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User ID: 78071217 United States 10/10/2019 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for informing us of this - five stars. Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
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User ID: 77396442 United States 10/10/2019 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Air Tanker flew by 4 times dropping water where no fire was..and the fire fighters have just watched that fire spread from home to home, not helping protect any house. It was allowed to burn. Quoting: truthonthewind Implementing Agenda 21 Statistics are like a bikini, what they reveal is suggestive what they conceal is vital |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78042748 United States 10/10/2019 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Air Tanker flew by 4 times dropping water where no fire was..and the fire fighters have just watched that fire spread from home to home, not helping protect any house. It was allowed to burn. Quoting: truthonthewind My understanding is that air tankers don't actually drop stuff on fires, but on nearby areas to prevent a spread of fire. |
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User ID: 77354011 United States 10/10/2019 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Helicopters going like crazy. And trash trucks here don’t carry burning trash, they think we are dumb. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71088931 oh yeah, burning trash happens all the time......... untying the shoelaces of the internet one post at a time love tastes best from teal buckets go GIT in your STALL! a Spark does not fall far from the Torchie |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 55785116 United States 10/10/2019 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Air Tanker flew by 4 times dropping water where no fire was..and the fire fighters have just watched that fire spread from home to home, not helping protect any house. It was allowed to burn. Quoting: truthonthewind My understanding is that air tankers don't actually drop stuff on fires, but on nearby areas to prevent a spread of fire. ^ This |
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(OP) User ID: 34745261 Canada 10/14/2019 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Air Tanker flew by 4 times dropping water where no fire was..and the fire fighters have just watched that fire spread from home to home, not helping protect any house. It was allowed to burn. Quoting: truthonthewind My understanding is that air tankers don't actually drop stuff on fires, but on nearby areas to prevent a spread of fire. ^ This ok, still doesn't explain why they sat and watched homes burn. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74617722 United States 10/14/2019 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the house is in a designated burn area, then yes. They allowed them to continue burning & if igniting in a "controlled burn". Ignoring them completely. As one user pointed out that airdrops are to hit area locations. Not fires- Firefighters only have ? 'Xxx' amount of resources nationally. I am a retired wildland firefighter. They call us from multiple states to dispatch and provide 'EMEMRGENCY ACTIVATION'. THIS MEANS: Our company receives a contract from a fire dispatch client which takes account of an area with a wild fire. They acknowledge the perimiter, and existing threats to the area. A plan is formed on a national contract. This is a scale 1-5 event. Staffing is conducted and the team's are deployed. We create "fire lines". Digging out material, to create a gap so that the fire will remain in a "contained / "Designated" "burn area". (This is because we only have xxx amount of resources). Sometimes its 200guys on a 30mile fire. So resources are certainly short in demand. We can't risk a truck or 10 guys to save every house in Cleveland. We're just trying to save Cleveland and make it home to our wife's safely. It's a noble idea but you have to think, that were the only idiots driving into the fire. And by fire I mean (at times) 100ft walls of ginger lit dead foresting flames with only 1 entrance, trying to force an opposing force of Firey death from completely obliterating us or surrounding us on some mountain road which hasnt been serviced since the loggers built it in 1835. It's no wonder ten dudes aren't out there risking their asses off (like in the movies) risking a Fuck all 2 million dollar truck that the state only has 100 of to save those three houses... They were under mandatory evacuation several hours earlier. Roads were provided (some times at the costs of others lives) to allow your family an emergency exit). That's what you paid for- But if you think Im or we are Trying to save every home your an idiot, and if your in a designated burn zone you're an even bigger idiot for not assuming that we can't make you learn how this works from that position. So listen carefully op: this is how this works- Those houses are gone- they were gone since the fire jumped yhe burn line. A new sector was designed to (create a new burn line). Anyone near there is now evacuated including firefighters... Why? Because a route wind moving 20 mps can consume 10 acres In a second. The fire can jump the burnline and entrap entire teams of fire fighters and they can't do anything accept pray the fuel doesn't make them die- We keep a distance to preserve our resources too. Because if the fire trucks get into the inferno then the whole entire state can go up in a hot minute- We only have so many fire trucks on earth, an So very few wildland firefighters. Probably cause it's really easy to have a drunk crew boss getting an entire crew dead because they were trying to save that last house? Seriously, man this should be nothing more then a learning experience for you op. That shit shit on tv- That's why it's called programming- My advice is "if you hear there is a fire 30acres away. Check all roads for an absolute way out, and flee the area- Your playing ego against a force of nature, you can not overpower- Period- |
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(OP) User ID: 34745261 Canada 10/14/2019 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the house is in a designated burn area, then yes. They allowed them to continue burning & if igniting in a "controlled burn". Ignoring them completely. As one user pointed out that airdrops are to hit area locations. Not fires- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74617722 Firefighters only have ? 'Xxx' amount of resources nationally. I am a retired wildland firefighter. They call us from multiple states to dispatch and provide 'EMEMRGENCY ACTIVATION'. THIS MEANS: Our company receives a contract from a fire dispatch client which takes account of an area with a wild fire. They acknowledge the perimiter, and existing threats to the area. A plan is formed on a national contract. This is a scale 1-5 event. Staffing is conducted and the team's are deployed. We create "fire lines". Digging out material, to create a gap so that the fire will remain in a "contained / "Designated" "burn area". (This is because we only have xxx amount of resources). Sometimes its 200guys on a 30mile fire. So resources are certainly short in demand. We can't risk a truck or 10 guys to save every house in Cleveland. We're just trying to save Cleveland and make it home to our wife's safely. It's a noble idea but you have to think, that were the only idiots driving into the fire. And by fire I mean (at times) 100ft walls of ginger lit dead foresting flames with only 1 entrance, trying to force an opposing force of Firey death from completely obliterating us or surrounding us on some mountain road which hasnt been serviced since the loggers built it in 1835. It's no wonder ten dudes aren't out there risking their asses off (like in the movies) risking a Fuck all 2 million dollar truck that the state only has 100 of to save those three houses... They were under mandatory evacuation several hours earlier. Roads were provided (some times at the costs of others lives) to allow your family an emergency exit). That's what you paid for- But if you think Im or we are Trying to save every home your an idiot, and if your in a designated burn zone you're an even bigger idiot for not assuming that we can't make you learn how this works from that position. So listen carefully op: this is how this works- Those houses are gone- they were gone since the fire jumped yhe burn line. A new sector was designed to (create a new burn line). Anyone near there is now evacuated including firefighters... Why? Because a route wind moving 20 mps can consume 10 acres In a second. The fire can jump the burnline and entrap entire teams of fire fighters and they can't do anything accept pray the fuel doesn't make them die- We keep a distance to preserve our resources too. Because if the fire trucks get into the inferno then the whole entire state can go up in a hot minute- We only have so many fire trucks on earth, an So very few wildland firefighters. Probably cause it's really easy to have a drunk crew boss getting an entire crew dead because they were trying to save that last house? Seriously, man this should be nothing more then a learning experience for you op. That shit shit on tv- That's why it's called programming- My advice is "if you hear there is a fire 30acres away. Check all roads for an absolute way out, and flee the area- Your playing ego against a force of nature, you can not overpower- Period- Didn't watch the video i see....some homes look like they start from the inside, and those FF's stood not defending other homes..they just pretended to help the people, and the video shows it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78081018 United States 10/14/2019 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those who can't handle watching the raw video to see the FF's doing nothing..I am at 48% on an upload showing the video that nothing was done to help those homes. Quoting: truthonthewind They are saving homes always unless there is a threat to saftey. They are doing everything they can. Sometimes they are letting a home burn because it can't be saved. Only so many resources they can work with. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10724289 United States 10/14/2019 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like an senior mobile home park. They're mostly conservatives so they're not getting saved by our liberal fire fighters. Would you believe most homes burned in the last years were conservative owned? They were....Starting to figure out what's really happening out here? |
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(OP) User ID: 34745261 Canada 10/14/2019 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those who can't handle watching the raw video to see the FF's doing nothing..I am at 48% on an upload showing the video that nothing was done to help those homes. Quoting: truthonthewind They are saving homes always unless there is a threat to saftey. They are doing everything they can. Sometimes they are letting a home burn because it can't be saved. Only so many resources they can work with. one or two guys to a truck, and then just stand there not doing a thing, but let house after house burn down...that is doing everything they can? watch the video Last Edited by truthonthewind on 10/14/2019 07:04 PM |