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WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON???? California Shutting Down Ham Radio Networks Despite Recent Wildfires, Blackouts

 
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TPTB can pull the plug on phones and internet very easily anytime they need to but ham radio is more of a problem for them. When the SHTF they do not want people to be able to communicate and organize... Take this as a sign that there is not long to go.
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Maybe they don’t want them heating about the power outage and fires?
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Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance!

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Mabe Fatman Jones is right they are preparing

for a Chinese invasion and democrats are a huge part of it
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Mabe Fatman Jones is right they are preparing

for a Chinese invasion and democrats are a huge part of it
 Quoting: Jake


the democrats are traitors fair and square.
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Mabe Fatman Jones is right they are preparing

for a Chinese invasion and democrats are a huge part of it
 Quoting: Jake


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Combine with their new gun laws...

Californians are running out of freedom in a hurry.


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even if this goes thru and many vhf/uhf repeaters are removed from mountaintops

ham radio operators those most advanced ones -not idiots with baofeng handhelds can still communicate with same locations using lower frequencies (HF) and Near Vertical Incidence Skywave methods where signals are transmitted straight up and bounced back by the ionosphere even when long distance propagation is absent due to lack of sunspots
this will require much more skill and operational know how than just pressing a button on a handheld set to use a repeater but is still doable

this move by the state is egregious and mind numbing however there are a few problem areas that need to be talked about

There exists an extensive network of ham repeater owners usually retired state employees with 'contacts' who have benefited by installing their own "PRIVATE" repeater systems at prime locations. these contacts allow them to not pay space rental fees under the pretext that the repeater will be used in some kind of emergency. many of these people are involved in the power structure of local emergency communication organizations run by cities, counties and the state

These repeaters are listed as PRIVATE in repeater books and the owners do not allow regular hams to use them for normal communications (this is allowed by the fcc rules) this happens because there are always selfish and egotistical people in any community and because some must feel dysfunctionally superior by having this resource and making it unavailable to others - I guess
Their excuse is- we paid for it and we're under no obligation to allow others to use them

99% of these repeaters sit quiet and unused 99% of the time just occupying coordinated frequency pairs not allowing other hams to put up their own repeaters without obtaining coordination for the pair (each repeater uses 2 frequencies input and output and a ham coordinating body assigns pairs based on geographical coverage area to limit interference)

regardless of the silly "private repeater networks this move by the state is going to hurt regular people and the ability to communicate in emergencies as great most ham repeaters are open for anyone for free and a priceless resource for all.
usually those repeaters are maintained by clubs or private individuals who could never afford to pay ridiculous proposed fees
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Mabe Fatman Jones is right they are preparing

for a Chinese invasion and democrats are a huge part of it
 Quoting: Jake


the democrats are traitors fair and square.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76678898


Why do you think they want your AR-15's

Its the only weapon that could defend against a foreign invasion.


It is also the gun with the least amount of kills in the USA
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TPTB can pull the plug on phones and internet very easily anytime they need to but ham radio is more of a problem for them. When the SHTF they do not want people to be able to communicate and organize... Take this as a sign that there is not long to go.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78073667


Maybe they don’t want them heating about the power outage and fires?
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Well since it comes less than 2 weeks since the sale of cheap 2 way radios was banned, I am thinking it is looking more like an attack on independent comms.
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Mabe Fatman Jones is right they are preparing

for a Chinese invasion and democrats are a huge part of it
 Quoting: Jake


the democrats are traitors fair and square.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76678898


Why do you think they want your AR-15's

Its the only weapon that could defend against a foreign invasion.


It is also the gun with the least amount of kills in the USA
 Quoting: Jake


gun shops are selling out of ar15s.
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Mabe Fatman Jones is right they are preparing

for a Chinese invasion and democrats are a huge part of it
 Quoting: Jake


the democrats are traitors fair and square.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76678898


Why do you think they want your AR-15's

Its the only weapon that could defend against a foreign invasion.


It is also the gun with the least amount of kills in the USA
 Quoting: Jake


gun shops are selling out of ar15s.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76678898


Good, but overall guns sales are down 20% since Trump took office
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Is it time yet?
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The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (Cal Fire) notified radio operators that they can no longer operate network repeaters, which make ham radios possible by extending their range, unless they pay significant rental fees for using public land.

“…With constantly changing technological advances, there is no longer the same [emergency] benefit to [the] state as previously provided,” reads the letter Cal Fire sent to operators. “Therefore, the department no longer financially supports ham operators, radios or tenancy.”

The department also apparently claims that to have an rental agreement in place, there’s a $2500 “technical analysis fee” and a “lease administration cost” which ranges from $3000-$5000.

Ironically, Cal Fire also sent a “Wildfire Action Plan” to residents which advises them to have a “communications plan.”


What the FUCK is going on?!?



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 Quoting: WyatteSmith


A LOT of Marxists, Socialists live in Northern Cali.

Coincidence? Perhaps, but not certain
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Mabe Fatman Jones is right they are preparing

for a Chinese invasion and democrats are a huge part of it
 Quoting: Jake


the democrats are traitors fair and square.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76678898


Why do you think they want your AR-15's

Its the only weapon that could defend against a foreign invasion.


It is also the gun with the least amount of kills in the USA
 Quoting: Jake


AR-10s are better.
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i keep thinking about that vid from a few months ago when the swat team carried away a black box object, and jumped into a helicopter in thew middle of LA.. at nighttime.... anyone remember that?
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Mabe Fatman Jones is right they are preparing

for a Chinese invasion and democrats are a huge part of it
 Quoting: Jake


the democrats are traitors fair and square.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76678898


Why do you think they want your AR-15's

Its the only weapon that could defend against a foreign invasion.


It is also the gun with the least amount of kills in the USA
 Quoting: Jake


AR-10s are better.
 Quoting: Weyoun


Yeah I have two AR-10's

Why make a bb hole when you can take the whole leg.
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One group of people use ham radios

the Militia and Preppers
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One group of people use ham radios

the Militia and Preppers
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Foreign and/or Domestic enemies as well may choose to use them.

Makes it harder to pick out the threat among the sea of Ham operators.

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and this weekend is the navy demonstrations and airshow in SF bay....
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Thank you!
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The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (Cal Fire) notified radio operators that they can no longer operate network repeaters, which make ham radios possible by extending their range, unless they pay significant rental fees for using public land.

“…With constantly changing technological advances, there is no longer the same [emergency] benefit to [the] state as previously provided,” reads the letter Cal Fire sent to operators. “Therefore, the department no longer financially supports ham operators, radios or tenancy.”

The department also apparently claims that to have an rental agreement in place, there’s a $2500 “technical analysis fee” and a “lease administration cost” which ranges from $3000-$5000.

Ironically, Cal Fire also sent a “Wildfire Action Plan” to residents which advises them to have a “communications plan.”


What the FUCK is going on?!?



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 Quoting: WyatteSmith


Who would expect anything different from the PRK?

Although this sounds like it is only repeaters on state owned property. Any body with the knowledge can setup their own repeater with a decent antenna and radio.

This still will not prevent connections to repeaters using digital hotspots or Echolink like programs.
Come on and take a free ride.
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Hey man build a mobile repeater powered by a generator.
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At first I wasn't sure what to think. After mulling it over a bit, I'm beginning to think something big may be in the offing. Shutting down HAM radio repeaters is an assault against a part of the country's national security infrastructure imo. I keep wondering why Trump doesn't intervene & force them to stop. MAYBE this is why he has the USMC on standby.

I watched those vids on the fires... fuck all! There is ABSOLUTELY some sabotage goin down. Stay safe out there in commiefornia patriots.
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Original story was here [link to offgridsurvival.com (secure)]


That’s where it first came from, not the stolen one from the jones link
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...


Many Chinese peasants might still live out of surveilance. It's called NWO and it's everywhere.
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Commies working hard to enslave all and kill those they can't. Chicoms are part of NWO for sure, as are those that perpetrated the Ruby Ridge atrocity.
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The herding of americans isn't done by China, but by NWO agents from US!
Thread: CAUGHT ON TAPE: California UNDER ATTACK AGAIN!!!
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I didn't say anything about China. Stop conflating things and muddying the issues. NWO agents report to chicom officers who are high ranking in NWO chainm of command. This is bigger than you think.
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And not nearly as solid, certified, stable or going nearly as well as you think.

This is the moment of truth and not secrecy anymore. What they were trying that is IMPOSSIBLE could only be floated in secret. In the light of day, bullshi* falls crashing and they know this. Thats why they ready brute force, because the only hope they have of forcing their scam against all nature, life, humans and history is a military unity that has never met the light of day yet.

But you are right. For a hundred years they have worked relentlessly to systematically sack the world and ching chang china chong was first on the chopper. The royals resisted and all their priests ran to the palace to defend them!

Then, the royalty changed their mind, sold out their continent, called their top most loyal warrior priests "traitors" and "rebels" (and they were executed like sport) and made the way illegal, so that the ones who didnt make it to the palace, had to make it out of china as fast as they could. (The 20th century kung fu diaspora that brought US a number of arm branded dragons and their students too.)
And Japan
And Germany
And arabia....somewhat, unfinished
Their identity, history, nationality and divinity thrown down.

But America is different than any of those, has been expecting it for the whole time too and like I said about cabal people - none of them really look like better cut either, have you noticed?
Like that old suspense thriller about london satanists "the paladins".....it might slip by you individually, but when they were all together, it was glaring that they were all fkd up or goomers somehow. EU goddess cult "head" is that old bloaty drunk they have to carry-walk to the car, london and ireland have orcs in offices and weird ones of them too. (France you get rewards for being wierd or fkd up so its hard to tell..) But OURS are all fkd up looking and hard to miss hags, schif, schumer, pelosi, feinstein, warren, talib, omar, nadler, strozyk, his hog flake woman, blasey ford, fuming mad brennan....not anybodys idea of "worthy" or "olympian" there. Rejects. Like barry "satan" sotero and on down. Kakistocracy.

So at the summit of their expectation, they are about to resort to "aliens!" because even whats left of gods good world just doesnt want the underworld and its denizens of goomer running things...like always....when they are finally ready for their big day, their shi* is fallling apart and their boat is loaded with dead weight.

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TPTB can pull the plug on phones and internet very easily anytime they need to but ham radio is more of a problem for them. When the SHTF they do not want people to be able to communicate and organize... Take this as a sign that there is not long to go.
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Nailed it! I agree.
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perhaps i read it wrong? it looks like they want the repeaters off public land unless you pay rent, because they no longer have use for it. so either find a source of funding for the rent and fee's or move it to land you own/control. it's a property rights thing, not a shutting down the signal thing.

we gave you free rent because it benefited us, now it doesn't so move or pay.
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TPTB can pull the plug on phones and internet very easily anytime they need to but ham radio is more of a problem for them. When the SHTF they do not want people to be able to communicate and organize... Take this as a sign that there is not long to go.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78073667


And hams have "field days" to practice setting up mobile comms( repeaters etc.)Radio is democratic. Anybody can go up on a mountaintop (high point) with a few batteries and setup a repeater and an antenna.
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China said so.
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Zionist Derp State wolves in Chinese sheep clothing.

It funny you know.. Son of Man having a problem with sons of Ape..

.. it like Spacemen declared war on Cavemen on another planet.

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