. Who can fill these two positions? The two witnesses of course as one will come from the line of Judah the sceptre/kingly line and the other will come from the Joseph birthright line allowing him to be high priest ...1 chronicles 5:2...judah is the chief leader( king) but Joseph has the birthright......we know judah isn’t Jesus in this earthly scenario because joseph is higher than Judah being Joseph has the double portion birthright position and no one is higher than Jesus ....so we see these two are earthly realm separate office kingship and priesthood anointed....Jesus is heavenly realm melchelzedek order kingship/priesthood combined anointed

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Yes, and maybe the 144,000 will be governor pairs, spread around the world?
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The blindness of people today amazes me....the word tells you it will be a davidic levitic kingdom in the millennium and people expect Jesus to rule a kingdom where kingship and priesthood are divided when his kingship priesthood is united into one person Jesus melchelzedek order ...Jesus can’t rule on earth but he can in heaven
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Jesus will be released by his father once man has done all he can to cleanse Earth. Read Enoch 1
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OH My you are so fooled.

The King is the Antichrist, the Wicked one and the High Priest pays obeisance to the Antichrist and causes all to worship him.

The two witnesses are God's anointed. They preach the truth of Jesus Christ Gospel and soon coming kingdom.

You better get this straight. You will split hell wide open with this garbage you spew.
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OH My you are so fooled.

The King is the Antichrist, the Wicked one and the High Priest pays obeisance to the Antichrist and causes all to worship him.

The two witnesses are God's anointed. They preach the truth of Jesus Christ Gospel and soon coming kingdom.

You better get this straight. You will split hell wide open with this garbage you spew.
 Quoting: TidesofTruth


When the 2 annointed arrive the age of grace will already be over ....the two anointed will rule the millennium...you are as blind as the jewish were to seeing Jesus’ age of grace 2000 year program ...wake up already...learn the rules of the realms of heaven and earth....the blindness or lack of study of this generation amazes me...the laziness...the lack of interest....no wonder the anti christ takes so many....the people don’t even study to see what is in the future and when that age is .....what and when it ends.....but hey the new iPhone comes out next year....no wonder so few make it!!!! They worship the created instead of the creator!!

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It's all a conspiracy that started over 1500yrs ago. Zionists shall NOT be our masters, they shall not lead the World and mankind shall not create the Holly Land.

They can fuck off and should try praying harder for the first appearance of their Messiah. If they think a nuclear war shall make him appear, they are fucking nuts!
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Re: The purpose of the two witnesses of revelation... one a king the other the high priest in the millennium!!!
It's all a conspiracy that started over 1500yrs ago. Zionists shall NOT be our masters, they shall not lead the World and mankind shall not create the Holly Land.

They can fuck off and should try praying harder for the first appearance of their Messiah. If they think a nuclear war shall make him appear, they are fucking nuts!
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There are 2 kingdoms...soon you will be united with them... don’t speak Negative of the one you will be soon united with.... unless of course you won’t be united with them because you are of neither of the two kingdoms..
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Re: The purpose of the two witnesses of revelation... one a king the other the high priest in the millennium!!!
People believe what they are trained because that is the easy way.....read the book the davidic levitic kingdom is coming back after Jesus takes his bride to heaven to rule with him from heaven and the two witnesses rule from earth... there is no possibility of Jesus ruling from earth with a levitic priesthood during the millennium.... and there is for 1000 years
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Those that put themselves above you with robes of authority and temples churches are to be avoided, they are not the way.
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Re: The purpose of the two witnesses of revelation... one a king the other the high priest in the millennium!!!
The blindness of people today amazes me....the word tells you it will be a davidic levitic kingdom in the millennium and people expect Jesus to rule a kingdom where kingship and priesthood are divided when his kingship priesthood is united into one person Jesus melchelzedek order ...Jesus can’t rule on earth but he can in heaven
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In the Millennium, Jesus is in the New Jerusalem with Father God and Lord of the whole world and King David is king over all Israel. So Revelation says. I think it’s Revelation.
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Re: The purpose of the two witnesses of revelation... one a king the other the high priest in the millennium!!!
The biblical narrative
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And I will grant authority to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for twelve hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth. (Revelation 11:3-4)
Both are able to devour their enemies with fire that flows out of their mouths. Also, they have power over the sky and waters and are able to strike the earth with plague.

After their testimony, the Beast overcomes the two witnesses and kills them. For three and a half days, the people of the earth celebrate the two witnesses' death (who have tormented them for three and a half years) and will not permit the witnesses a proper burial. After this time, God resurrects the two witnesses; their resurrection strikes fear on everyone witnessing their revival, and the two witnesses then ascend to heaven. In the next hour, a great earthquake occurs and kills 7000 men, destroying a tenth of the city


What I have learned on the subject
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What the bible tells us a witness is, basically acting sociopaths, is opposite to the idea of a witness as an observer. Revelation's witnesses are preachers for God.


The fact that they are actual preachers and not symbols of institutions or movements is indicated by the description of their clothing and behavior.

The miracles they will perform (destroying their enemies with fire, withholding rain, turning water into blood, and striking the earth with plagues) are similar to the judgments inflicted in the Old Testament by Moses and Elijah for the purpose of stimulating repentance.

both Moses and Elijah (perhaps representing the Law and the Prophets) appeared with Christ at the Transfiguration, the preview of the Second Coming

Their enigmatic description as "two olive trees and the two lampstands" is drawn from Zechariah 4:1–14.

Zechariah’s prophecy looks forward to the restoration of Israel in the Millennium. The olive trees and lampstands symbolize the light of revival, since olive oil was commonly used in lamps. The connecting of the lamps to the trees is intended to depict a constant, spontaneous, automatic supply of oil flowing from the olive trees into the lamps.
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Re: The purpose of the two witnesses of revelation... one a king the other the high priest in the millennium!!!
People believe what they are trained because that is the easy way.....read the book the davidic levitic kingdom is coming back after Jesus takes his bride to heaven to rule with him from heaven and the two witnesses rule from earth... there is no possibility of Jesus ruling from earth with a levitic priesthood during the millennium.... and there is for 1000 years
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Heaven comes to Earth with God during the Millennium. It sits beside Jerusalem. It is where the Bride lives.
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WTF are you crazies going on about?
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The biblical narrative
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And I will grant authority to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for twelve hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth. (Revelation 11:3-4)
Both are able to devour their enemies with fire that flows out of their mouths. Also, they have power over the sky and waters and are able to strike the earth with plague.

After their testimony, the Beast overcomes the two witnesses and kills them. For three and a half days, the people of the earth celebrate the two witnesses' death (who have tormented them for three and a half years) and will not permit the witnesses a proper burial. After this time, God resurrects the two witnesses; their resurrection strikes fear on everyone witnessing their revival, and the two witnesses then ascend to heaven. In the next hour, a great earthquake occurs and kills 7000 men, destroying a tenth of the city


What I have learned on the subject
----------------------------

What the bible tells us a witness is, basically acting sociopaths, is opposite to the idea of a witness as an observer. Revelation's witnesses are preachers for God.


The fact that they are actual preachers and not symbols of institutions or movements is indicated by the description of their clothing and behavior.

The miracles they will perform (destroying their enemies with fire, withholding rain, turning water into blood, and striking the earth with plagues) are similar to the judgments inflicted in the Old Testament by Moses and Elijah for the purpose of stimulating repentance.

both Moses and Elijah (perhaps representing the Law and the Prophets) appeared with Christ at the Transfiguration, the preview of the Second Coming

Their enigmatic description as "two olive trees and the two lampstands" is drawn from Zechariah 4:1–14.

Zechariah’s prophecy looks forward to the restoration of Israel in the Millennium. The olive trees and lampstands symbolize the light of revival, since olive oil was commonly used in lamps. The connecting of the lamps to the trees is intended to depict a constant, spontaneous, automatic supply of oil flowing from the olive trees into the lamps.
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I like this. hf
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OH My you are so fooled.

The King is the Antichrist, the Wicked one and the High Priest pays obeisance to the Antichrist and causes all to worship him.

The two witnesses are God's anointed. They preach the truth of Jesus Christ Gospel and soon coming kingdom.

You better get this straight. You will split hell wide open with this garbage you spew.
 Quoting: TidesofTruth


When the 2 annointed arrive the age of grace will already be over ....the two anointed will rule the millennium...you are as blind as the jewish were to seeing Jesus’ age of grace 2000 year program ...wake up already...learn the rules of the realms of heaven and earth....the blindness or lack of study of this generation amazes me...the laziness...the lack of interest....no wonder the anti christ takes so many....the people don’t even study to see what is in the future and when that age is .....what and when it ends.....but hey the new iPhone comes out next year....no wonder so few make it!!!! They worship the created instead of the creator!!
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WTF are you crazies going on about?
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It’s code, we are really trading weed recipes. Shhhhhh..... ;)
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Re: The purpose of the two witnesses of revelation... one a king the other the high priest in the millennium!!!
OH My you are so fooled.

The King is the Antichrist, the Wicked one and the High Priest pays obeisance to the Antichrist and causes all to worship him.

The two witnesses are God's anointed. They preach the truth of Jesus Christ Gospel and soon coming kingdom.

You better get this straight. You will split hell wide open with this garbage you spew.
 Quoting: TidesofTruth


Not to mention the two witnesses will be hated for preaching the truth of Jesus by all who worship the antichrist and beast. They can't be killed either and keep on witnessing. Imagine how that would torment those who are evil.

Witnessing is the equivalent of preaching in biblical terms.

They will most likely be Elijah and Enoch, as both were taken by God from Earth before death.

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Yeah, I have read a lot of different theories for their identities over the years and Elijah and Enoch seem to fit for me. Elijah because he’s sent before the great and terrible Day of the Lord and Enoch...... well, I always thought that since God really liked Enoch he would give him an extra chance to earn a lot of glory and rewards. It’s like God to do that. He’s cool that way. :)

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I thought it was clear frpmthe bible the 2 witnesses are the 2 men who were taken to heaven?
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I will say this. That is going to be some intense freakin witnessing! They’ll be calling out the AC and throwing him under the bus big time! Fire and plagues and wonder! I can’t wait to see that! Although it’s going to be so cool to be in Heaven for a while that we may not pay attention to Earth until we’re ready to ride out to the battle. Who knows? Darn I wish it would all get started already! Bless Father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
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I thought it was clear frpmthe bible the 2 witnesses are the 2 men who were taken to heaven?
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It’s pretty clear. hf to some. You know how it is, interpretations abound. ;)
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I thought it was clear frpmthe bible the 2 witnesses are the 2 men who were taken to heaven?
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It never mentioned that Elijah and Enoch were taken to Heaven by God. God simply took them from the Earth before death. Jesus mentioned only He was sent by His Father from Heaven. I'd think Jesus would known if Elijah and Enoch were in Heaven.

Edit: This is can be debated. It doesn't say they 'entered Heaven' (God's realm). It says 'heaven' (lower h), meaning above Earth, not God's realm. No one can enter Heaven (God's realm) except through Jesus, since He was the blood sacrifice to absolve us of our sins. That only happens on Judgement Day, when those whose names are written in the Book of Life ascend into Heaven (God's realm).

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I thought it was clear frpmthe bible the 2 witnesses are the 2 men who were taken to heaven?
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It never mentioned that Elijah and Enoch were taken to Heaven by God. God simply took them from the Earth before death. Jesus mentioned only He was sent by His Father from Heaven. I'd think Jesus would known if Elijah and Enoch were in Heaven.
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It mentioned literally.

“Let me inherit a double portion of your spirit,” Elisha replied.

10 “You have asked a difficult thing,” Elijah said, “yet if you see me when I am taken from you, it will be yours—otherwise, it will not.”

11 As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind. 12 Elisha saw this and cried out, “My father! My father! The chariots and horsemen of Israel!” And Elisha saw him no more. Then he took hold of his garment and tore it in two.
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OH My you are so fooled.

The King is the Antichrist, the Wicked one and the High Priest pays obeisance to the Antichrist and causes all to worship him.

The two witnesses are God's anointed. They preach the truth of Jesus Christ Gospel and soon coming kingdom.

You better get this straight. You will split hell wide open with this garbage you spew.
 Quoting: TidesofTruth


Not to mention the two witnesses will be hated for preaching the truth of Jesus by all who worship the antichrist and beast. They can't be killed either and keep on witnessing. Imagine how that would torment those who are evil.

Witnessing is the equivalent of preaching in biblical terms.

They will most likely be Elijah and Enoch, as both were taken by God from Earth before death.
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Witnessing also includes cleaning from demons those who deserve and who want to repent.
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The purpose of the two witnesses is to usher in the davidic/ levitic kingdom after the age of grace has ended


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The Two as The Law and The Prophets will Declare Jesus Christ Yeshua HaMashiach to Israel.
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I thought it was clear frpmthe bible the 2 witnesses are the 2 men who were taken to heaven?
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It never mentioned that Elijah and Enoch were taken to Heaven by God. God simply took them from the Earth before death. Jesus mentioned only He was sent by His Father from Heaven. I'd think Jesus would known if Elijah and Enoch were in Heaven.
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It mentioned literally.

“Let me inherit a double portion of your spirit,” Elisha replied.

10 “You have asked a difficult thing,” Elijah said, “yet if you see me when I am taken from you, it will be yours—otherwise, it will not.”

11 As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind. 12 Elisha saw this and cried out, “My father! My father! The chariots and horsemen of Israel!” And Elisha saw him no more. Then he took hold of his garment and tore it in two.
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I think you missed my edit.

Edit: This is can be debated. It doesn't say they 'entered Heaven' (God's realm). It says 'heaven' (lower h), meaning above Earth, not God's realm. No one can enter Heaven (God's realm) except through Jesus, since He was the blood sacrifice to absolve us of our sins. That only happens on Judgement Day, when those whose names are written in the Book of Life ascend into Heaven (God's realm).

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I thought it was clear frpmthe bible the 2 witnesses are the 2 men who were taken to heaven?
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It never mentioned that Elijah and Enoch were taken to Heaven by God. God simply took them from the Earth before death. Jesus mentioned only He was sent by His Father from Heaven. I'd think Jesus would known if Elijah and Enoch were in Heaven.
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It mentioned literally.

“Let me inherit a double portion of your spirit,” Elisha replied.

10 “You have asked a difficult thing,” Elijah said, “yet if you see me when I am taken from you, it will be yours—otherwise, it will not.”

11 As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind. 12 Elisha saw this and cried out, “My father! My father! The chariots and horsemen of Israel!” And Elisha saw him no more. Then he took hold of his garment and tore it in two.
 Quoting: TSPNS


I think you missed my edit.

Edit: This is can be debated. It doesn't say they 'entered Heaven' (God's realm). It says 'heaven' (lower h), meaning above Earth, not God's realm. No one can enter Heaven (God's realm) except through Jesus, since He was the blood sacrifice to absolve us of our sins. That only happens on Judgement Day, when those whose names are written in the Book of Life ascend into Heaven (God's realm).
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hf Indeed, your post appeared at the same time as my response
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Revelation 20:4-6
Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years

Jesus. On Earth. During the millennium. Reigning.

The end.





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