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(OP) User ID: 77872280 Canada 10/13/2019 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you pretenitous patethic fucking morons, who the fuck is impressed by your garabge? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78072005 The mere mention of the bible disturbs your soul with demonic activity. Just admit that you are going to hell and there is nothing you will do about it what i've found to be true as well is that THE BIBLE also disturbs church folk who are not TRUTH seekers. we expect the unseeded ones to become spiritually challenged....but not those already in 'Abraham's bosom'...awaiting their travail.... |
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(OP) User ID: 77872280 Canada 10/13/2019 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | when there is a solemn remembrance with people gathered- usually someone speaking to the group says - “ now let us bow our heads in prayer & a moment of silence” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370427 perhaps something like that is going on in heaven one could say it is similar...... the FEW who make up the CORPORATE MAN ..... hold their SILENCE for an additional 20.83 years.....from 9/29/1999 then just look at The Revelation and look for those scriptures that mention MOUTH or anything concerning that which a mouth and tongue does.... NOW think WORD(s). |
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User ID: 78077146 United States 10/13/2019 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | when there is a solemn remembrance with people gathered- usually someone speaking to the group says - “ now let us bow our heads in prayer & a moment of silence” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370427 perhaps something like that is going on in heaven one could say it is similar...... the FEW who make up the CORPORATE MAN ..... hold their SILENCE for an additional 20.83 years.....from 9/29/1999 then just look at The Revelation and look for those scriptures that mention MOUTH or anything concerning that which a mouth and tongue does.... NOW think WORD(s). Why is 9/29/1999 the starting date? Achduke |
~Newton's Own~
User ID: 77801149 United States 10/13/2019 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Too many get caught up in the minutia and details, I once did too. Its really simple, love God with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself. That's it. A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once. Fear cuts deeper than swords. #Notmypresident. |
Fossy
User ID: 77859023 United States 10/13/2019 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Achduke7 I get 20.8333 years. 1 day (24 hours) is a 1000 years. 1000 years equates to 8,766,000 hours. A 24th(one hour equivalent) of 8,766,000 is 365,250 hours. 1/2 hr of 365,250 is 182,625 Hours. 182,625 hours equates to 20.8333 years. I know I could never be correct.I told you all the answer.20 years 9 months and 20 days the EXACT period between ww1 and ww2.Most of the judgments are over.We are in the 2nd last one of darkness.SPIRITUAL darkness.1 to go and that is the major one. The seeker is never NOT correct in searching out the hidden things. Seeing men as trees walking is better than seeing nothing.....seeing perfectly with 20/20 vision....MAN is seen for who HE is..... there is still a right answer and wrong answer but once again when I give the RIGHT answer I am obviously wrong again.I should become a pastor and ask for money and then ALL the Christians will give me money and want to hear.I should rehash the NONSENSE of THE ANTICHRIST and everyone will say how smart I am.I GAVE you the answer.The HALF HOUR was the period between ww1 and ww2.We are now on the SECOND LAST VIAL and then full on judgment. Hello Australia! :) that’s really, really interesting. It’s the first time I have ever heard it. It’s worth exploring and is anyone wrong? Yet? No one really knows, yet. It seems with God that he’s always surprising us. Making sammiches great again! USA! USA! USA! |
Fossy
User ID: 77859023 United States 10/13/2019 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Too many get caught up in the minutia and details, I once did too. Quoting: ~Newton's Own~ Its really simple, love God with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself. That's it. So right. But I do love the minutiae. Every time I see your username it reminds me of David Flynn. He always went by Newton on his forum. We sure miss him. Making sammiches great again! USA! USA! USA! |
Fossy
User ID: 77859023 United States 10/13/2019 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | when there is a solemn remembrance with people gathered- usually someone speaking to the group says - “ now let us bow our heads in prayer & a moment of silence” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370427 perhaps something like that is going on in heaven This is a good thought. It kinda goes with mine. :) Making sammiches great again! USA! USA! USA! |
Fossy
User ID: 77859023 United States 10/13/2019 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll try to make it short and quick Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76770632 Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Only God Himself is All Seeing and All Knowing The angels are not During the 1/2 hour of silence in heaven, the heavenly angels are receiving Visions from God, being updated on the situation Good thought as well, the 7th itself only opens up the Trumpet judgments and they are very involved. It’s a bit more simple than some of these other theories but there isn’t anything wrong with that. :) Making sammiches great again! USA! USA! USA! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27764172 United States 10/13/2019 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A day is equal unto a year. The silence refers to the time that Heaven -the universal government and all its host of Angels is emptied as the King of Kings come to this fallen world to take it back. That day that every christian waits for! Good protestant christians of old understood this prophecy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75583697 United States 10/13/2019 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Scripture.... Quoting: yesterdays dust Rev 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. i have never seen any person explain this scripture. Before i do and do so as it relates to NOW..... please take a moment to respond with your thoughts/ideas and HOW you arrive at your conclusions. i will i expect no less from YOU.... That you need the supposed thoughts or thinking of god is the beginning of your confusion. All babble contained in the cannot just be the rambling of a rewritten OT tales with addition of the gods it believes in. You first question should who wrote this? Of course we dont know who actually wrote much of the NT. That's a bit like saying some Indian named Patel wrote it. Who's John? We dont know. So why are you giving it any import. To hide this huge historical truth, the church fathers change babble into the "mysteries of the bible". Why would god makes wishes a mystery, confusing and incoherent in many passages. Before the sheep could read, the priests read it to them. Now that we can read it ourselves and reason the passages,we raise questions which causes the leaders,publicly, cant say unintelligible ramblings. Faith is belief with no good reason. That is true of the entire bible and the last few gods we have left. I cant explain one mythical tale when it's a entire book of mythical tales. There are hundreds of Christian sects, find the that spins it the way you like and you have found a home. Or reject the entire myth and live your life free of myths...or not. You might as well as if all Santa's reindeer can fly or just a few. The reason and logic you would use to debunk that tale can now be applied to all passages that your bible contains. |
Fossy
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27764172 United States 10/13/2019 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes there are hundreds of faiths but that most cursed name of all, is the only one that leads to life and gives the moral code, the commandments to live by. Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. So when you see that coexist sticker proudly hung on the back of some modern new age philosopher, you see a lie. It looks good on the surface, but the only way is Jesus himself. No Krishna, Budda, Mohamed,or god of science will save you. Only that King of Kings Jesus himself |
Fossy
User ID: 77859023 United States 10/13/2019 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A day is equal unto a year. The silence refers to the time that Heaven -the universal government and all its host of Angels is emptied as the King of Kings come to this fallen world to take it back. That day that every christian waits for! Good protestant christians of old understood this prophecy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764172 Oh my! I’m not sure if I have ever heard this before. That is highly interesting and it fits very well if the seals, trumpets and vials are concurrent. Plus it fits with my pre trib position. THANK YOU! I am going to study this. Bravo! Imho, the best answer yet. : hf: Making sammiches great again! USA! USA! USA! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76343671 United States 10/13/2019 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Scripture.... Quoting: yesterdays dust Rev 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. i have never seen any person explain this scripture. Before i do and do so as it relates to NOW..... please take a moment to respond with your thoughts/ideas and HOW you arrive at your conclusions. i will i expect no less from YOU.... the bible is a mess.. a whole lot of it is NOT explainable. The above makes no sense because Heaven is never ever silent to start with nor is anything. All moves from the molecular level on it.. the silence would mean non existence and heaven cannot go into non existence. if you read whatever this is in English.. it would mean the silence BEGAN in 1/2 hour... not lasted 1/2 hour. And was the measurement in TIME way back then done in HOURS to start with? you SEEM to desire to talk about The Bible ....i respect your desire....even if at this time you see as a negative battering ram. As you desire to enter this thread please explain your comment "The Bible is a mess" ...if you choose not to...continue..... and i'll call your thought that of a fools 'turkey' ..... if you expect that mentioning a name and YOUR opinion has anything to do with TRUTH or a thought producing conversation.... YOU ARE WRONG! proof.....in scripture....with scripture....and THEN your thoughts.... i will respond. otherwise.....your a turkey..... SEE..... claims of opinion matter nothing! It is like the fool above in this thread.... matters nothing! OP, these idiots are so predictable. They are Plastic Little Pew Sitters, who can speak only in terms of Churchy sounding aphorisms. And, they get do upset. Lol. |
Fossy
User ID: 77859023 United States 10/13/2019 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes there are hundreds of faiths but that most cursed name of all, is the only one that leads to life and gives the moral code, the commandments to live by. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27764172 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. So when you see that coexist sticker proudly hung on the back of some modern new age philosopher, you see a lie. It looks good on the surface, but the only way is Jesus himself. No Krishna, Budda, Mohamed,or god of science will save you. Only that King of Kings Jesus himself Yep! I wish you weren’t an AC. I would give you a link to my private forum so we could discuss these things. I like your insight. :) Making sammiches great again! USA! USA! USA! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76343671 United States 10/13/2019 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The verse is so full of relevance and DIVERGES in a multitude of ways, that the SIMPLE explanation just gives a hint--such as HUSH--HISS. It is more than just a hush, there is a hiss involved as well. THEN, the verse refers to a much more intensive view of what the SILENCE is all about. Quoting: Zerubbabel The COMPLEX view of what this "silence" entails is quite revealing in its fullness. It is as follows: (silence, i.e. a hush; prop. muteness, i.e. involuntary stillness, or inability to speak;and thus differing from 4602, which is rather a voluntary refusal or indisposition to speak, although the terms are often used (synonymously); to be dumb (but not deaf also, like 2974) prop.) fig. to be calm (as quiet water):--dumb, (hold) peace. This is just about the SILENCE. The half-hour aspect of this silence has several different points of view as follows: The word "hour" can also mean (figuratively OR literally: day, hour, instant, season, even-tide, high time. From OUR point of view, it can vary a great deal. From HIS point of view, it is a DISTINCT PERIOD that can and DOES span all periods mentioned under all possible conditions. Depending what comes BEFORE and what comes AFTER, it contains all possible outcomes because we are talking about GOD here. When something is ACCOMPLISHED by the Godhead, all of heaven, hell and everything in between takes pause. For some whose time-sense is different than ours, it could have lasted millenia. For others, a mere moment in time. The Scriptures are many faceted and cover simultaneous periods of time-separated by unimaginable processes. EVERYTHING IS RELATIVE as it must be. When we finally REACH that "half-hour" space/place/time, we will take our place IN IT. Do you actually TRY to talk a lot, and say nothing? Maybe it is part of your chatty little personality. |
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User ID: 77801149 United States 10/13/2019 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Too many get caught up in the minutia and details, I once did too. Quoting: ~Newton's Own~ Its really simple, love God with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself. That's it. So right. But I do love the minutiae. Every time I see your username it reminds me of David Flynn. He always went by Newton on his forum. We sure miss him. Maybe he was on to something, tongue in cheek. A coward dies a thousand times, but the valiant need taste of death but once. Fear cuts deeper than swords. #Notmypresident. |
Fossy
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TidesofTruth
User ID: 10577264 United States 10/13/2019 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means time is nothing to God. He lives outside of time and He created time for mankind not Himself. He is eternal, Alpha and Omega. Now as to the OPs question. Some things are not necessarily for our understanding now. We can speculate what that is but unless there is clear scriptural teaching we must just let it be and see. |
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User ID: 75758443 United States 10/13/2019 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Too many get caught up in the minutia and details, I once did too. Quoting: ~Newton's Own~ Its really simple, love God with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself. That's it. Silence in the face of evil is itself evil; God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. -Dietrich Bonhoeffer |
Sjah ki Kahn
User ID: 74563253 Netherlands 10/14/2019 04:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A day with the Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as a day is not a literal 1 day = 1000 years and vice versa. Quoting: TidesofTruth It means time is nothing to God. He lives outside of time and He created time for mankind not Himself. He is eternal, Alpha and Omega. Now as to the OPs question. Some things are not necessarily for our understanding now. We can speculate what that is but unless there is clear scriptural teaching we must just let it be and see. Actually I think it means both. Both interpretations are correct, the bible might be more accurate than you think. I AM THE LIGHT OF THIS UNIVERSE AND YOU ARE STANDING IN MY SHINE. REFLECT IMMEDIATELY OR SUFFER YOUR OWN DARKNESS. [link to twitter.com (secure)] [link to soundcloud.com (secure)] |
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(OP) User ID: 77872280 Canada 10/14/2019 05:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | when there is a solemn remembrance with people gathered- usually someone speaking to the group says - “ now let us bow our heads in prayer & a moment of silence” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76370427 perhaps something like that is going on in heaven one could say it is similar...... the FEW who make up the CORPORATE MAN ..... hold their SILENCE for an additional 20.83 years.....from 9/29/1999 then just look at The Revelation and look for those scriptures that mention MOUTH or anything concerning that which a mouth and tongue does.... NOW think WORD(s). Why is 9/29/1999 the starting date? FROM page 2 As one story, The Bible, is all about JESUS....all about YOU.....all about ONE MAN. That man has the condition of A Dam.....the great power of a stagnant body of water. We are that man......and have been as that man wandering in the 'desert' for 40 years....THE GENERATION. The Children of Is-Ra-El were 400 (10x40) years in Egypt.....and 40 (1x40) years in the wilderness. From Jesus to the end of 1999, 2000 years passed ( 40 x 50 ), 40 jubilees passed. 40 years were spent in the wilderness before entering the Promised Land. This 40 years was divided basically into 2 parts. Two parts of 20 years each. Num 14:29 Your carcasses shall fall in this wilderness; and all that were numbered of you, according to your whole number, from twenty years old and upward, which have murmured against me, Those under 20 or 19 plus wandered for the next 20 plus years .....for a total of 40 years before entering the Promised Land. In the NOW ......the PROMISED LAND ....is THE NEW AGE. The new age we know as AQUARIUS.... the GOLDEN AGE OF TRUTH. AND Man-kind was 19(99) years old as we saw the promised land...back in 1999/2000.....meaning 19 plus. Had we entered the NEW AGE/Promised Land of golden TRUTH we ALL would have been talking about it. Instead the MEN OF RENOWN (giants) who run the world made much noise and we/US remained SILENT. We were weighed in the balances and found wanting. Weighed as GOLD..... It was on Sept. 29, 1999 that the year 5760 was entered. The figure 5760 is how gold is weighed....as there are 5760 grains in a troy ounce of GOLD. GOLD as in Age of Aquarius AND more importantly TRUTH. The NJ of GOLD....our Mother from above. AND September 29, 1999 began the Jewish year 5760....we were as 19 plus.....19(00) plus 99, then. It is 20 years latter NOW as on Sept. 29, 2019 The Feast of Trumpets begins for a 2 day period. The Jewish year 5780. The 1/2 hour = 20.83 years .83 of a year is 305 days Remember 19 plus years wandered for 20 plus years to total the prophetic 40 year generating time period. The first day of 5780 is 10/2/2019..... 10/2/2019 + 305 days ends the 1/2 hour of silence....of 20.83 years. 10/2/19 plus 305 days brings US to the date of 8/1/2020. On 8/1/2020 the MAJOR Jewish Holy day is TISH'A B'AV, this is the day that the destruction of the 2 temples is observed.....the 9th of Av 5780. |