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(OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 10/11/2019 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The important question: do you think that torture works? In all applications, in case you are going to try to be clever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76585116 Works for what, dear? And on who? And with who in the room? And for how long? And also, what precise method of torture? I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76741668 United States 10/11/2019 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The important question: do you think that torture works? In all applications, in case you are going to try to be clever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76585116 They think so! Don't say anything never! They are my best buddies.. One day I prepare weed for them as the ceremonial cyberman shaman, introducing them to their quantum twinners under caring guidance of shamanic c2 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76741668 United States 10/11/2019 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The important question: do you think that torture works? In all applications, in case you are going to try to be clever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76585116 Works for what, dear? And on who? And with who in the room? And for how long? And also, what precise method of torture? In your own room (cell) ofcourse |
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(OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 10/11/2019 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The important question: do you think that torture works? In all applications, in case you are going to try to be clever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76585116 Works for what, dear? And on who? And with who in the room? And for how long? And also, what precise method of torture? In your own room (cell) ofcourse That sounds more like a dumb threat than an intelligent question. Not that I was genuinely expecting anything else (hence the title of this thread). Last Edited by TlvmmCpoft on 10/11/2019 03:21 PM I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
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(OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 10/11/2019 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The important question: do you think that torture works? In all applications, in case you are going to try to be clever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76585116 They think so! Don't say anything never! They are my best buddies.. One day I prepare weed for them as the ceremonial cyberman shaman, introducing them to their quantum twinners under caring guidance of shamanic c2 I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
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(OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 10/11/2019 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I'm glad the title at least got an emotional response out of a few instead of being completely ignored. It's good to keep those emotions on overdrive - good for someone's bottom line, anyway. But, I know most people would rather cry and whine at individual problems, rather than deal with - or even look at - the structure that guarantees those problems will occur. Last Edited by TlvmmCpoft on 10/11/2019 04:19 PM I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77449570 United States 10/11/2019 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have to consider as well, that much of that research is started and/or funded with a specific result in mind. They already know the answer they want, and they tailor the research to meet a predetermined course of action. There's dirty money all over & when grant season comes up every fall, there's stiff competition to get that cash. |
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(OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 10/11/2019 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last time I checked, MIT has never been steam rolled. Did this occur in your delusions? I do not even know where you are Brian, so no. You were talking about an MIT lab, not my location. Stay focused. When did you steam roll the MIT lab and is there any evidence of it? I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77700734 United States 10/11/2019 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I'm glad the title at least got an emotional response out of a few instead of being completely ignored. It's good to keep those emotions on overdrive - good for someone's bottom line, anyway. Quoting: TlvmmCpoft But, I know most people would rather cry and whine at individual problems, rather than deal with - or even look at - the structure that guarantees those problems will occur. Or even bother with someone else's problems |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3920163 United States 10/11/2019 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last time I checked, MIT has never been steam rolled. Did this occur in your delusions? I do not even know where you are Brian, so no. You were talking about an MIT lab, not my location. Stay focused. When did you steam roll the MIT lab and is there any evidence of it? Motherfucker, do you think if I had evidence of hacking the MIT lab that I would post it here on glp to a DOJ officer? This is not my first day in hell, I do not want to be here, and I invented crime. |
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(OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 10/11/2019 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have to consider as well, that much of that research is started and/or funded with a specific result in mind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77449570 They already know the answer they want, and they tailor the research to meet a predetermined course of action. There's dirty money all over & when grant season comes up every fall, there's stiff competition to get that cash. Indeed. And they know it would never make it past an actually controlled study, so they push the correlational research phase into the spotlight, knowing it is genuinely nothing more than establishing a hypothesis. Not a result. A hypothesis. For example.... A desalination plant is having trouble keeping salt levels low enough in the drinking water. So they fund a correlational study to show that it is sugar that increases hypertension. The scientists take some blood pressure readings and ask people in the water distribution area how much sugar they are eating. They find that people who eat more sugar do indeed have a slightly higher chance of hypertension. They don't look at the salt in the water because they just list water consumption under "water" in their survey. They don't make the connection that, while the sugar consuming group does tend to have a blood pressure level 5 points higher than everyone else, the people drinking the salt water have one that is 40 points higher. In fact, the only reason the sugar group is higher is because people who consume more dietary sugar tend to also consume more tap water to wash it down. they take their study to the mass media. The media writes it up as: "Scientists say sugar causing hypertension in water town." Sugar free products suddenly get a boost in sales. The desalination plant quits having to worry about lowing salt levels. No causational research is done. People die earlier than usual in that town. The end. Last Edited by TlvmmCpoft on 10/11/2019 04:36 PM I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
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(OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 10/11/2019 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I'm glad the title at least got an emotional response out of a few instead of being completely ignored. It's good to keep those emotions on overdrive - good for someone's bottom line, anyway. Quoting: TlvmmCpoft But, I know most people would rather cry and whine at individual problems, rather than deal with - or even look at - the structure that guarantees those problems will occur. Or even bother with someone else's problems Would they even know how to? Would they even be capable of it? Most times when people don't deal with problems it's because A) They've been given bad information B) They feel they are powerless to fix it C) They think someone else/the government will fix it D) They don't know how to fix it I have found if you give people very simple problems to solve that are within their control, and give them clear and concise instructions, in many cases they will help themselves as well as others. Last Edited by TlvmmCpoft on 10/11/2019 04:41 PM I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77700734 United States 10/11/2019 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I'm glad the title at least got an emotional response out of a few instead of being completely ignored. It's good to keep those emotions on overdrive - good for someone's bottom line, anyway. Quoting: TlvmmCpoft But, I know most people would rather cry and whine at individual problems, rather than deal with - or even look at - the structure that guarantees those problems will occur. Or even bother with someone else's problems Would they even know how to? Would they even be capable of it? Most times when people don't deal with problems it's because A) They've been given bad information B) They feel they are powerless to fix it C) They think someone else/the government will fix it D) They don't know how to fix it I have found if you give people very simple problems to solve that are within their control, and give them clear and concise instructions, in many cases they will help themselves as well as others. You just did by typing, and it only took a few calories |
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(OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 10/11/2019 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I'm glad the title at least got an emotional response out of a few instead of being completely ignored. It's good to keep those emotions on overdrive - good for someone's bottom line, anyway. Quoting: TlvmmCpoft But, I know most people would rather cry and whine at individual problems, rather than deal with - or even look at - the structure that guarantees those problems will occur. Or even bother with someone else's problems Would they even know how to? Would they even be capable of it? Most times when people don't deal with problems it's because A) They've been given bad information B) They feel they are powerless to fix it C) They think someone else/the government will fix it D) They don't know how to fix it I have found if you give people very simple problems to solve that are within their control, and give them clear and concise instructions, in many cases they will help themselves as well as others. You just did by typing, and it only took a few calories I'm not the average person. And don't get your panties in a bunch - that's not me trying to one-up you. I have simply never been bell-curve material. Try two standard deviations and you might be getting close. Last Edited by TlvmmCpoft on 10/11/2019 04:47 PM I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77700734 United States 10/11/2019 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would they even know how to? Would they even be capable of it? Most times when people don't deal with problems it's because A) They've been given bad information B) They feel they are powerless to fix it C) They think someone else/the government will fix it D) They don't know how to fix it I have found if you give people very simple problems to solve that are within their control, and give them clear and concise instructions, in many cases they will help themselves as well as others. You just did by typing, and it only took a few calories I'm not the average person. And don't get your panties in a bunch - that's not me trying to one-up you. I have simply never been bell-curve material. Try two standard deviations and you might be getting close. I like them huge |
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(OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 10/11/2019 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your observations are spot on. There is no better example than the farce being propagandised now about climate change! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78073749 Yeah. That's one. Unfortunately, everything gets mired in a research, media, and reaction structure that, by its nature, creates an inaccurate mess, thus creating a world that is equally a mess. Last Edited by TlvmmCpoft on 10/11/2019 05:05 PM I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77963696 United States 10/11/2019 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sometimes, the game is just not stacked in your favor. Quoting: TlvmmCpoft In research circles, we know that correlation is not causation, and we clearly note which we are talking about when presenting our research in professional journals. Correlation means there's a chance in hell something might be related, but causational research is needed to find out if it is. Causation means there's a direct connection and that one thing does seem to have an effect on the other in a controlled setting. However, the standardized professional writing manuals and styles of the APA (psychological writing), as well as MLA (frequently used in news writing), among others, do not allow for the level of uncertainty that correlation implies. They need to show certainty. But, instead of sticking to subjects in which they can actually be certain, they falsely report correlational research as fact: "this research study proves." This goes out to the public, and it also becomes the research affirming the need for public policy changes as well as industry standards and products. The end result? A world in which shit research that does not even claim that it is valid becomes the basis on which decisions are made regarding what's in the air you inhale, the foods you eat, the ingredients in your shampoo, what your children are taught, and what your government imposes. There is a systematic failure and we can all see the results. The problem at the very fundament of our society that has created this slow motion trainwreck is education. The way we teach kids is wrong, they grow up associating education with the wrong things and approaching it in the wrong light, results are lauded above effective curricula and age-appropriate study, and in the end most public and often private schools are more social boot camp than places of intellectual instruction. Like almost everything else in Western culture, education has been approached as an industrial business: in the end you get unmotivated students that work under a lack of respect for the real process of determining the truth as opposed to getting a given conclusion. This is a generalization, but as a rule it has profound effects on society, from climatology to - as in your case - understanding of what we're putting into our bodies and exposing ourselves to. It may be too late: the issue gets so little attention in favor of end-result practices like 'protesting for climate change' and research for the purpose of advertising that we may not have time to pull back before our bad habits end us. When money is regarded as a central pillar of society and given precedence over the standard tenets such as education, obligation to democracy and due diligence, money will continue to dictate the trajectory of that society right up to and over the cliff of self-sabotage in its name. We have to begin again at the bottom and change the way that citizens and children are taught, both about practicable phenomena like self-governance and about more abstract ideas like proper scientific process, language, politics, ethics and so on. Is there time for that? It's hard to say, but until society suffers a major breakdown (and the causes are properly identified), the chances of changing anything fundamental about it are slim. Misprioritization combined with the technical ability to create and use chemicals for short-term purposes can and will end in a world swamped in long-term consequences. Only a fundamental pole shift can change a world like ours: we've followed the penny-piper as far as the river, and unless the spell is broken we'll have no option but to pile in and drown. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77700734 United States 10/11/2019 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your observations are spot on. There is no better example than the farce being propagandised now about climate change! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78073749 Yeah. That's one. Unfortunately, everything gets mired in a research, media, and reaction structure that, by its nature, creates an inaccurate mess, thus creating a world that is equally a mess. Like if the earth if round or not |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3920163 United States 10/11/2019 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your observations are spot on. There is no better example than the farce being propagandised now about climate change! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78073749 Yeah. That's one. Unfortunately, everything gets mired in a research, media, and reaction structure that, by its nature, creates an inaccurate mess, thus creating a world that is equally a mess. Like if the earth if round or not Let's play a game called guess who is on what planet. What planet do you think that you are on, and define the word 'planet'. |